What's the Point of Anarchy? - General

[QUOTE=thisispain;15937007]Don't be a snot-nose.[/QUOTE] Don't be a Jew.

[QUOTE=thisispain;15937007]Don't be a snot-nose.[/QUOTE] My nose is clean thank you.

[QUOTE=Lostangeles4;15936859]That's basically what a libertarian is, which is what I am. It's very close to what the founding fathers of the United States originally intended the country to be like. Except with taxes.[/QUOTE] Yup, there's just two forms of libertarism, the one with a government and the one without. Which is why I explicitly said "minarchist". [QUOTE=Lankist;15936854]You've never considered WHY it's never been tried in a highly developed country? That it could be highly developed countries that descend into anarchy stop being highly developed countries.[/QUOTE] I never said anything to the contrary. It's just pointless discussing over the consequences of anarchy when we have no clue what they would be. What you said is one (and the more likely) possibility.

[QUOTE=DrDaxxy;15937231]Yup, there's just two forms of libertarism, the one with a government and the one without. Which is why I explicitly said "minarchist". [/QUOTE] Right, I prefer the one with the government, because it's just too far fetched without the government. It would be great and all, but it's pretty much impossible.

Complete freedom to do anything you want in life

[QUOTE=DrDaxxy;15937231]Yup, there's just two forms of libertarism, the one with a government and the one without.[/QUOTE] There is no form of libertarianism without government. That's like saying there's two forms of democrats, the kind with abortion and the kind without. If you're against abortion, you're a Republican. Or one of those other parties that nobody gives a shit about. If you're against government, you are an anarchist. Not a Libertarian. [editline]05:22AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Super_Poo;15937380]Complete freedom to do anything you want in life[/QUOTE] Like being raped. [editline]05:22AM[/editline] Repeatedly. [editline]05:24AM[/editline] Also: Somalia Rwanda Congo Those places are totally fun and free and you have vast opportunities like being raped by warlords OR being raped by guerrillas. [editline]05:25AM[/editline] If you're lucky like so many women in the Congo are, you may even get the chance to be raped by a U.N. Peacekeeper who is protected by diplomatic immunity! [editline]05:27AM[/editline] Anarchy is so fun and free especially if you like rape.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15937401]There is no form of libertarianism without government. That's like saying there's two forms of democrats, the kind with abortion and the kind without. If you're against abortion, you're a Republican. Or one of those other parties that nobody gives a shit about. If you're against government, you are an anarchist. Not a Libertarian. [editline]05:22AM[/editline] Like being raped. [editline]05:22AM[/editline] Repeatedly. [editline]05:24AM[/editline] Also: Somalia Rwanda Congo Those places are totally fun and free and you have vast opportunities like being raped by warlords OR being raped by guerrillas. [editline]05:25AM[/editline] If you're lucky like so many women in the Congo are, you may even get the chance to be raped by a U.N. Peacekeeper who is protected by diplomatic immunity! [editline]05:27AM[/editline] Anarchy is so fun and free especially if you like rape.[/QUOTE] Don't forget murder as well.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15937401]There is no form of libertarianism without government. That's like saying there's two forms of democrats, the kind with abortion and the kind without. If you're against abortion, you're a Republican. Or one of those other parties that nobody gives a shit about. If you're against government, you are an anarchist. Not a Libertarian. [editline]05:22AM[/editline] Like being raped. [editline]05:22AM[/editline] Repeatedly. [editline]05:24AM[/editline] Also: Somalia Rwanda Congo Those places are totally fun and free and you have vast opportunities like being raped by warlords OR being raped by guerrillas. [editline]05:25AM[/editline] If you're lucky like so many women in the Congo are, you may even get the chance to be raped by a U.N. Peacekeeper who is protected by diplomatic immunity! [editline]05:27AM[/editline] Anarchy is so fun and free especially if you like rape.[/QUOTE] Not saying it was fun OR fair. They've got the freedom to do what THEY want.

Anarchy does not work anyway. Anarchy ALWAYS lads to dictatorship. Always.

[QUOTE=Jet-fly;15938102]Anarchy does not work anyway. Anarchy ALWAYS lads to dictatorship. Always.[/QUOTE] What? [b]What?[/b]

[QUOTE=thisispain;15937007]Don't be a snot-nose.[/QUOTE] sex in the butt WHAT WHO SAID THAT WHAT YOU LIKE IT WHAT?!

[QUOTE=Jet-fly;15938102]Anarchy does not work anyway. Anarchy ALWAYS lads to dictatorship. Always.[/QUOTE] Someone who didn't pay attention in history class, right here folks.

[b]Burn it all down...[/b]

[QUOTE=Lostangeles4;15936903]BAAAAAWWWW it's not my fault you're an ass hole, your mother should've beat you more.[/QUOTE] Please stop posting.

Total freedom to kill and control. You fuckers dont get it. Anarchy will just fuck you up. No doctors, no education, noone to protect you. Your fucked. I wonder what all the people with guns will do? Fuck you up and take all your shit. You know that fancy house you got there? Gone, Looters will take everything, you will be killed and someone will move right in, only to be killed later. Where are you gonna get your food living in suburbia? All the farmers will keep there own shit with no currency to sell it with. Anarchy is just a bad idea.

[QUOTE=Squeaken;15939155]Total freedom to kill and control. You fuckers dont get it. Anarchy will just fuck you up. No doctors, no education, noone to protect you. Your fucked. I wonder what all the people with guns will do? Fuck you up and take all your shit. You know that fancy house you got there? Gone, Looters will take everything, you will be killed and someone will move right in, only to be killed later. Where are you gonna get your food living in suburbia? All the farmers will keep there own shit with no currency to sell it with. Anarchy is just a bad idea.[/QUOTE] yeah because every post in this thread other than the op and one or two odd posts said exactly what you just said 'we don't get it' yeah...

I've actually had the same opinion on Anarchy as most people here, and when I told my now anarchist former friends this they'd say "You don't understand." lol? Off Topic: Why does this thread yield a "Body shapers" ad? "YES, ANARCHY AND LOOKING GREAT FOR THAT RAPE THAT WILL FOLLOW."

[QUOTE=Squeaken;15939155]Total freedom to kill and control. You fuckers dont get it. Anarchy will just fuck you up. No doctors, no education, noone to protect you. Your fucked. I wonder what all the people with guns will do? Fuck you up and take all your shit. You know that fancy house you got there? Gone, Looters will take everything, you will be killed and someone will move right in, only to be killed later. Where are you gonna get your food living in suburbia? All the farmers will keep there own shit with no currency to sell it with. Anarchy is just a bad idea.[/QUOTE] You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, but that goes for about 90% of the people who posted in this thread. It's a fucking waste of time even typing this out, I'm going to get shot down with flames and illogical "arguments".

[QUOTE=QuikSilvers;15939297]You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, but that goes for about 90% of the people who posted in this thread. It's a fucking waste of time even typing this out, I'm going to get shot down with flames and illogical "arguments".[/QUOTE] So I guess the majority of the people in this thread [i]have[/i] to be idiots and don't know [i]anything[/i] about Anarchy just because their opinion about Anarchy differs from yours. Makes sense, since your opinions are more valuable than any other person's.

In my opinion, note OPINION, anarchy has the potential to work, should the moral laws effective in our minds be followed. I.e. don't rape, don't kill, basically the do unto others stuff. But this is an ideallistic notion. Most likely there will be at least several "I want it all" dicks out there, so unless we have some way to police those dicks I'm not sure how it could work. But then I suppose the policing of said dicks would be leading us right back to structured government. Open to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.

[QUOTE=kaskade700;15468633]What's the point of capitalism?[/QUOTE] You imbecille. Anarchy in theory is the best governing system.

[QUOTE=Black Milano;15941801]You imbecille. Anarchy in theory is the best governing system.[/QUOTE] Lets argue the way you argue! ----- You imbecile. A republic in theory is the best governing system. ----- Feel any better yet?

[QUOTE=Super_Poo;15937380]Complete freedom to do anything you want in life[/QUOTE] Complete freedom isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[QUOTE=lmaoboat;15942165]Complete freedom isn't all it's cracked up to be.[/QUOTE] Complete freedom tends to fuck shit up pretty well. People are never going to be happy. Communism would seem like the best option, if someone could actually get it to work, which will not happen. Capitalism has it's pros and cons too. So do all forms of rule. In short, anarchy would cause absoloute fucking chaos if it were brought about in a large scale. And the point of Anarchy? The point is simple enough, but as to why people could seriously want anarchy considering the potential long term consequences, no idea. And i posted that without reading the last few pages, before i get flamed. [editline]07:46PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Black Milano;15941801]You imbecille. Anarchy in theory is the best governing system.[/QUOTE] Erm, what?

[QUOTE=HK-100;15936871]Cool kids go Agorism.[/QUOTE] Cooler kids go anarcho-capitalist. [QUOTE=Lankist;15937401]There is no form of libertarianism without government. That's like saying there's two forms of democrats, the kind with abortion and the kind without. If you're against abortion, you're a Republican. Or one of those other parties that nobody gives a shit about. If you're against government, you are an anarchist. Not a Libertarian.[/QUOTE] Methinks he's talking about libertarianism as a political philosophy, not in the sense of the party. "Libertarians embrace viewpoints across that spectrum ranging from pro-property to anti-property, from minimal government to openly anarchist."

[QUOTE=Lostangeles4;15936859]That's basically what a libertarian is, which is what I am. It's very close to what the founding fathers of the United States originally intended the country to be like. Except with taxes.[/QUOTE] no. just no.

[QUOTE=limulus54;15944404]no. just no.[/QUOTE] Yes? That's precisely what the Founding Fathers intended.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15943746]Cooler kids go anarcho-capitalist. Methinks he's talking about libertarianism as a political philosophy, not in the sense of the party. "Libertarians embrace viewpoints across that spectrum ranging from pro-property to anti-property, from minimal government to openly anarchist."[/QUOTE] Not the party. I've already had this conversation with the other dude. A: That's Wikipedia. B: The entire concept of Libertarianism revolves around individual liberty through minimal government. Anybody with half of a fucking brain realizes you don't have any liberty with no government to punish rights violations. It's like the thing with Agnostics and Atheists. Agnostics don't exist and pseudo-anarchist Libertarians don't exist. There's a discernible line at which one crosses from Libertarianism and Theism into Anarchy and Atheism. When it comes to the prior, that line is, tada, Anarchy. If you think Anarchy is a good idea, you aren't a Libertarian, you are an Anarchist. That's why there's a separate word for them. Because they're stupid and nobody wants them bundled together with another philosophy. C: It's like calling a cat a dog because they both have tails. [editline]03:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=limulus54;15944404]no. just no.[/QUOTE] Who here has read the Constitution. [editline]03:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Super_Poo;15937815]Not saying it was fun OR fair. They've got the freedom to do what THEY want.[/QUOTE] Here's a tip, it isn't freedom and rights if there is nothing to ensure the protection of those rights. You call it complete freedom, but I don't call being sold as a sex slave by a warlord in northern Africa "freedom." At what point are you going to realize it is not only the government that can violate rights and prevent freedoms? People can do it too. The warlords are miniature totalitarian regimes. The roaming guerrillas are tiny little Nazi war machines. The only way to ensure freedom is to strike a balance between lawfulness and liberty, otherwise freedom doesn't exist. You can't call Anarchy freedom. It just isn't. Anarchy is just anarchy. Anything can happen. There is no assurance that you aren't going to be raped or murdered by any one of the people living under that anarchy. That isn't freedom.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15944430]Yes? That's precisely what the Founding Fathers intended.[/QUOTE] I really don't see how you can say this with any degree of certainty. but yes, In some ways it is like how I think it was intended, but in other ways I think libertarianism is very far off from that.

[QUOTE=limulus54;15944729]I really don't see how you can say this with any degree of certainty. but yes, In some ways it is like how I think it was intended, but in other ways I think libertarianism is very far off from that.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lankist;15944583]Who here has read the Constitution.[/QUOTE] .