What's the Point of Anarchy? - General

[QUOTE=Lankist;15469575]That isn't anarchy. Anarchy is a complete LACK of government. So much for being the only one who understands anarchy![/QUOTE] [B]ideal[/B] anarchy. And besides, any idea can be interpreted as long as you hold on the some aspect of it. But no, what I said is not real anarchy, I even said that I wouldn't want to live in true anarchy. Nice try.

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;15469665][B]ideal[/B] anarchy. And besides, any idea can be interpreted as long as you hold on the some aspect of it. But no, what I said is not real anarchy, I even said that I wouldn't want to live in true anarchy. Nice try.[/QUOTE] What you described wasn't anarchy, it was extremist, minimalist government. [editline]07:32PM[/editline] In which case, who decided what things the government enforces? [editline]07:33PM[/editline] And who ensures that never changes?

[QUOTE=Lankist;15469649]Uhh, there are no rights in anarchy. And you can hurt anyone you want now, only you're going to get hurt back.[/QUOTE] So? That's the goddamned point [U][B]RISK[/B][/U] Also, splurgy pal, gimmee a second to respond...

Who gives the government money to operate? [editline]07:33PM[/editline] Who gives the government employees and logistics to enforce these laws?

I think that a lot of the people who preach about Anarchism are likely to be the first to be killed Survival of the strongest

How will the government enforce such restrictive laws that can be easily dismissed if someone just retreats into their house?

[QUOTE=Lankist;15469657]Hurting people in anarchy is a pussy move[/QUOTE] Using an arbalest is a pussy move. Using ordnance, shells or any type of constant bombardment is a pussy move. Killing all the enemies soldiers while they sleep on the battlefield is a pussy move.

Fucking goddamn hezzy breakin my merge

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;15469540]Says the civilization-ist. Besides, the point is not really that they aren't afraid, but that they don't hold their peace of mind above their freedom. I'm afraid of being shot, but that doesn't mean I feel it necessary to tell everyone they can't own a gun.[/QUOTE] I have no idea why some people think freedom is some absolute pure good that's more important than everything. I may get robbed, have my property destroy, raped, and left to slowly starve to death, BUT AT LEAST I HAVE MY FREEDOM.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15469680]What you described wasn't anarchy, it was extremist, minimalist government. [editline]07:32PM[/editline] In which case, who decided what things the government enforces? [editline]07:33PM[/editline] And who ensures that never changes?[/QUOTE] [B]*My idea[/B] of ideal anarchy Would you read my posts before screaming, please?

[QUOTE=Lankist;15469697]Who gives the government money to operate? [editline]07:33PM[/editline] Who gives the government employees and logistics to enforce these laws?[/QUOTE] It's funny, when you think about that, any real anarchist can't live in society without being a hypocrite.

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;15469632]As you may have noticed while typing that, that doesn't make any sense. Anarchy is not about "la la la we all live in harmony, here have a cup of sugar neighbor" Anarchy is REAL freedom, which means the right to hurt anyone you want.[/QUOTE] Why do you want that right? Nutters could murder you in the street and unless you have some family to avenge you, that nutter will go on and murder others! There's a reason we don't have that right, because all the countries where you can do it are shitholes. Look at your house! In the room I'm sitting in, there's a television, a computer, a telephone, leather sofas, glass windows, cotton curtains and parquet flooring. If I lived under anarchy, I'd have none of this because I don't know how to make all these things so I wouldn't get them. Why would you want anarchy? Are you a mindless thug? [QUOTE=ryandaniels;15469696]So? That's the goddamned point [U][B]RISK[/B][/U] Also, splurgy pal, gimmee a second to respond...[/QUOTE] Whoops, sorry.

[QUOTE=Wayword;15469715]Using an arbalest is a pussy move. Using ordinance, shells or any type of constant bombardment is a pussy move. Killing all the enemies soldiers while they sleep on the battlefield is a pussy move.[/QUOTE] Yeah cuz all you cool cat anarchists fight people to death with your fists all the time. [editline]07:35PM[/editline] [QUOTE=ryandaniels;15469720][B]*My idea[/B] of ideal anarchy Would you read my posts before screaming, please?[/QUOTE] It isn't ideal. It couldn't function. It is an impossibility.

[QUOTE=lmaoboat;15469719]I have no idea why some people think freedom is some absolute pure good that's more important than everything. I may get robbed, have my property destroy, raped, and left to slowly starve to death, BUT AT LEAST I HAVE MY FREEDOM.[/QUOTE] I SAID THAT I DO [B]NOT[/B] WANT TO LIVE IN ANARCHY. However, just because YOU (and I) would rather live without (large) risk of murder, doesn't mean everyone else has to agree.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15469734]Yeah cuz all you cool cat anarchists fight people to death with your fists all the time. [/QUOTE] I don't believe in anarchy.

[QUOTE=Hezzy;15469705]I think that a lot of the people who preach about Anarchism are likely to be the first to be killed Survival of the strongest[/QUOTE] That's true, I'd die like *snaps fingers* THAT.

It would only work if you had the most brilliant, honest and trustworthy people in a community.

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;15469753]I SAID THAT I DO [B]NOT[/B] WANT TO LIVE IN ANARCHY. However, just because YOU (and I) would rather live without (large) risk of murder, doesn't mean everyone else has to agree.[/QUOTE] Somalia is the place for youuuuuuuuu! [QUOTE=Wayword;15469754]I don't believe in anarchy.[/QUOTE] Then I wouldn't recommend arguing on its behalf.

[QUOTE=Lankist;15469697]Who gives the government money to operate? [editline]07:33PM[/editline] Who gives the government employees and logistics to enforce these laws?[/QUOTE] We do, so we can get on with other things.

[QUOTE=Splurgy;15469782]We do, so we can get on with other things.[/QUOTE] And what happens if these pseudo-anarchists just lock their doors and don't pay taxes? Who's going to force them to?

[QUOTE=ryandaniels;15469720][B]*My idea[/B] of ideal anarchy Would you read my posts before screaming, please?[/QUOTE] Still, my point is that even if you are supposedly free, what right of freedom do you grant to the person you kill? I kill you, for example, as it is my freedom to do so. Haven't i broken the Anarchist "code", by no longer allowing you the freedom to choose your own fate, or to continue your life?

[QUOTE=Lankist;15469790]And what happens if these pseudo-anarchists just lock their doors and don't pay taxes? Who's going to force them to?[/QUOTE] The government seizes their belongings! :3:

There is multiple effective government systems, and in some societies, the people themselves work as a much better government. Though when a certain government style is applied to millions, then it starts to break down

[QUOTE=Dr Nick;15469810]The government seizes their belongings! :3:[/QUOTE] And henceforth the anarchy was over and the government's power had been established.

The point of anarchy is no rules, which won't work because people will just murder and steal from each other.

[QUOTE=Shodansbreak;15469824]There is multiple effective government systems, and in some societies, the people themselves work as a much better government. Though when a certain government style is applied to millions, then it starts to break down[/QUOTE] Uhh, government isn't made up of robots. Every government is run by people. Saying "people do a better job than government" is stupid. The government is ALREADY people.

[QUOTE=ChaosUnleash;15469836]The point of anarchy is no rules, which won't work because people will just murder and steal from each other.[/QUOTE] So are you saying that if there was no law against it, you would kill people? [editline]03:41PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;15469846]Uhh, government isn't made up of robots. Every government is run by people. Saying "people do a better job than government" is stupid. The government is ALREADY people.[/QUOTE] Yes, but how can one person truly represent however many people are in a nation

[QUOTE=Shodansbreak;15469847]Yes, but how can one person truly represent however many people are in a nation[/QUOTE] FYI government isn't run by one person. There are hundreds of thousands of individuals in most governments at very least.

[QUOTE=Shodansbreak;15469847]Yes, but how can one person truly represent however many people are in a nation[/QUOTE] That's why we have Democracy.

[QUOTE=Shodansbreak;15469847]So are you saying that if there was no law against it, you would kill people? [editline]03:41PM[/editline] Yes, but how can one person truly represent however many people are in a nation[/QUOTE] You would be more inclined in certain situations to kill someone, if you knew there were no consequences.