What's the Point of Anarchy? - General

ah, so you have the correct interpretation of the constitution simply because you say so? this entire argument is subject to opinion, and because of that, no one here can ever be completely correct.

[QUOTE=limulus54;15944775]ah, so you have the correct interpretation of the constitution simply because you say so? this entire argument is subject to opinion, and because of that, no one here can ever be completely correct.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Lankist;15944583]Who here has read the Constitution.[/QUOTE] That was the question. I didn't ask you to say something completely irrelevant. Have you read the Constitution?

[QUOTE=limulus54;15944775]ah, so you have the correct interpretation of the constitution simply because you say so? this entire argument is subject to opinion, and because of that, no one here can ever be completely correct.[/QUOTE] The Constitution isn't some mystically-worded giant metaphor that you have to tease meaning out of.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15944807]The Constitution isn't some mystically-worded giant metaphor that you have to tease meaning out of.[/QUOTE] It's very specific in its wording and diction. The only thing people seem to think is up to interpretation in the Constitution is whether or not a comma is meant to separate two ideas of if Jefferson was just a fuckup writer who fucked up once and only once in this very long document.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;15944807]The Constitution isn't some mystically-worded giant metaphor that you have to tease meaning out of.[/QUOTE] no, but things change, and parts of it will no longer be applicable, or just applicable in certain ways, and how that is decided is a matter of opinion. and to answer lankist, yes, it has been a while though.

There is no point to anarchy, it's just something for stupid little 14-year-olds to advocate because they think it makes them look cool, and because they're too stupid to figure out that anarchy = no more Green Day.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;15944882]There is no point to anarchy, it's just something for stupid little 14-year-olds to advocate because they think it makes them look cool, and because they're too stupid to figure out that anarchy = no more Green Day.[/QUOTE] Argumentum ad they're all angsty teenagersum. I knew this would come in handy.

[QUOTE=limulus54;15944869]no, but things change, and parts of it will no longer be applicable, or just applicable in certain ways, and how that is decided is a matter of opinion.[/QUOTE] Yes because these men who fought a war for years, saw decades of their nation progressing and wrote the Constitution specifically to be a universal, long-lasting supreme law of the land to replace the Articles of Confederation. They had no fucking foresight. I don't see anything about how much you can sell a donkey for in the fucking Constitution. What I see is a very long list of shit the government CAN'T do. If it's no longer applicable, so be it! That doesn't mean we just hand that power over to the government. So no troops have been quartered in your house, does that mean you think the government should repeal the 3rd Amendment? Who cares if they're unlikely to use that power, the government SHOULD NOT be able to requisition your home and property for themselves under any circumstances. Speaking of shit you didn't read. Sure you read the Constitution "a while ago." Now, did you read the Articles of Confederation?

did I ever say that I thought the whole thing was possibly n/a or open to interpretation? did I ever say I thought the 3rd was useless? did I ever list an example at all? no. your second paragraph is pointless as a response to my argument. also, although I might agree with you, your last sentence is just an example of what I said earlier. we are arguing over opinion and interpretation. there will be no real resolution to this argument.

That's not what I asked you. Have you read the Articles of Confederation? You said: [QUOTE=limulus54;15944869]no, but things change, and parts of it will no longer be applicable, or just applicable in certain ways, and how that is decided is a matter of opinion.[/QUOTE] Implying the Founding Fathers were hacks with no foresight, and that the Constitution had no foresight. I want to make sure you know your fucking history before I justify your saying stupid fucking shit like that with a legitimate response.

The point of anarchy is the lack of order.

Also, when you say "applicable," you don't seem to realize that the Constitution is a glorified list of shit the government can't do. Things like that don't just stop being applicable.

I don't care what you asked me, I still get to respond to what you said, whether I answer question or not. you seem to completely ignore what I say, instead asking if I have read something. the answer; yes I have read it, but I suspect somehow that you were expecting me to say "no" and use that to completely ignore what I say.

Then describe what made the Articles fail, and subsequently spawned the Constitution.

this is now so far off from my original argument, and it feels alot like you're avoiding it. you base things so heavily on your opinion that I can't possibly argue, and I just will not continue with this.

[QUOTE=limulus54;15945543]this is now so far off from my original argument, and it feels alot like you're avoiding it. you base things so heavily on your opinion that I can't possibly argue, and I just will not continue with this.[/QUOTE] You're either intoxicated or terrible at arguing.

[QUOTE=limulus54;15945543]this is now so far off from my original argument, and it feels alot like you're avoiding it. you base things so heavily on your opinion that I can't possibly argue, and I just will not continue with this.[/QUOTE] You say: The Constitution is losing its value in the modern world. I say: Do you know Constitutional history. It is a very simple premise. You clearly don't realize that the Constitution was written specifically to BE applicable in all circumstances, including modern day, and had a very great deal of foresight. It doesn't account for technology, but it does account for corruption. Something you do not seem to understand.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15936469]Somalia.[/QUOTE] Except Somalia has a government. A really shitty government.

[QUOTE=Kamikaze;15946777]Except Somalia has a government. A really shitty government.[/QUOTE] That nobody abides by and respects. That doesn't have or enforce any legitimate laws or utilize a legitimate justice system. In essence, the Somalian government is the Tooth Fairy.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15946806]That nobody abides by and respects. That doesn't have or enforce any legitimate laws or utilize a legitimate justice system. In essence, the Somalian government is the Tooth Fairy.[/QUOTE] But, it has a government.

A goverment has to govern to be a goverment.

[QUOTE=Kamikaze;15946830]But, it has a government.[/QUOTE] And the tooth fairy has a name [editline]06:12PM[/editline] (It's Stephen)

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Anarchy is stupid, but else it can do so you can do whatever you want! (i think its stupid)

[QUOTE=QuikSilvers;15939297]You don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about, but that goes for about 90% of the people who posted in this thread. It's a fucking waste of time even typing this out, I'm going to get shot down with flames and illogical "arguments".[/QUOTE] Do you think anarchy will be all sunshine and flowers? Do you really think everyone will just accept it? Take a look at countrys without a stong government and tell me how well they are doing.

I'd be quite happy to live in a state of anarchy. Reason being, I'd much like to live free and fulfilled; short as my life may be in an anarchy I'd like to live it instead of just being a faceless, capitalistic drone, working 9-5 for food and living space. Call me Mr. Chaotic Neutral. I'd much rather die a free man, doing what I wanted when I wanted, than live a long unfulfilled life suppressed by a government that hardly cares for the people at all.

The point of it is for people to pretend they are cool.

[QUOTE=Wafflemaster;16044001]The point of it is for people to pretend they are cool.[/QUOTE] Naw, it's so people can put on their Guy Fawkes mask and pretend to be V.

Martial law :smug:

[QUOTE=Sigmann;16053465]Martial law :smug:[/QUOTE] :smugdog: Edit: Wait, they're looking at each other too.