[QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;15922235]I think a lot of the reason some people are anarchists is testosterone and paranoia. They see the reasonable amount of corruption in government, haven't gotten over their teen angst yet, and need to rage and "fight the man" and rebel even if what they want doesn't make a bit of sense. What they should really fight for if they believe in complete change is temporary anarchy where they can establish what ever new government they believe in (most likely pure democracy), because no government is stupid.[/QUOTE]
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Full of testosterone and teenage angst.
Yeah well you see they were like from a hundred years ago when anarchy was fresh and groovy and everyone was doing LSD.
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[QUOTE=Kamikaze;15921808]Anarchy is not synonymous with chaos.[/QUOTE]
OK then let's look at the only anarchist state in existence and therefore the only example we have outside you and your cohorts' addled brains OH LOOK CHAOS night night.
[QUOTE=The_anarchist;15915637][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anarchist_communities[/url]
it explains all
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Notice how those are all small communities and/or relatively undeveloped?
How would an anarchist state handle the National Grid? Or the internet? Or an NHS?
Theres no specific point of anarchy, this question is just plain stupid
[QUOTE=Buckpick;15468651]It's because people that want anarchy disagree with the whole idea of there being a united society, which is what human civilisation is built upon.[/QUOTE]
You are so wrong it hurts.
Anarchy is the total absence of government or any hierarchical control. Anarchism is a political theory which aims to create a society within which individuals freely co-operate together as equals.
[quote=L. Susan Brown]
"While the popular understanding of anarchism is of a violent, anti-State movement, anarchism is a much more subtle and nuanced tradition then a simple opposition to government power. Anarchists oppose the idea that power and domination are necessary for society, and instead advocate more co-operative, anti-hierarchical forms of social, political and economic organisation." [The Politics of Individualism, p. 106][/quote]
No government is perfect
We need governemnt to be stable.
fuck tha police comin' straight from tha' underground
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or should i say fuck tha' prez comin' straight from tha' underground
[QUOTE=SM0K3 B4N4N4;15922235]I think a lot of the reason some people are anarchists is testosterone and paranoia. They see the reasonable amount of corruption in government, haven't gotten over their teen angst yet, and need to rage and "fight the man" and rebel even if what they want doesn't make a bit of sense. What they should really fight for if they believe in complete change is temporary anarchy where they can establish what ever new government they believe in (most likely pure democracy), because no government is stupid.[/QUOTE]
hurr fucking durr. Read the quote below because I'm too lazy to type out my own paragraph:
[quote=Stuart Christie]
"Anarchism is a movement for human freedom. It is concrete, democratic and egalitarian . . . Anarchism began -- and remains -- a direct challenge by the underprivileged to their oppression and exploitation. It opposes both the insidious growth of state power and the pernicious ethos of possessive individualism, which, together or separately, ultimately serve only the interests of the few at the expense of the rest.
"Anarchism is both a theory and practice of life. Philosophically, it aims for the maximum accord between the individual, society and nature. Practically, it aims for us to organise and live our lives in such a way as to make politicians, governments, states and their officials superfluous. In an anarchist society, mutually respectful sovereign individuals would be organised in non-coercive relationships within naturally defined communities in which the means of production and distribution are held in common.
"Anarchists are not dreamers obsessed with abstract principles and theoretical constructs . . . Anarchists are well aware that a perfect society cannot be won tomorrow. Indeed, the struggle lasts forever! However, it is the vision that provides the spur to struggle against things as they are, and for things that might be . . .
"Ultimately, only struggle determines outcome, and progress towards a more meaningful community must begin with the will to resist every form of injustice. In general terms, this means challenging all exploitation and defying the legitimacy of all coercive authority. If anarchists have one article of unshakeable faith, it is that, once the habit of deferring to politicians or ideologues is lost, and that of resistance to domination and exploitation acquired, then ordinary people have a capacity to organise every aspect of their lives in their own interests, anywhere and at any time, both freely and fairly.
"Anarchists do not stand aside from popular struggle, nor do they attempt to dominate it. They seek to contribute practically whatever they can, and also to assist within it the highest possible levels of both individual self-development and of group solidarity. It is possible to recognise anarchist ideas concerning voluntary relationships, egalitarian participation in decision-making processes, mutual aid and a related critique of all forms of domination in philosophical, social and revolutionary movements in all times and places." [My Granny made me an Anarchist, pp. 162-3] [/quote]
[QUOTE=QuikSilvers;15928174]hurr fucking durr. Read the quote below because I'm too lazy to type out my own paragraph:[/QUOTE]
tl;dr
anarchism is dumb
Anarchy is stupid. Eco-terrorism and communism is where it's at.
[QUOTE=Dank Dave;15928570]tl;dr
anarchism is dumb[/QUOTE]
Lol look at me I can't argue with reason and logic so I'll use insults.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15928675]lol look at me I can't argue.[/QUOTE]
lol look at me i can't discern between someone stating an argument and stating an opinion
[QUOTE=Medical Dust;15928616]Anarchy is stupid. Eco-terrorism and communism is where it's at.[/QUOTE]
Lol, collectivist.
Every man for himself.
If I want to steal your shit I can and get away with it unless you do something about it.
Bitch.
[QUOTE=Dank Dave;15928690]lol look at me i can't discern between someone stating an argument and stating an opinion[/QUOTE]
Purple is the most retarded color there is.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15928675]Lol look at me I can't argue with reason and logic so I'll use insults.[/QUOTE]
You're a libertarian. Why do you care what people say about anarchism?
[QUOTE=Conscript;15928723]You're a libertarian. Why do you care what people say about anarchism?[/QUOTE]
Call my crazy but lack of proper reasoning and argumentation irks me.
Hell, if a libertarian is arguing against communism poorly I'll argue against him. If you can't argue well, get off my side.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15928721]Purple is the most retarded color there is.[/QUOTE]
my brother was born with purple skin :saddowns:
[QUOTE=Dank Dave;15928742]my brother was born with purple skin :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
Shit dude I'm sorry I didn't know.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15928731]Call my crazy but lack of proper reasoning and argumentation irks me.[/QUOTE]
you can't even tell the difference between an argument and someone stating an opinion, who are you to talk about the way other people structure their arguments and reason?
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[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15928753]Shit dude I'm sorry I didn't know.[/QUOTE]
all is forgiven johnny
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:)
[QUOTE=Dank Dave;15928759]you can't even tell the difference between an argument and someone stating an opinion, who are you to talk about the way other people structure their arguments and reason?[/QUOTE]
You weren't stating an opinion, you were pretending as though the article he quoted brought up idiotic points. You didn't say, "I think anarchism is dumb," you quoted his post and said, "tl;dr anarchism is dumb."
Good try, though.
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[QUOTE=Dank Dave;15928759]all is forgiven johnny
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:)[/QUOTE]
Thanks babe
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15928783]You weren't stating an opinion, you were pretending as though the article he quoted brought up idiotic points. You didn't say, "I think anarchism is dumb," you quoted his post and said, "tl;dr anarchism is dumb."
Good try, though.
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Thanks babe[/QUOTE]
if that's what you took out of my comment, then there's no helping you
[QUOTE=Dank Dave;15928803]if that's what you took out of my comment, then there's no helping you[/QUOTE]
I don't see a whole lot of other shades of meaning you could have jam packed into 3 words and an abbreviation. Mind enlightening me?
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15928721]Purple is the most retarded color there is.[/QUOTE]
Excuse me sir, but purple is fucking amazing.
We're thinking about this way more than the people who actually support it. Stoners.
[QUOTE=Alcyonues;15928858]Excuse me sir, but purple is fucking amazing.[/QUOTE]
You must be retarded. Only retarded people like that color. I know it's retarded because you like it, and you are retarded, because you like purple, which is a retarded color.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15928831]I don't see a whole lot of other shades of meaning you could have jam packed into 3 words and an abbreviation. Mind enlightening me?[/QUOTE]
i already have. i was using those three words and one abbreviation to convey my opinion on anarchy
[QUOTE=Dank Dave;15928989]i already have. i was using those three words and one abbreviation to convey my opinion on anarchy[/QUOTE]
By pretending an explanation of it was dumb.
There is no point to anarchy. That is the point of anarchy, to have no point
:pcgaming:
The point of anarchy is to rebuild. People will form groups and make their own governments and only the best one will survive.
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