[QUOTE=gamefreek76;17734628]Homo sapiens are in the order of primates.[/QUOTE]
But they're not primates. They have origins from each other, but are not the same.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but they theory of evolution would actually say that we didn't evolve from monkeys?
We're our own species.
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;17734595]We evolved BESIDE monkeys, maybe. We did not evolve FROM monkeys. The two terms have completely different implications.[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn17173/dn17173-1_500.jpg[/img]
We share a [b]common ancestor[/b] with monkeys (chimpanzees), we did not evolve from or beside them.
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;17734595]We evolved BESIDE monkeys, maybe. We did not evolve FROM monkeys. The two terms have completely different implications.[/QUOTE]
Not quite. We evolved from creatures that could be classified as monkeys, but are now ancient precursors to the monkeys we have now.
God is logically the only answer for everything :downs:
[QUOTE=nono345;17734505]look at college graduation rates[/QUOTE]
Look at [i]high school[/i] graduation rates.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;17734649]Correct me if I'm wrong, but they theory of evolution would actually say that we didn't evolve from monkeys?
We're our own species.[/QUOTE]
We became our own species through primates.
God created us and all living beings on earth man you must take faith or non-believers will be expelled to the greatest depths of [img]http://imgkk.com/i/t1v_CH.gif[/img]
[QUOTE=Funcoot;17734649]Correct me if I'm wrong, but they theory of evolution would actually say that we didn't evolve from monkeys?
We're our own species.[/QUOTE]
Ardi, anyone?
[QUOTE=furbrain;17734635]Scientists are starting to turn down the [b]theory[/b] of evolution because our cells are just so complex, it just can't change that quickly, the cell structure is just so complex it's impossible.[/QUOTE]
I'd like a source on that.
And everything is complex until you break it down. All natural processes are.
That, and evolution doesn't have to do with cells directly, it's genetics.
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17734645]But they're not primates. They have origins from each other, but are not the same.[/QUOTE]
Primate classifies the entire group.
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17734629]Well, people still like to say that we came from monkeys, yet the theory of evolution clearly says that we came from primates, such as orangutans and apes.[/QUOTE]
Well yes, but the apes we evolved from came from monkeys.
[QUOTE=Figgis Fiddis;17734654][img]http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cms/dn17173/dn17173-1_500.jpg[/img]
We share a [b]common ancestor[/b] with monkeys (chimpanzees), we did not evolve from or beside them.[/QUOTE]
By beside I mean "around the same time". I was attempting to refference the common ancestor theory.
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17734645]But they're not primates. They have origins from each other, but are not the same.[/QUOTE]
Domain: Eukarya
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Superclass: Tetrapoda
Class: Mammalia
Infraclass: Eutheria
[highlight]Order: Primates[/highlight]
Suborder: Haplorrhini
Infraorder: Simiiformes
Parvorder: Catarrhini
Superfamily: Hominoidea
Family: Hominidae
Subfamily: Homininae
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens
Subspecies: H. s. sapiens
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17734687]Well yes, but the apes we evolved from came from monkeys.[/QUOTE]
No. Read the chart.
[QUOTE=furbrain;17734635]Scientists are starting to turn down the [b]theory[/b] of evolution because our cells are just so complex, it just can't change that quickly, the cell structure is just so complex it's impossible.[/QUOTE]
What scientists are you referring to, and why would evolution be discredited because cells are "too complex"
This thread was a bad idea.
Why? Because you have a large group of people, the majority of which know shit all about evolution, and you are allowing them to debate it, which, obviously, is going to turn into a religion vs science [b]shitstorm[/b]
GO SCIENCE!!!
[QUOTE=furbrain;17734635]Scientists are starting to turn down the [b]theory[/b] of evolution because our cells are just so complex, it just can't change that quickly, the cell structure is just so complex it's impossible.[/QUOTE]
Judging by your lack of knowledge as to the definition of 'theory' in scientific context and the fact that even if what you said was true we'd still have to say evolution occurs, just that we don't know how.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;17734721]This thread was a bad idea.
Why? Because you have a large group of people, the majority of which know shit all about evolution, and you are allowing them to debate it, which, obviously, is going to turn into a religion vs science [b]shitstorm[/b]
GO SCIENCE!!![/QUOTE]
There were only two religious based posts, and both were jokes.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17734726]Judging by your lack of knowledge as to the definition of 'theory' in scientific context and the fact that even if what you said was true we'd still have to say evolution occurs, just that we don't know how.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, his name is fitting. Plus, evolution too quick? I didn't know that thousands upon thousands of years was "too quick" for cells to change.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;17734721]This thread was a bad idea.
Why? Because you have a large group of people, the majority of which know shit all about evolution, and you are allowing them to debate it, which, obviously, is going to turn into a religion vs science [b]shitstorm[/b]
GO SCIENCE!!![/QUOTE]
This post was a bad idea.
Why? Because you have a larege group of people, the majority of which know shit all about evolution, and you are allowing them to debate about it without a single mention of religion other than as a joke and then, obviously, some one like you comes along and throws it into the discussion to cause a shitstorm.
Go logic!!!
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;17734717]No. Read the chart.[/QUOTE]
I did read it. It says we evolved from monkeys. Primates and the like are simply a closer relative.
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;17734751]This post was a bad idea.
Why? Because you have a larege group of people, the majority of which know shit all about evolution, and you are allowing them to debate about it without a single mention of religion other than as a joke and then, obviously, some one like you comes along and throws it into the discussion to cause a shitstorm.
Go logic!!![/QUOTE]
:smug:
Breaking news: Most people are dumb as bricks. More at 11.
[QUOTE=Figgis Fiddis;17734573]What do you mean by "become a scientific law"? The theory of evolution is accepted by pretty much all biologists and zoologists.[/QUOTE]
Why would we want it to become a law? A theory is an explanation that has held true so far. A law is just a description of occurrence which have happen without fail so far.
[QUOTE=Strider_07;17734812]Breaking news: Most people are dumb as bricks. More at 11.[/QUOTE]
Pretty old breaking news.
[QUOTE=Figgis Fiddis;17734719]What scientists are you referring to, and why would evolution be discredited because cells are "too complex"[/QUOTE]
He's being an idiot and bringing intelligent design into it.
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[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17734820]Pretty old breaking news.[/QUOTE]
I hope to Odin you realized that was sarcasm.
[QUOTE=Strider_07;17734837]He's being an idiot and bringing intelligent design into it.
[editline]07:25PM[/editline]
I hope to Odin you realized that was sarcasm.[/QUOTE]
What do you take me for, an idiot? Duh.
I would love to have some one clarify what level of evolution we are talking about.
Only fools and satan worshippers believe in evilution. Even Darwins said himself he didn't believe in it.
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;17734886]I would love to have some one clarify what level of evolution we are talking about.[/QUOTE]
There are no "levels of evolution". There is only speciation.
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