Communal Communism Thread: Everyone owns this shit - General

[QUOTE=Mr Infected;18911573]I like Democratic Socialism.[/QUOTE] "I like reality"

[QUOTE=Earthen;18911234] this is the best argument ever for capitalism, i think you should get an award or some shit, for making a valid argument.[/QUOTE] this thread basically makes me sick. it's turned into an argument af what's better. communism, for keeping everyone just barely above the poverty line. or capitalism, for allowing hard workers to become something great while leaving handicapped or retarded swimming in the soil. so 2 pages back i wrote down the answer for all to see. "Do, what Denmark did. socialist capitalism. here, we pay high taxes so that our state can keep us all above the comfort line, and it does. homelessnes is at a minimal, and as stupid as it sounds often voluntary. our average pays are the worlds highest, our minimal pay is the worlds highest, and we're credited as the worlds happiest people. (worked out by some mathematic formula) WE succeeded in mixing both ideas from communism, socialism and capitalism." if anythin WE deserve to be called the worlds leading country in human rights, we should be the worlds leaders. why? because we're actually doing something about shit in out own country before helping anywhere else, that way, we don't look hypocritic. we give away shitloads of money every year to africa and romania, and we don't look stupid because we ourselves are a stable nation. and i'm proud of it, even though i've yet to contribute to this. an advice for you would be to aim for the same goal, stop demonizing different ideologies when the obvious answer is that only a healthy mix can do the job. if you think major success is impossible with high taxes, look no further than maersk and IO interactives and LEGO. proof that LEGO realli is danish, LEj GOdt= Play well= LEGO. started in the late 1800s.

[QUOTE=WhatTheKlent;18911890]When you agree with someone's point it's a valid argument? But not when you disagree? Millions of deaths from starvation is better than extra individuality for the lucky few?[/QUOTE] Wait what? The millions of death from starvation in Africa is not going to be solved by communism, but most likely by completely redrawing the borders and teaching all the people there to do basic work, like agriculture. But then again you're a communist and you think we should all work on farms, get paid shit and have nothing... [editline]05:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Bomimo;18914273]this thread basically makes me sick. it's turned into an argument af what's better. communism, for keeping everyone just barely above the poverty line. or capitalism, for allowing hard workers to become something great while leaving handicapped or retarded swimming in the soil. so 2 pages back i wrote down the answer for all to see. "Do, what Denmark did. socialist capitalism. here, we pay high taxes so that our state can keep us all above the comfort line, and it does. homelessnes is at a minimal, and as stupid as it sounds often voluntary. our average pays are the worlds highest, our minimal pay is the worlds highest, and we're credited as the worlds happiest people. (worked out by some mathematic formula) WE succeeded in mixing both ideas from communism, socialism and capitalism." if anythin WE deserve to be called the worlds leading country in human rights, we should be the worlds leaders. why? because we're actually doing something about shit in out own country before helping anywhere else, that way, we don't look hypocritic. we give away shitloads of money every year to africa and romania, and we don't look stupid because we ourselves are a stable nation. and i'm proud of it, even though i've yet to contribute to this. an advice for you would be to aim for the same goal, stop demonizing different ideologies when the obvious answer is that only a healthy mix can do the job. if you think major success is impossible with high taxes, look no further than maersk and IO interactives and LEGO. proof that LEGO realli is danish, LEj GOdt= Play well= LEGO. started in the late 1800s.[/QUOTE] Wow nice arrogance there. Finland is actually higher up than Denmark in education, standard of living and technology, so by your logic we should be world leaders. No every country should have a say, like how the UN works.

[QUOTE=evilweazel;18903339]Communism is bad.[/QUOTE] animal farm!

I approve of this thread.

Fuck Communism :patriot:

I love the idea of communism, sometimes when I am bored I developp and try to create a new system wish is based on communism.

[QUOTE=junker154;18915600]I love the idea of communism, sometimes when I am bored I developp and try to create a new system wish is based on communism.[/QUOTE] What do you love about it? [editline]06:29PM[/editline] [QUOTE=WhatTheKlent;18909882]Cancer research has nothing to do with people in the "developed" world living off the sweat of underpaid workers who are essentially slaves. Cuban doctors are at the forefront of medical research and are therefore contributing to a cure for cancer, more so than a lot of capitalist countries I don't have an iPod and I don't own the computer but since it's in my house I might as well use it. What? You said people who are starving get benefits, I was pointing out the fact that most of them don't. I agree, punch him in the face repeatedly.[/QUOTE] I want some proof on that Cuban thing... I'm pretty sure you're some hacker kid with like twenty computers who keeps trying to destroy the "fascist pig dog capitalists"

[QUOTE=Earthen;18909062]So we should divert all funds from cancer research straight to helping everyone even if they could actually work. Yes there are hobos, but there are also people who just don't bother working and get benefits. Also stop being a hypocrite you probably have an ipod and you better be using windows 95 with netscape and 8mb ram, or you're also taking away from the poor or whatever[/QUOTE] Where did you get that retarded idea from? What's funny is, I found my Ipod and I payed for my laptop myself just sayin [editline]07:36PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Earthen;18916851] I want some proof on that Cuban thing... I'm pretty sure you're some hacker kid with like twenty computers who keeps trying to destroy the "fascist pig dog capitalists"[/QUOTE] How old are you? you act like a 5 year old. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4583668.stm[/url] I do not like Fascists, pig dogs, or capitalists oh hey [editline]07:38PM[/editline] [QUOTE=lazyguy;18909413]Because me paying money to buy bread is directly related to Somalians being unable to sort themselves out.[/quote] As a whole, it may if you think about it. [quote]Yeah let's shut ourselves in away from the rest of the world. For society![/quote] That's a bit superficial. [quote] There's this kid in Year 9 and he says he's a Maoist. I was like what the fuck you stupid kid that's like the worst of the worst.[/QUOTE] Fucking strangle him Only thing worse then a Stalinist is a Maoist. [editline]07:42PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Earthen;18911234]like that one guy said extremes don't work... also this whole keyboard warrior thing is bullshit, im not boasting or gloating, im just saying the communist kids usually got beat on, not by one person, but by the entire grade...[/quote] haha, you just gloated that you "were the one beating up on communists". Seriously, you're intolerant trash. [quote]explain why capitalism is bad?[/quote] Because its main goal is capital, not state welfare. Therefore, the capital comes before human rights. But with capitalism, it has the guise of "individual achievement". which sounds nice in theroy, but no where NEAR reality. [quote]this is the best argument ever for capitalism, i think you should get an award or some shit, for making a valid argument.[/QUOTE] Just make it more known you're hitting on him

[QUOTE=Earthen;18914812]Wait what? The millions of death from starvation in Africa is not going to be solved by communism, but most likely by completely redrawing the borders and teaching all the people there to do basic work, like agriculture. [/QUOTE] Completely redrawing borders doesn't work, that's one of the reasons Africa got fucked up in the first place And I'm all for teaching people to farm, It's one of the most important occupations there is. But not many people are teaching them Maybe it's just not a reliable investment, I suppose we should just let them starve then. [QUOTE=Earthen;18916851] I want some proof on that Cuban thing... I'm pretty sure you're some hacker kid with like twenty computers who keeps trying to destroy the "fascist pig dog capitalists"[/QUOTE] Cuba has one of the highest doctor to patient ratios in the world, it's a fact, check anywhere. And I have two computers, one is completley useless and takes up space and I'm using the other one. And please try to make a better point than "I bet you're x,y and z"

[QUOTE=Bomimo;18914273]this thread basically makes me sick. it's turned into an argument af what's better. communism, for keeping everyone just barely above the poverty line. or capitalism, for allowing hard workers to become something great while leaving handicapped or retarded swimming in the soil. so 2 pages back i wrote down the answer for all to see. "Do, what Denmark did. socialist capitalism. here, we pay high taxes so that our state can keep us all above the comfort line, and it does. homelessnes is at a minimal, and as stupid as it sounds often voluntary. our average pays are the worlds highest, our minimal pay is the worlds highest, and we're credited as the worlds happiest people. (worked out by some mathematic formula) WE succeeded in mixing both ideas from communism, socialism and capitalism." if anythin WE deserve to be called the worlds leading country in human rights, we should be the worlds leaders. why? because we're actually doing something about shit in out own country before helping anywhere else, that way, we don't look hypocritic. we give away shitloads of money every year to africa and romania, and we don't look stupid because we ourselves are a stable nation. and i'm proud of it, even though i've yet to contribute to this. an advice for you would be to aim for the same goal, stop demonizing different ideologies when the obvious answer is that only a healthy mix can do the job. if you think major success is impossible with high taxes, look no further than maersk and IO interactives and LEGO. proof that LEGO realli is danish, LEj GOdt= Play well= LEGO. started in the late 1800s.[/QUOTE] Denmarks democratic Socialism is a wonderful system, yes, but the way you described capitalism and Communism was dead wrong.

[QUOTE=WhatTheKlent;18917382] And please try to make a better point than "I bet you're x,y and z"[/QUOTE] good luck with that.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18917015]Where did you get that retarded idea from? What's funny is, I found my Ipod and I payed for my laptop myself just sayin [editline]07:36PM[/editline] How old are you? you act like a 5 year old. [url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4583668.stm[/url] I do not like Fascists, pig dogs, or capitalists oh hey [editline]07:38PM[/editline] As a whole, it may if you think about it. That's a bit superficial. Fucking strangle him Only thing worse then a Stalinist is a Maoist. [editline]07:42PM[/editline] haha, you just gloated that you "were the one beating up on communists". Seriously, you're intolerant trash. Because its main goal is capital, not state welfare. Therefore, the capital comes before human rights. But with capitalism, it has the guise of "individual achievement". which sounds nice in theroy, but no where NEAR reality. Just make it more known you're hitting on him[/QUOTE] hahahah hypocrite saying capitalism only works in theory, COMMUNISM ONLY WORKS IN THEORY I'd rather work for what I want and when I am comfortable with what I have help others. So I just start a nice business, then communism runs me under because of insanely high taxes and the belief that I have to help the others if I barely have anything myself? nice... Also are you saying that me buying food so that I can SURVIVE is wrong and that I should give it all to the Somalians? Its not my fault they got shit to eat, why should I feel guilty for something I'm not a part of and haven't caused. [editline]07:40PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Conscript;18917472]good luck with that.[/QUOTE] hurf durf I think I shall continue that path also whats up with your name conscript, it seems like you just played red alert and thought that would be an awesome idea for a name. Maybe you should be conscripted into the army and then you'll realize thats all it is.

[QUOTE=Earthen;18918718]hahahah hypocrite saying capitalism only works in theory, COMMUNISM ONLY WORKS IN THEORY[/quote] Not really. [quote]I'd rather work for what I want and when I am comfortable with what I have help others. So I just start a nice business, then communism runs me under because of insanely high taxes and the belief that I have to help the others if I barely have anything myself? nice...[/quote] Taxes inply capital, there is no capital in communism Christ, you're retarded. [quote]also whats up with your name conscript, it seems like you just played red alert and thought that would be an awesome idea for a name. Maybe you should be conscripted into the army and then you'll realize thats all it is.[/QUOTE] im earthen, im SO much better then everyone else.

[QUOTE=Earthen;18914812]Wait what? The millions of death from starvation in Africa is not going to be solved by communism, but most likely by completely redrawing the borders and teaching all the people there to do basic work, like agriculture. But then again you're a communist and you think we should all work on farms, get paid shit and have nothing... [editline]05:11PM[/editline] Wow nice arrogance there. Finland is actually higher up than Denmark in education, standard of living and technology, so by your logic we should be world leaders. No every country should have a say, like how the UN works.[/QUOTE] i was just trying to get across how stupid it is to for the world to look up to a country waging wars all the time, having a bucketload of homeless people, preaching about giving money to africa and human rights while at the same time smearing it all in shit, that's all. if the world was sane, we'd all look up the the country and community that looked most healthy, whether it be finland or denmark, i don't give a shit, but they're one of the few countries who actually really deserves to be called equal and advocates of freedom and human rights. as it is now, the world worships bullshitters.

Oh hell yea communism! For mother russia! Down with Capitalism!

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18918843]Not really. Taxes inply capital, there is no capital in communism Christ, you're retarded. im earthen, im SO much better then everyone else.[/QUOTE] well thankyou, i'm flattered I really admire your idiocracy, "No I could never be a hypocrite at all" You realise that communism only works in theory, capitalism might not work perfectly but it works a hell of a lot better than communism.

[QUOTE=Earthen;18919678]well thankyou, i'm flattered I really admire your idiocracy, "No I could never be a hypocrite at all" You realise that communism only works in theory, capitalism might not work perfectly but it works a hell of a lot better than communism.[/QUOTE] Don't bother refuting me, that's cool In never said that, and you contradicted yourself.

I have an idea everyone... I call this idea.... Democracy:patriot:

I love communism. Loved it so much in fact, I left it because I wasn't good enough for the collective good.

[QUOTE=General Stanley;18921517]I have an idea everyone... I call this idea.... Democracy:patriot:[/QUOTE] I have a rebuttal I call it... Tyranny of the majority.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18922608]I have a rebuttal I call it... Tyranny of the majority.[/QUOTE] I have a rebuttal I call it... Tyranny of the bureaucracy.

Funfact: Democracy was a quite negative word for almost two thousand years... Politea is where we are at.

[QUOTE=lazyguy;18924040]I have a rebuttal I call it... Tyranny of the bureaucracy.[/QUOTE] Which is why Republic's exist.

so is trotsky a communist or did i misread

[QUOTE=KmScMT;18924163]so is trotsky a communist or did i misread[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.gcal.ac.uk/archives/gcatt/images/Trotsky.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18918843]Not really. Taxes inply capital, there is no capital in communism Christ, you're retarded. im earthen, im SO much better then everyone else.[/QUOTE] No Capital? I thought all the companies and industries were owned by the government. The leaders like Stalin profited from this.

[QUOTE=junker154;18935344]No Capital? I thought all the companies and industries were owned by the government. The leaders like Stalin profited from this.[/QUOTE] He means money as capital (no communism has ever been where there wouldn't be any money)

[QUOTE=junker154;18935344]No Capital? I thought all the companies and industries were owned by the government. The leaders like Stalin profited from this.[/QUOTE] uhhh no there is no government in communism. And Stalin was not a communist. [editline]05:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=evilking1;18936816]He means money as capital (no communism has ever been where there wouldn't be any money)[/QUOTE] Was that English?

[QUOTE=Hellduck07;18857852]Communism's for 13-year-old losers trying too hard to be popular.[/QUOTE] I'm Fourteen Now, And Mature. I Type Like This.