• Enough of the religion bashing
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It's all about the money in the end.
[QUOTE=humpalump;25905115]And even if one side was holding us back, How do you expect the other to convert if nothing but arrogence plagues either?[/QUOTE] What sort of arrogance? Theists claim to have an unchanging, perfect source of knowledge. Atheists tend to want to learn how the world actually works. Theists seem more inherently arrogant to me...
[QUOTE=humpalump;25904881]Alright. ATHEISTS: Cool, Don't believe in god, I could care less. THEISTS: Cool, Believe in god, I could care less. "Religion" Isn't pushing us back 100's of years, it's fools who argue about it who do. This includes conflicts between religions AND conflicts between theism/atheism. We are all at fault.[/QUOTE] No, Religion IS holding us back hundreds of years. Personal faith isn't hurting anyone, sure, but you can't deny that Religion and its involvement with science, politics and government is holding us back quite a bit.
Atheist right here. Agreed with op.
when peop[le say they dont want to talk about religion they are saying they dont want to be proven wrong. I mean we could talk about anything else but yet we are not sopposed to talk about religion, what makes it so special?
[quote]I want you to think about this: the only reason any of you all believe in god is because thats how your parents raised you so, now: If you were raised to be a satanist,atheist, Buddhist and/or Muslim you would be one of those wouldn't you? the only reason religion exists at all today is because previous generation's influenced the future generation's religious beliefs so think am I a Christian (or atheist, satanist, Buddhist, or Muslim) because I want to be? or was that what was imprinted on my mind at a time in my life when i was the most easy influenced? think for yourself question everything if you were raised as an atheist then you discovered Christianity you would convert to Christianity over atheism. Well I seriously doubt that. most people were raised as Christians and then discovered atheism yet didn't convert. so would it work if the situation was reversed? it would you only believe in what you believe because thats how you were raised. nothing I say will convert you. [/quote] off of my Facebook notes...
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25905677]when peop[le say they dont want to talk about religion they are saying they dont want to be proven wrong. I mean we could talk about anything else but yet we are not sopposed to talk about religion, what makes it so special?[/QUOTE] idk maybe because you can go on for 3291586372 pages and nothing changes. All internet talks about religion do is promote butthurt - the people who choose not to buy into it are the smart ones.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;25905872]idk maybe because you can go on for 3291586372 pages and nothing changes. All internet talks about religion do is promote butthurt - the people who choose not to buy into it are the smart ones.[/QUOTE] well making it an off limits topic will not help either
You're Hitler. Don't even bother arguing, I'm sure you're feeling the urge to invade Poland.
muslims destroyed the twin towers!!!1!!! we must fight against those suicide bombing 7-11 workars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. I am not religious, but I feel its important to let people believe what they want.
People want religious topics to go away because they feel that it affects them. They tell us to stop, but only cause more trouble. I have seen many many of these topics over the years I have been on the internet and from what I have seen, if you do not want any religion to be insulted or bashed or any sort of offense meant to it, then there is only one very very simple thing to do. One thing that, while damn near impossible to achieve due to how people act, can be done. Do not make ANY sort of topic about religion and people will not make any mention of it. The second you mention anything to do with any religion, a topic goes to hell with debate, argument, and what not. Even indirectly, religion is too much of a touchy subject to not get both positive AND negative comments on.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25904465]the chance of there being a god is way less likely then there being a universe[/QUOTE] Interesting...how did you arrive at that conclusion? I've never heard someone try to stuff the idea of God into a mathematical equation before. Maybe because there aren't many people insane enough to attempt to say what you just did. [QUOTE=Thy Reaper;25904513]And an intelligent actor capable of setting up the laws would be somehow simpler?[/QUOTE] Actor? Yes, I think it's far simpler. Not everything has to be down-to-earth, hard numbers and calculations and rooted in the completely understandable. You might as well try to reason that [I]I[/I] don't exist, sitting here typing this, because you can't see me or find my address, personal information, ect. It doesn't make me any less real, though. Let's face it - God isn't a number. You can't disprove a deity with science or reason against Him with numbers and calculations when you're talking about a meta-physical entity.
i don't bash religious people until they go herp DERP jesus christ is your savior accept jesus christ
[QUOTE=Jenkem;25909269]Interesting...how did you arrive at that conclusion? I've never heard someone try to stuff the idea of God into a mathematical equation before. Maybe because there aren't many people insane enough to attempt to say what you just did. [/QUOTE] your not making any sense I just said there is no proof of god. i dont have to use math or anything at all to notice there is no proof and the basics of logic is that you should believe things after proof was given. its not rocket surgery [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=Jenkem;25909269] Yes, I think it's far simpler. Not everything has to be down-to-earth, hard numbers and calculations and rooted in the completely understandable. You might as well try to reason that [I]I[/I] don't exist, sitting here typing this, because you can't see me or find my address, personal information, ect. It doesn't make me any less real, though. Let's face it - God isn't a number. You can't disprove a deity with science or reason against Him with numbers and calculations when you're talking about a meta-physical entity.[/QUOTE] im sorry but put your brain on and think what you said over and notice how god and a person typing are different because the fact that i know there are other people typing out there
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25909374] the fact that i know there are other people typing out there[/QUOTE] Do you? Do I? As far as I know, my entire life has been an illusion, a dream, and all of you are simply projections of my subconcious. The only real reason we have to believe that the information we're constantly recieving through our senses is true is that if it's not, we have nothing to base our picture of the world on.
[QUOTE=1STrandomman;25910631]Do you? Do I? As far as I know, my entire life has been an illusion, a dream, and all of you are simply projections of my subconcious. The only real reason we have to believe that the information we're constantly recieving through our senses is true is that if it's not, we have nothing to base our picture of the world on.[/QUOTE] thats sad that in order to believe in god you have to create bullshit like "how do i know anything is real" well you have no proof that your life is an illusion and because you can see and feel it you have proof that life is real, but not proof that god is real ok, the same reason i dont believe in go is the same reason i dont believe in vampires
Isn't the whole goal of a christian to spread the "good" word and get other people "saved"? You're slacking man, you need to force your beliefs on other people more. As an atheist I sometimes feel obligated to try to sway people of their religious tendencies, it just pains me to see so many people fail to understand logic. The main thing that bothers me about christians is the fact that they think their beliefs are the only ones that are right. Anti-abortion and anti-gay shit pisses me off the most. If you don't want to have an abortion, don't do it. If you're not gay, then don't have gay sex. But other people should have the freedom to do these things if they wish. Me and you are both athiest, you don't believe in any god other than jesus right? Well I just deny one more god than you do.
[QUOTE=Jenkem;25909269] Yes, I think it's far simpler. Not everything has to be down-to-earth, hard numbers and calculations and rooted in the completely understandable. You might as well try to reason that [I]I[/I] don't exist, sitting here typing this, because you can't see me or find my address, personal information, ect. It doesn't make me any less real, though. Let's face it - God isn't a number. You can't disprove a deity with science or reason against Him with numbers and calculations when you're talking about a meta-physical entity.[/QUOTE] Exactly why I don't believe he exists. He can't be proven to exist and you can't disprove his existence.
Yes, because ex-communicating little girls who got an abortion even though they were raped by their father is good!
As long as you're not forcing your religion on other people it's fine by me. [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;25922635]Exactly why I don't believe he exists. He can't be proven to exist and you can't disprove his existence.[/QUOTE] The theory of evolution is also, merely a theory such as the theory of religion. It's your choice which you chose to believe in.
[QUOTE=mac338;25923471]As long as you're not forcing your religion on other people it's fine by me. [editline]7th November 2010[/editline] The theory of evolution is also, merely a theory such as the theory of religion. It's your choice which you chose to believe in.[/QUOTE] I don't even......You need to go to school.
[QUOTE=mac338;25923471] The theory of evolution is also, merely a theory such as the theory of religion. It's your choice which you chose to believe in.[/QUOTE] Um. No. Unlike religion, evolution has proof behind it.
[QUOTE=mac338;25923471] The theory of evolution is also, merely a theory such as the theory of religion. It's your choice which you chose to believe in.[/QUOTE] What in the fuck. Evolution is a scientific theory, meaning it has mountains of evidence backing it. Religion(or Intelligent Design) is at [B]best[/B] a hypothesis about how the universe was created.
Whoops, read wrong, rate me boxes.
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[QUOTE=Viper the Tiger;25923836]ITT: Preteens who have no knowledge on the concepts of scientific theory.[/QUOTE] I read that post as "Unlike religion, evolution has [b]no[/b] proof behind it."
[QUOTE=I Broke The Sun!;25923782]a hypothesis about how the universe was created.[/QUOTE] Even that is an overstatement. A hypothesis is based on direct observation of statistical data or specific phenomenon, not some religious text.
Was watching early morning tv, IE religious informercials. Guy said, (not exact quote)"If you are a Christian, then you will be able to endure the hardships sent your way." I am atheist, but wait, only Christians will be able to endure? What about Muslims, or Jewish people. The sad thing is that religions don't just hate atheists, they also hate every other religion.
[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25919133]thats sad that in order to believe in god you have to create bullshit like "how do i know anything is real" well you have no proof that your life is an illusion and because you can see and feel it you have proof that life is real, but not proof that god is real ok, the same reason i dont believe in go is the same reason i dont believe in vampires[/QUOTE] I like how instead of addressing the point you insult it.
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