• Evolution: How many people really belive it?
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[QUOTE=stone555;17734509]You don't 'believe' in facts. :downs:[/QUOTE] Just what I was thinking. "Do you believe in evolution?" is like asking, "Do you believe in 2+2 = 4?"
[QUOTE=b4nny;17737740]Just what I was thinking. "Do you believe in evolution?" is like asking, "Do you believe in 2+2 = 4?"[/QUOTE] well not really Comparing a scientific [B]theory[/B] (though I do believe strongly in it, it is after all only a theory) to a mathematical equation doesn't work because math isn't science
[QUOTE=KaIibos;17737781]well not really Comparing a scientific [B]theory[/B] (though I do believe strongly in it, it is after all only a theory) to a mathematical equation doesn't work because math isn't science[/QUOTE] Theory doesn't mean what you think it does: [quote]S: (n) theory (a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena) "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory" S: (n) hypothesis, possibility, theory (a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified but that if true would explain certain facts or phenomena) "a scientific hypothesis that survives experimental testing becomes a scientific theory"; "he proposed a fresh theory of alkalis that later was accepted in chemical practices" S: (n) theory (a belief that can guide behavior) "the architect has a theory that more is less"; "they killed him on the theory that dead men tell no tales"[/quote] In science, a theory is the upper one.
[QUOTE=stone555;17734509]You don't 'believe' in facts. :downs:[/QUOTE] Facts aren't always true:downs:
[QUOTE=rapperkid04;17737246]Well basically as I said, I believe that evolution is real and I accept it as a logical scientific theory. I was originally posting simply to say that you guys shouldn't just blindly defend it without looking at both sides of the spectrum. [B]Yes it's a 100% logical theory in my opinion but someone else might think it sounds insane.[/B] I'm not arguing over the truth value of evolution, I'm arguing over the blind defenders of evolution.[/QUOTE] That doesn't matter. All that matters is iff you can find evidence that supports your theory.
I believe in the theory of evolution becuase it makes a lot more sense than creationism. I don't believe that there is man in "heaven" watching over us who majicked up a son and put him on earth. There probably was a man called jesus and all of his "miracles" could be explained. I think that you could have evolutoion and God together, if you believed in both. Like evolution made the world what it is now and then God and Jesus just look after the people in it. Or something like that.
[QUOTE=Von Kluth;17737593]God only exist in the mind of the people who believe in him/her. It/he/she didn't create the universe, nor human beings. The point of a God is so that people should have something to rely on. A place to go to when you need help etc. The Bible is a guide for life. Again, to help you out. IT'S NOT A BOOK OF FACTS.[/QUOTE] This is an idiotic point. Do you stone disobedient kids? Do you kill those who cheat on their wives? You can't just nit pick what parts of it you want to follow and say that you listen to the bible.
It's very self-explanatory and outstandingly simple and logical. Especially when you look at the structures of various animals and realise the similarities and differences, observing how one particular animal has adapted to survive. You have to be extremely feeble and simple minded to disregard evolution entirely, or even slightly for that matter.
Not everyone believes in... [b]EVOLUTION?![/b] [IMG]http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss126/Thomas4555/nooooooxc9.gif[/IMG]
We didn't evolve from monkeys. Monkeys and humans both evolved from a common ancestor that doesn't exist anymore. [editline]11:40AM[/editline] Also how ignorant are you to not have known this?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17738472]This is an idiotic point. Do you stone disobedient kids? Do you kill those who cheat on their wives? You can't just nit pick what parts of it you want to follow and say that you listen to the bible.[/QUOTE] What I'm saying is that the Bible has alot of smart stuff in it. It's not all about slaves, killing cheating wives etc. You have to look att the bible through the eyes of today. Slaves we're perhaps alot more common at the time of the bible?
[QUOTE=Von Kluth;17739420]What I'm saying is that the Bible has alot of smart stuff in it. It's not all about slaves, killing cheating wives etc. [/QUOTE] That doesn't mean the rest of the shit in the Bible is okay.
[QUOTE=Von Kluth;17739420]What I'm saying is that the Bible has alot of smart stuff in it. It's not all about slaves, killing cheating wives etc. You have to look att the bible through the eyes of today. Slaves we're perhaps alot more common at the time of the bible?[/QUOTE] So, basically, you're just bullshitting because you can't reconcile a book. Hey, answer me this, if God is perfect, his word is eternally correct right? Right, ok, so, how come those are wrong now...? If you nitpick the bible until you get the points that apply to todays world, you're leaving about 1/15th of the bible intact. Is homosexuality wrong? To you? Social freedoms? What about the bible is right? Have you read the damn thing? even as a metaphor, it's a terrible guide.
Listen now. I'm not an atheist. In my opinion, God is in the eye of the perciever. He/she exist only for the people that want him/her to do so. For me, there's no god. But for some people there is. I've believed in God, but realized that I couldn't find any comfort in him/her/it. With that said, I do see how [B]SOME[/B] people can find comfort in believing in a higher power. As I said, It's the people taking the Bible litterary that have got It all wrong. I'm with you guys. But the Bible also tells stories of sharing and forgiving. Couldn't todays world need a little more of that? What was this discussion about again?
Yes but those fundamentalist Christians are totally the opposite of 'sharing and forgiving'.
[QUOTE=angelangel;17740081]Yes but those fundamentalist Christians are totally the opposite of 'sharing and forgiving'.[/QUOTE] Maybe in America, but the ones in Sweden are quite alright. Most of the time. Sometimes. [B]EDIT[/B] One time. [B]EDIT 2[/B] Ned Flanders. He's a good guy.
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Evolution is not a theory, its a fact of life so deal with it.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;17740512]Evolution is not a theory, its a fact of life so deal with it.[/QUOTE] Nothing in science is absolute. Evolution is the most widely accepted theory, which is why it is taught in most schools.
I think everybody should check out Ardipithecus ramidus in greater detail: [url]http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/326/5949/64/DC2[/url]
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;17739626]So, basically, you're just bullshitting because you can't reconcile a book. Hey, answer me this, if God is perfect, his word is eternally correct right? Right, ok, so, how come those are wrong now...?[/QUOTE] Who said they were, ha ha ha haha!
[QUOTE=Evilan;17740533]Nothing in science is absolute. Evolution is the most widely accepted theory, which is why it is taught in most schools.[/QUOTE] There are somethings that are facts, and with the recent findings in fossils/Genetics Evolution is one of them.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;17740512]Evolution is not a theory, its a fact of life so deal with it.[/QUOTE] Umm yes it is. I don't think you know what a scientific theory is.
Well it used to be a fact that the world was flat, and that the Antique statues never had been painted. Science has, through history, been wrong most of the time. But the theory of evolution... well, nothing else seems as logical. Not by far.
[QUOTE=CanibalMonke;17734528]Evolution, with the modern technology, is becoming harder and harder to NOT believe.[/QUOTE] Yeah, listen to the thing we evolved from!
[QUOTE=Von Kluth;17740711]Well it used to be a fact that the world was flat, and that the Antique statues never had been painted.[/QUOTE] That was because no one actually did any research, they just assumed. The reason science is wrong it because it changes all the time when we find new evidence. Religion have been wrong since it first came to be, there just aren't anyone who accepts it.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;17734566]You can be religious and believe in evolution! It's called not being ignorant.[/QUOTE] Being religious [i]is[/i] ignorant. There is no logically consistent argument for the existence of God. [editline]04:08PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Von Kluth;17739420]What I'm saying is that the Bible has alot of smart stuff in it. It's not all about slaves, killing cheating wives etc. You have to look att the bible through the eyes of today. Slaves we're perhaps alot more common at the time of the bible?[/QUOTE] Yes, and therefore you should conclude that the bible is obsolete.
[QUOTE=shinobiboy77;17734578]i'm a christian and i believe in evolution, got a problem?[/QUOTE] That kind of contradicts your believes but whatever.
I know most people hate Richard Dawkins, but his new book is quite good. [img]http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c114612/images/2009/greatest-show-ad-web462.jpg[/img] You should read it.
[QUOTE=Hunterbrute;17740862]I know most people hate Richard Dawkins, but his new book is quite good. [img]http://cdn.cloudfiles.mosso.com/c114612/images/2009/greatest-show-ad-web462.jpg[/img] You should read it.[/QUOTE] The guy who told some Creationist's to turn of the camera because he couldn't answer their questions?
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