[QUOTE=sonnysonny;18520218]My friend had this gun. Do NOT buy this gun:
1. It's fugly, HOW CAN THAT LOOK SEXY AT ALL!!!
2. The wiring was horrible, and fucked up out of the box
3. Heavy as hell
4. Rear sight breaks off if you don't flip the rail thing on top up first (hard to remember)
5. TINY battery space, the battery that comes with it will not fit so you need a 7.2 lipo or a rewire (rewire is no problem because it was fucked up)[/QUOTE]
1. Just your opinion, rails are practical for others who need them (Opinion)
2. Care to explain how it was fucked up?
3. True
4. True
5. So it's of the older style then, limited to a 8.4v mini battery then
[QUOTE=Mr. BigShot;18520518]DAMN! Well you're probably saying truth.. I mean, im total newbie, and you, well i don't know anything about you, but i believe that you have experience in airsoft.
Ouright, im now searching for any M4 platform gun, for playing mixture of CQB and long ranges, i would like battery in the stock, with full metal body. Post me best variants for first my gun.[/QUOTE]
So you probably want:
-Metal bodied M4
-Wiring to the rear (Solid stock or crane stock)
-An RIS of sorts (since you wanted a tactical AK)
-Good quality but on a budget
RSOV actually has a JG 416 with a metal body, but they want you to email them for availability. Not sure what the shipping from China would be though, but it will be a lot.
[url]http://rsov.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=3222[/url]
RSOV has a few metal bodied JG's here on this page.
[url]http://rsov.com/index.php?target=manufacturers&manufacturer_id=1&page=3[/url]
At the moment I think I would have recommended the Dboys M4's, but everywhere seems to have them out of stock. I'm even having a hard time tracking down metal bodied JG's in stock anywhere.
You might try and find a store that sells the Classic Army Sportsline M4's (or as they call them M15's) that have metal bodies. I know AEX near me sells them as a package for under $200, but I don't think they sell them outside the U.S.
[url]http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=364_68_600[/url]
[QUOTE=xXEnder007Xx;18522361]RSOV has a few metal bodied JG's here on this page.
[url]http://rsov.com/index.php?target=manufacturers&manufacturer_id=1&page=3[/url][/QUOTE]
I was about to suggest that.
The cost for a 5Kg package would be about 35-50€ for Spain, I suppose it's less for Lithuania
[QUOTE=xXEnder007Xx;18522361]1. Just your opinion, rails are practical for others who need them (Opinion)
2. Care to explain how it was fucked up?
3. True
4. True
5. So it's of the older style then, limited to a 8.4v mini battery then[/QUOTE]
2: The wiring was burned and fuse blown up out of the box so it needed new wires and fuse.
5: Older style has more room than this one, this one is insane to put the battery in so I just bought him a full stock.
[QUOTE=sonnysonny;18520218]My friend had this gun. Do NOT buy this gun:
1. It's fugly, HOW CAN THAT LOOK SEXY AT ALL!!!
2. The wiring was horrible, and fucked up out of the box
3. Heavy as hell
4. Rear sight breaks off if you don't flip the rail thing on top up first (hard to remember)
5. TINY battery space, the battery that comes with it will not fit so you need a 7.2 lipo or a rewire (rewire is no problem because it was fucked up)[/QUOTE]
Just got two questions on this:
2. im newbie, is that very very very bad?
3. how much kilograms?
[QUOTE=Mr. BigShot;18533083]Just got two questions on this:
2. im newbie, is that very very very bad?
3. how much kilograms?[/QUOTE]
2. That's horrible, you'll need to take out all of the wiring in the gun, buy a new set of wires, and solder it together right.
3. Around 3-3.5 kilos (7-8 pounds)
[QUOTE=sonnysonny;18535270]3. Around 3-3.5 kilos (7-8 pounds)[/QUOTE]
:|
When I saw 'Heavy as Hell' I was thinking more like 12-14 lbs. 7-8 is kinda normal for full metal, from the ones I've held.
[QUOTE=Newbienice99;18538974]:|
When I saw 'Heavy as Hell' I was thinking more like 12-14 lbs. 7-8 is kinda normal for full metal, from the ones I've held.[/QUOTE]
I use G&Gs and they use magnesium and aluminum so they're light. Might just be heavy to me.
7-8 pounds isn't too bad, but once you start tossing accessories on it becomes noticeable. My CA SCAR is around 8 pounds, not that bad, but once I added a scope, bipod and a light (don't ask why, I just do these weird setups at times) it becomes heavy. Grenade launchers really weight down a gun too.
I own a JG Hk416, it's fantastic except for a few things.
The stock cover ripped off because I tried to make the stock as short as possible, which you can't do with the battery in.
Also within the first week of it, I was shooting on semi-auto and something came loose and it just made a whirring noise.
All fixed though now, and it's brilliant.
Accurate as fuck.
If you really want a 416 for that low, just get the CA Sportline. And for your babbling about a crane stock: If a gun has an M4 style stock, then you can put an M4 Crane stock on it. It's a standard size stock tube.
VFC is horrible as a brand, just for the record. JG is okay, but they have motors of a questionable quality, and I've never had one that was shimmed well out of the box.
The CA will last you a bit longer. And just remember, when you're going for a lower-mid priced AEG, you're going to get what you pay for. Get a CA "Proline", Tokyo Mauri, or G&G AEG, and you're going to have a gun that will last you for years. If you get a CYMA, CLASSIC ARMY SPORTLINE, JG, VFC, MATRIX, Gallaxy, WELL, EHCO1, D-Boys, or any of the lower priced models, you're not going to get the same quality or life out of it. Sportlines, JG, ECHO1 and select CYMA guns will last you about a year of skirmishing, mabey 2 if you take care of them.
[quote=octavious;18783011]vfc is horrible as a brand[/quote]
heh?
[QUOTE=Marine1st;18789721]heh?[/QUOTE]
VFC is a bad brand.
Poorly made motors, gear sets, wiring, shiming is pre-set not ajusted with each gear box. Metal gears are badly cast...
I don't like VFC. They suck.
[QUOTE=Octavious;18798919]VFC is a bad brand.
Poorly made motors, gear sets, wiring, shiming is pre-set not ajusted with each gear box. Metal gears are badly cast...
I don't like VFC. They suck.[/QUOTE]
HAHAHA ok... whatever you say. My VFC SCAR and AKS74u say otherwise.
There's a gas blowback WE Hk416 on the way; it was supposedly released yesterday, but no stores have it yet. Gun will cost about $240, mags $40 each. They'll hold 35 rounds each, so it'll be hard to skirmish with, BUT it will be arguably THE most realistic HK416 replica. It cycles like the real gun, so if you're hardcore for the milsim aspect of the gun, it'll be worth something to you.
If it aint Inokatsu GBB M4 then I dont give a shit.
(Seriously guys, check that shit out)
The Inokatsu is a fine gun, but most people can't afford something that expensive and impractical for skirmish use. If I wanted an expensive wall hanger/plinker, I think I'd get one of those Airsoft Surgeon shotguns instead. Nothing like blasting whatever you want through those shells.
Also, the WE won't have a full bolt like the WA style systems have, so it's not the most realistic. Still, I wouldn't mind having one for that price. I thought it would cost more. Their Ver.3 M4's are up around $400, I'd imagine the 416 using the same system.
It's definitely going to be more affordable, and that's good enough for me.
The Inokatsu M4 is shockingly inexpensive for the quality it seems to have.
Lol my JLS has lasted more than two years, and it's still pumping out BB's.
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