[QUOTE=Jacklus;17734916]Only fools and satan worshippers believe in evilution. Even Darwins said himself he didn't believe in it.[/QUOTE]
Please be a joke, please be a joke...
[QUOTE=Jacklus;17734916]Only fools and satan worshippers believe in evilution. Even Darwins said himself he didn't believe in it.[/QUOTE]
yeah when he died his gost went into the future and told glenn beck
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17734925]Please be a joke, please be a joke...[/QUOTE]
He said "evilution"
I'm pretty sure he's joking
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[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17734924]There are no "levels of evolution". There is only speciation.[/QUOTE]
I think he's talking about Macro vs Micro
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17734925]Please be a joke, please be a joke...[/QUOTE]
It is.
And it's obvious as shit.
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[QUOTE=Anubis678;17734934]He said "evilution"
I'm pretty sure he's joking
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I think he's talking about Macro vs Micro[/QUOTE]
No such thing.
Also, relating about Darwin saying against evolution, just because he renounced it, doesn't mean all of his information became void. Whether he believed it or not on his deathbed, he had gathered enough info to strengthen the theory.
Evolution from monkeys is a load of bull. Common if WE evolved from monkeys then why haven't all the others evolved? This is just your avarage Scientoligist stuff. Im christian so i bealive we were created by the hand of god.
Thats my oppinion of course.
[QUOTE=ACupXOfXNoodles;17734963] Common if WE evolved from monkeys then why haven't all the others evolved?[/QUOTE]
Isolation of a group of a species.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;17734934]
I think he's talking about Macro vs Micro[/QUOTE]
The only difference between macroevolution and microevolution is timescale, and both have been observed in the lab and in nature
My bad then. I guess none of us know what the fuck he's talking about
[QUOTE=Anubis678;17734934]
I think he's talking about Macro vs Micro[/QUOTE]
There's no macro vs micro evolution. There's only evolution. Saying there can only be micro evolution is like saying you can't walk a mile by taking one step at a time.
[QUOTE=Jacklus;17735019]There's no macro vs micro evolution. There's only evolution. Saying there can only be micro evolution is like saying you can't walk a mile by taking one step at a time.[/QUOTE]
Goddammit, that's not what I meant.
Nevermind. Fuck it. It's not worth the trouble
snip. I'm tired.
[QUOTE=ACupXOfXNoodles;17734963]Evolution from monkeys is a load of bull. Common if WE evolved from monkeys then why haven't all the others evolved? This is just your avarage Scientoligist stuff. Im christian so i bealive we were created by the hand of god.
Thats my oppinion of course.[/QUOTE]
Evolution is based on necessity. You don't need five eyes and the ability to fly in order to survive, therefore you don't have it. We needed to adapt to a harsh environment, and being that we had no claws or scales, we developed cognitive ability and the instinct to survive. This isn't "your average scientologist stuff", this is proven scientific fact with decades of research and hard evidence behind it.
[QUOTE=Strider_07;17735125]Evolution is based on necessity. You don't need five eyes and the ability to fly in order to survive, therefore you don't have it. We needed to adapt to a harsh environment, and being that we had no claws or scales, we developed cognitive ability and the instinct to survive. This isn't "your average scientologist stuff", this is proven scientific fact with decades of research and hard evidence behind it.[/QUOTE]
I find it funny how we as a race are severaly altering how evolution takes place. Take pandas, for instance. We chopped down the bamboo and the pandas ate too much, and now without our help they cannot survive. It kinda makes me feel powerful to think that humans can end entire races of creatures simply because intelligence has become the superior evolutionary trait.
[QUOTE=Big Bang;17734675]I'd like a source on that.
And everything is complex until you break it down. All natural processes are.
That, and evolution doesn't have to do with cells directly, it's genetics.[/QUOTE]
How do the first cells - assumed to be prokaryotes - exchange genetic when they multiply by binary fission?
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I do believe that life changes and adapts, and that all cells come from previous cells. But the method of adaptation and the means by which life adapts used in evolutionary theory today seems to have some holes (For the above reason).
[QUOTE=furbrain;17734635]Scientists are starting to turn down the [b]theory[/b] of evolution because our cells are just so complex, it just can't change that quickly, the cell structure is just so complex it's impossible.[/QUOTE]
1. That's bullshit. No real scientist turns disregards evolution due to their ignorance.
2. Within a week I could quite easily cause microorganisms to evolve; making an anti-biotic resistant organism by artificial selection. This, is due to the fact that the generation time of bacterium is significantly less than that of a larger organism; thus demonstrating evolution in a short period of time. Relative to the size, the time it takes is reasonable, and surely, if I were to be given sufficient numbers of an animal and an abnormally long life, I could breed a much more resilient beast.
3. Complex and impossible are not one and the same. The components that your computer is made of are extremely complex, yet, do exist; and are not impossible to recreate. In about a week, I could easily create organic macromolecules from inorganic gases that would have been found on early Earth.
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[QUOTE=bord2tears;17735227]How do the first cells - assumed to be prokaryotes - exchange genetic when they multiply by binary fission? [/QUOTE]
You don't seem to understand how binary fission works. There is no exchange of genetics, it's a single cell dividing; during which, on rare occasions mutations could occur. When DNA is being "Processed" it's snipped up, then reassembled; during which, a number of things can happen to change things. In a simple organism, a small change could be drastic in the end.
Also, take a look at a thread I posted in the religion forum; it's a pretty good read I thought: [url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=775390[/url]
People who refuse to believe in evolution are pretty much like the kid that stick their fingers in their ears and yell "LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU" when they don't want to hear something.
Look, I don't mean to be offensive to Anyone, But I'm slowly thinking that god is getting more and more false. What higher being would give his creations "Free Will" To love it, because not giving them free will and making them love it wouldn't be them truly loving him, And then Saying "Well, If you don't love me, Ya burn in hell, and ya know that's for eternity" No one fucking deserves to be tortured for eternity, Its Evil Blackmail.
:Dawkins102:
/rant
[QUOTE=john_pelphre;17734638]If you think something is true, than you believe in it.[/QUOTE]No, you accept it.
Like how you ACCEPT the theory of gravity.
[QUOTE=furbrain;17734635]Scientists are starting to turn down the [b]theory[/b] of evolution because our cells are just so complex, it just can't change that quickly, the cell structure is just so complex it's impossible.[/QUOTE]
Dude, that's bullshit, micro-organisms can change within a few years to a few months. And why highlight theory?
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[QUOTE=610925;17735552]Look, I don't mean to be offensive to Anyone, But I'm slowly thinking that god is getting more and more false. What higher being would give his creations "Free Will" To love it, because not giving them free will and making them love it wouldn't be them truly loving him, And then Saying "Well, If you don't love me, Ya burn in hell, and ya know that's for eternity" No one fucking deserves to be tortured for eternity, Its Evil Blackmail.
:Dawkins102:
/rant[/QUOTE]
I was taunt, that if you accept God, even in Hell you can ascend into heaven, but you have to truly accept him.
Though yeah, I look forward to the day when the only Gods we need are ourselves, probably gonna' be the day we master immortality.
[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;17734568]Though since we're in the same line as monkeys, we're technically still monkeys right now. Sort of in the same way that we're still mammals.[/QUOTE]
We are something called "primates".
:hurr:
[QUOTE=610925;17735552]Look, I don't mean to be offensive to Anyone, But I'm slowly thinking that god is getting more and more false. What higher being would give his creations "Free Will" To love it, because not giving them free will and making them love it wouldn't be them truly loving him, And then Saying "Well, If you don't love me, Ya burn in hell, and ya know that's for eternity" No one fucking deserves to be tortured for eternity, Its Evil Blackmail.
:Dawkins102:
/rant[/QUOTE]
Come on, don't bring religion into this D: This discussion is really going places.
[QUOTE=gReplay;17734518]We don't believe in evoultion because it is silly.
Evolution is better though, you should check it out.[/QUOTE]
My evolution is better than your evolution.
I'm sorry I just had to say that.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;17735757]We are something called "primates".
:hurr:[/QUOTE]
We're both.
On relating to the subject of "How many people believe in evolution"
[url]http://notjustatheory.com/[/url]
Actually everything we knew about evolution is wrong, since we found Ardi, showing that we didn't evolve from a chimp-like animal.
[QUOTE=Ragy;17736354]Actually everything we knew about evolution is wrong, since we found Ardi, showing that we didn't evolve from a chimp-like animal.[/QUOTE]I don't even know where to begin with you
So it's more logical to think that god happily plopped every single species on the planet from the sky ?
Just because you believe in evolution doesn't make you anti-religion, I still believe in god.
[QUOTE=furbrain;17734635]Scientists are starting to turn down the [b]theory[/b] of evolution because our cells are just so complex, it just can't change that quickly, the cell structure is just so complex it's impossible.[/QUOTE]
Your name is so fitting with that statement.
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