Tacticlol v.3 I NEED A MAGWELL GRIP AFG VERTICAL GRIP HANDSTOP AND GRIPPOD EDITION - General

"for AR-style weapons that replicates the look of an AK rifle." That's like saying "The PKM is just a really big AK47 hurr durr"

[QUOTE=Kill001;43778490]I want a good alternate history game in which Nazis vs Commies vs NATO in one big '50s era clusterfuck/semi-realism[/QUOTE] I'd like a FPS of 'Silent Storm' (basically WW2 if all of the experimental shit wasn't paper guns)

[QUOTE=Kill001;43778490]I want a good alternate history game in which Nazis vs Commies vs NATO in one big '50s era clusterfuck/semi-realism[/QUOTE] Isnt the next Wolfenstein game set in a post WW2 where the Nazi's won with their occult tech and shit? [editline]11th February 2014[/editline] yeah [img]http://gyazo.com/d78176c19e61ff92b686b734c3471387.png[/img]

found this gem on an AMS comments section [img]https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31/q71/s720x720/1898677_10201690024716636_1158239071_o.jpg[/img]

Why is only the buttstock tan and nothing else?..

im more concerned over the 9x scope with a reflex on a 11.5 inch barrel with a stubby suppressor

10.5

dat 45 degree reflex though. [editline]12th February 2014[/editline] it upsets me.

[t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BghDKGJCUAAwfV-.jpg[/t]

Is that someone actually using one of those stupid things somewhere or is that just an advertisement the guys who made that use? It reminded me of this: [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9988278/gunsnshit/amazing.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=FloaterTWO;43925928]Is that someone actually using one of those stupid things somewhere or is that just an advertisement the guys who made that use? It reminded me of this: [t]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9988278/gunsnshit/amazing.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] good luck reloading that shit

Honestly it doesn't look that hard. You just turn it sideways 90 degrees on the mount (if it'll traverse that far) and reload it when it's closer to you.

Bringing this thread back from the dead. Local shop just posted this on FB: [img]http://i.imgur.com/1Guj3s5.png[/img]

Box magazines on bolt action rifles [img]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c72/Whitedog333/mag11_zpseecf2fd2.jpg[/img] Looks alright in moderation, looks silly as soon as it extends past the actual height of the gun

fuck you thats hot as fuck [IMG]http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/17485/17059345_1.jpg?v=8D06700357E4AD0[/IMG] UNF Dat dust cover tho [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] [IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/7841b1c7c649abf1d39de982965b7ef4/tumblr_my8oluM5EX1rwjpnyo3_1280.jpg[/IMG] fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuvk

And then proning became a little awkward Honestly long magazines on bolt action rifles brings up memories of: [img]http://www.datamancer.net/blog/images/mosinmag6.jpg[/img]

youre not supposed to be going prone in a trench

Then obviously that's a terrible design flaw on the rifle The chauchat and pedersen device accomodated the magazine better [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] And then lolwhoops, couldn't minimize self as a target in the field during an emergency while Simo Hayha laughs at the magazine monopod shooter levitating his body 5ft off the ground to accomodate dictionary skyscraper magazine

rifle built for trench warfare tho, where going prone was not a priority thats like complaining about an m82 being too big in case you have to raid a building

but what about this [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv9cuALp0FY&feature=player_detailpage[/media] this looks like some metro 2033 shit it has a fucking ak-74 muzzle brake how awesome is that

those battlefield modifications did what the soldiers needed: increased ammo capacity, reducing time spent reloading

[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;44065279]rifle built for trench warfare tho, where going prone was not a priority thats like complaining about an m82 being too big in case you have to raid a building[/QUOTE] Not quite 'cause for raiding trenches they had shit like walking fire automatic rifles and submachineguns if given the option, if not, pistols and other better alternatives ahoy; if not then it seems like a really niche role the box clipazine rifle fills It's more like complaining about the purpose built accurate bolt action rifle attempting to fill a rather different and possibly unsuitable role like trench fighting It would be more like complaining why the AK with 40 round mags can't be as good of a support weapon as a PKM because... well, it wasn't purpose built for that intention Plus, based on the optics on the Kar98 I'm sure the magazine is also redundant because the user is either picking people across trenches (ie: I wouldn't really attach for a cmag on a DMR platform either) or trying to squeeze into some place like... the ground or other tight spaces Not saying all soldiers in the trenches didn't know what they were doing but given the nature of WWI I'm sure there's a lot of experimental redundant and wtf designs out there that just seems over the top and useless in hindsight, hence tacticool. I'm sure there's a reason why 10+ round box magazines weren't standardized. It might look ~cool~ but then honestly a 10 round magazine probably works fine, ie: lee enfield, for rapid shooting trench warfare [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] On that note, cmag on a scoped bolt action rifle never reload always shooting [img]http://24.media.tumblr.com/8d87f95f3bb61999507aae2ec2f3e812/tumblr_mv8o5sycLb1rrmtkro1_1280.jpg[/img]

they were kinda standardized tho. at first they were just bubba'd mg15 box mags, but then they made actual magazines and converted some g98s to that along with the dust cover over the receiver. this wasnt the gun they would use to raid trenches with, as you said, they have other guns for that. this was for defending trenches tho. standing in my trench, i would rather have my bolt action rifle have a 20 round capacity than 5, when waves of enemy soldiers are running at me. theres literally no downside to having the 20 round box mag on a g98 aside from weight. Youre coming from the angle that fighting in wwi was very mobile. it wasnt. it was pretty much 100% stationary except in a few cases where you would go over the top, but liuke you said, in that case they would probably be using a pistol if they had it. if not, im not sure how the 20 round mag would hinder them in any case. and youre whole "wouldnt attach a c-mag to a dmr" thing.. its not. by todays standards, thats a standard capacity magazine. like i really dont see what youre issue is with it? [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] its not tacticool at all, its straight up practical. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] practicool

Uh guys, bolt-action rifles were used for trench fighting, while submachine guns and man-portable machine guns were rare. Handguns were generally only issued to officers, or occasionally to trench raiders operating at night later in the war. Most troops made do with their bolt-actions, resorting to grenades and hand-to-hand combat when necessary. The most dangerous part of attacking an enemy trench was the approach to it, where a bolt-action rifleman could not fire and then reload before reaching the enemy lines. This wasn't seen as a problem early in the war, because the idea was that the men would not be firing while they advanced, and so would have a full magazine when they went over the top. When firing in a line, having each individual soldier need to reload one stripper clip every five rounds versus four stripper clips every twenty rounds made no difference, the overall rate of fire was the same, so they went with the simpler and less bulky design. But the idea behind the Stoßtruppen, really a pretty significant innovation, was to combine fire and maneuver, and a big part of that was having the ammunition capacity for troops to be able to fight while they advanced and still be able to fight once reaching the enemy lines. Not all of WW1 was arm's-length melee. The bolt-action, full-length rifle remained the standard go-to weapon for all theaters. These extended magazines were a simple modification to the basic weaponry to help facilitate a new school of tactical thought.

[QUOTE=Fish Muffin;44065962]they were kinda standardized tho. at first they were just bubba'd mg15 box mags, but then they made actual magazines and converted some g98s to that along with the dust cover over the receiver. this wasnt the gun they would use to raid trenches with, as you said, they have other guns for that. this was for defending trenches tho. standing in my trench, i would rather have my bolt action rifle have a 20 round capacity than 5, when waves of enemy soldiers are running at me. theres literally no downside to having the 20 round box mag on a g98 aside from weight. Youre coming from the angle that fighting in wwi was very mobile. it wasnt. it was pretty much 100% stationary except in a few cases where you would go over the top, but liuke you said, in that case they would probably be using a pistol if they had it. if not, im not sure how the 20 round mag would hinder them in any case. and youre whole "wouldnt attach a c-mag to a dmr" thing.. its not. by todays standards, thats a standard capacity magazine. like i really dont see what youre issue is with it? [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] its not tacticool at all, its straight up practical. [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] practicool[/QUOTE] It comes off as more like a lolstopgap measure, which I've already explained; and it makes me wonder why Mauser didn't come up with a magazine design like Lee Enfield and instead a thurd party would make hueg magazines which would make the rifle heavier and bigger. Definitely given the circumstances, the box magazine could help with not having to reload another one or two assault clipz when jumping into a trench and it's probably the closest thing they could get for shelling out more rounds that's not an automatic riffel (almost akin to taping mags together in modern times, purpose-wise) but still it subtly cries out, "WE NEED MORE DAKKA. NEVER RELOAD" and long magazines was long to almost a silly length. See also: nugget trench mags. Honestly if it was effective, good on them, but I guess it wasn't effective enough to convince the average general that every infantryman needed one as soon as they got issued their rifles. If it was me and I needed to run across no man's land, I'd pick the less bulky rifle so I don't risk dying because weight, getting the rifle caught in wires, etc so I could actually get in the other bastard's trench. I'll leave cutting down attacking enemy troops to the maxim guns in a defensive situation Again the reason why it's so clunky to me is because it's a standard issue rifle for long range with a slow rate of fire converted to close quarters figting and because the lack of documents which indicates this was widespread. It really seems like a placeholder/stopgap until some sort of squad automatic fire was capable and in hindsight, the loooong magazines seem strange for a rifle built for long range accurate shooting, which then again makes the idea interesting 'cause WWI is filled with wonky ideas.

Would it be possible to (theoretically) create a rifle like a Krag-Jorgensen, but with a detachable magazine? Either the internal magazine just made detachable (so it'd be curved and kind of funky shaped but not extend the rifle's size at all), or a magazine coming off the side or something. It'd be horribly outdated and useless but i wonder if you could stick an extended magazine on a Krag style rifle so you could still go prone with it if nessecary.

[QUOTE=FloaterTWO;44068177]Would it be possible to (theoretically) create a rifle like a Krag-Jorgensen, but with a detachable magazine? Either the internal magazine just made detachable (so it'd be curved and kind of funky shaped but not extend the rifle's size at all), or a magazine coming off the side or something. It'd be horribly outdated and useless but i wonder if you could stick an extended magazine on a Krag style rifle so you could still go prone with it if nessecary.[/QUOTE] Actually that'd almost be hella steampunk Krag or some sort of bolt action rifle with a side magazines the length of RPK mags for trench fighting and zepplin defense :v: [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] Actually, would top fed mags on a bolt action rifle be possible? That would be shit I'd like to see

[t]http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130531201250/metro2033/images/1/1c/Zawór_z_LL_(FPP).jpg[/t] ???? I would like to see a top-feeding bolt action with offset sights, though. That'd be sweet.

[img]http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/boys2.jpeg[/img] ...tad big tho

thats exactly what I was thinking when you mentioned the Krag idea [editline]27th February 2014[/editline] Damnit Bobby