Guitar Discussion Thread V6 - General

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;28050862]Meshuggah uses a bass string for their lowest string. If it's good enough for Meshuggah it's good enough for you.[/QUOTE] Meshuggah string their 8s with .09s to .70s. You can get a .70 guitar string with little effort at all. If they use a bass string then it's fucking stupid [editline]15th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;28052251]I didn't even know D'addario made regular guitar strings in gauges up to 80, I've always used bass strings. Giant-ass bolt on neck with a pickup under every fret.[/QUOTE] I've got one on my 8. You can order them from stores online

dcalde78 how do you do your recording?

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7KkFFx-NY[/media] one of the best solos ever, methinks.

[QUOTE=blezzy;28060220]dcalde78 how do you do your recording?[/QUOTE] Well, I have a headphone amp I've been recording from cause I can't use my big amp cause it'll have no headphones in it. It can work the same way though. As long as it has a headphone socket (doesn't matter if you need an adaptor). Just get a regular 3.5mm to 3.5mm audio cable and connect the heaphone socket directly to your computer's microphone in socket.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;28045308]Silly hypothetical question. Can I get list of everyone in this thread who is actually capable of recording themselves playing? At a decent quality (no webcam mics, that sort of thing.)[/QUOTE] Yes, now I can.

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;28056787]Picks are dirt cheap, just get those. There are pocket amp things, but a real amp is hard to replace unless you use virtual amps on PC, which in the end can cost more than a real amp.[/QUOTE] i know their cheap. but getting to where i can buy them is not going to be in the question at the moment. how can i make my pc act as a virtual amp? or does an amp just make the sound? can i use my speaker system as an amp? i have the adapter to bring the giant headphone plug to the smaller one

[QUOTE=gerbile5;28060886]i know their cheap. but getting to where i can buy them is not going to be in the question at the moment. how can i make my pc act as a virtual amp? or does an amp just make the sound? can i use my speaker system as an amp? i have the adapter to bring the giant headphone plug to the smaller one[/QUOTE] Find an amp with a headphone jack out, that can go straight into the computer's mic (needs to be labeled headphone) Use a virtual amp application, guitar goes straight to computer. From there you can use your speaker system kind of like an amp's speaker.

[QUOTE=Unreliable;28061030]Find an amp with a headphone jack out, that can go straight into the computer's mic (needs to be labeled headphone) Use a virtual amp application, guitar goes straight to computer. From there you can use your speaker system kind of like an amp's speaker.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't do that. Instead I'd recommend a cheap audio interface with a 1/4 inch input and to plug your guitar in directly into the interface. There are a decent number of amp simulators such as Amplitube and Guitar Rig, but if you can't afford that then you can find some decent free ones like Shred. You are going to ask for a link to a decent cheap audio interface, so I provided one below [URL]http://www.guitarcenter.com/Behringer-Guitar-Link-UCG102-241228-i1175566.gc[/URL] When you start wanting to do live stuff or jam with people, you should start looking for an amp.

You can also combine the interface and amp sim with something like this: [url]http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/564464-REG/IK_Multimedia_AT_200_MTL_IN_AmpliTube_Metal_Guitar.html[/url] $100, has some good amp models on it, and you can buy them in other genre flavors if metal isn't your thing. [editline]14th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Dopey Trout;28058827] I've got one on my 8. You can order them from stores online[/QUOTE] A giant-ass neck with a pickup under every fret or a D'addario guitar string in 80? :v:

[QUOTE=Peavy262;28060460][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7KkFFx-NY[/media] one of the best solos ever, methinks.[/QUOTE] Completely agree. When people ask me what I think is the best guitar solo ever in fact, I say this one.

no this is the best solo ever [url]http://www.paulgilbert.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Kingy_who;28055533]I keep asking this question and never get any answers, I'm getting my second bass amp and I need advice, I want it to be powerful enough to be as loud as a medium guitar practice/small gig amp but I also want to be able to do a range heavy metal sounds and be able to do a bit of recording. My budget is £100 - £200 but I don't mind going a bit over, I was thinking about 100 watts.[/QUOTE] You will never, literally [B]never[/B], find use for a 100 watt-amp. Hell, even 50+ is pushing it. Look, a tube amp will get its characteristic sound only if you really cream the hell out of it. Like turning it up to eleven. Having such big amps will be way to loud. Even if you gig, you either: a) Play in a smaller/confined environment, a place where you don't need to amplify the volume. A 30:ish W will do just fine! 50+ W will be too loud. b) Play in a big setting, like at a festival. What you do is you use a smaller tube amp (so you can crank it really up) and then you mic it to amplify it. Put a microphone infront of a cranked 100 W and you will destroy the mic. Maybe you sometimes are seeing these monsters on stage? 99% they're only there for looks. I know, you are thinking "Well, a bigger amp will make my penis look bigger, and it can't hurt just having some extra watts ready?" - but it hurts, that's exactly what it does. It's like putting an F1 Engine in a Volvo thinking some extra horsepower can't hurt. You are paying more money for something that will work and sound much worse than a smaller counterpart. Just a heads up.. So when you're looking at a tube amp, try turning the volume knob almost all the way up. That's where the tube will perform its best. If you can't go past 12'o'clock without going deaf and breaking windows, then look for something smaller. :) [i]Edit:[/i] Ah, this is for guitar amps. Don't know about bass.

Remember though that he is asking for a Bass amp. While 100W is collosal for a guitar amplifier, it's weedy for a bass amp.

[QUOTE=absinthe;28063912]no this is the best solo ever [url]http://www.paulgilbert.com/[/url][/QUOTE] uhh...no.

My guitar teacher gave me a copy of his new solo album and he knows I'm a big metal guy but he said he thinks I'd like it anyway; he was damn right. Now I'm even more thankful to have him as a teacher because this album is kind of making me want to expand my music library beyond metal... like into more proggy/jazz stuff. If anybody else wants a listen [url=http://www.jonmulvey.net/listen/]here's his website[/url], not just trying to put a plug in for him but I really like this stuff and want to see other people's opinions about it.

Has anyone here had any experience with the BOSS ME-20? My friend's offering me his old one for $150

I want to start learning jazz stuff so that I can combine it with metal.

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;28064144]You will never, literally [B]never[/B], find use for a 100 watt-amp. Hell, even 50+ is pushing it. Look, a tube amp will get its characteristic sound only if you really cream the hell out of it. Like turning it up to eleven. Having such big amps will be way to loud. Even if you gig, you either: a) Play in a smaller/confined environment, a place where you don't need to amplify the volume. A 30:ish W will do just fine! 50+ W will be too loud. b) Play in a big setting, like at a festival. What you do is you use a smaller tube amp (so you can crank it really up) and then you mic it to amplify it. Put a microphone infront of a cranked 100 W and you will destroy the mic. Maybe you sometimes are seeing these monsters on stage? 99% they're only there for looks. I know, you are thinking "Well, a bigger amp will make my penis look bigger, and it can't hurt just having some extra watts ready?" - but it hurts, that's exactly what it does. It's like putting an F1 Engine in a Volvo thinking some extra horsepower can't hurt. You are paying more money for something that will work and sound much worse than a smaller counterpart. Just a heads up.. So when you're looking at a tube amp, try turning the volume knob almost all the way up. That's where the tube will perform its best. If you can't go past 12'o'clock without going deaf and breaking windows, then look for something smaller. :)[/QUOTE] How bout solid state amps? I have a roland cube 30x wasn't loud enough to play with my friend who own a drumset, got an 80-x at least now I'll be able to hear myself and hook a cab to it if needed.

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;28065370]I want to start learning jazz stuff so that I can combine it with metal.[/QUOTE] Jam over chord sequences with a lot of 9's and 11's and stuff and play modal scales and land on other notes than the root, the fifth and the third

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;28065370]I want to start learning jazz stuff so that I can combine it with metal.[/QUOTE] Do it. That's pretty much what I wanted to do with guitar and I think I've sort of succeeded. With jazz the absolute best thing to do is get a teacher. No matter what you teach yourself, jazz always has more complex theory behind it and it's much easier to grasp if you get taught it. I get jazz lessons and it helps every part of my playing

[QUOTE=HoldenC;28065526]How bout solid state amps? I have a roland cube 30x wasn't loud enough to play with my friend who own a drumset, got an 80-x at least now I'll be able to hear myself and hook a cab to it if needed.[/QUOTE] My solid state combo is good, but I never need to go loud on it. Mainly because one of our guitarists uses a 35W Fender amp and the other is using a 75W Randall. That said, we've found good Fender amps that he could invest in.

[QUOTE=gerbile5;28055998]im buying the epi SG and a fender guitar case for 120 tomorrow the only thing missing will be picks and a strap.[/QUOTE] How do you plan to fit an Epi SG into a Fender case?

I was asking my self the same question. How.. It can work if its a gigbag but not a hardcase.

Just cause it's a case, doesn't mean it can't fit many shapes: [img]http://www.fenderjaguar.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/fender%20jaguar-112521303973515850.jpg[/img] [editline]15th February 2011[/editline] my bass case is the same [editline]15th February 2011[/editline] though I do only have P-Basses to put in it

Yes, but the cheapest cases Fender makes nowadays are the Fender® Economy Molded Cases, they cost about $100.00 And I believe that an SG is wider at the bottom.

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;28064144]You will never, literally [B]never[/B], find use for a 100 watt-amp. Hell, even 50+ is pushing it. Look, a tube amp will get its characteristic sound only if you really cream the hell out of it. Like turning it up to eleven. Having such big amps will be way to loud. Even if you gig, you either: a) Play in a smaller/confined environment, a place where you don't need to amplify the volume. A 30:ish W will do just fine! 50+ W will be too loud. b) Play in a big setting, like at a festival. What you do is you use a smaller tube amp (so you can crank it really up) and then you mic it to amplify it. Put a microphone infront of a cranked 100 W and you will destroy the mic. Maybe you sometimes are seeing these monsters on stage? 99% they're only there for looks. I know, you are thinking "Well, a bigger amp will make my penis look bigger, and it can't hurt just having some extra watts ready?" - but it hurts, that's exactly what it does. It's like putting an F1 Engine in a Volvo thinking some extra horsepower can't hurt. You are paying more money for something that will work and sound much worse than a smaller counterpart. Just a heads up.. So when you're looking at a tube amp, try turning the volume knob almost all the way up. That's where the tube will perform its best. If you can't go past 12'o'clock without going deaf and breaking windows, then look for something smaller. :)[/QUOTE] Stop being a typical guitarist, thinking that bass and guitar are the same. I have a 30 watt amp at the moment and when I'm more than 4 foot away from it my bass guitars natural sound is louder than it. 100 - 200 watts are needed for small gigs, I know that much.

[QUOTE=Rad McCool;28064144]You will never, literally [B]never[/B], find use for a 100 watt-amp. Hell, even 50+ is pushing it. Look, a tube amp will get its characteristic sound only if you really cream the hell out of it. Like turning it up to eleven. Having such big amps will be way to loud. Even if you gig, you either: a) Play in a smaller/confined environment, a place where you don't need to amplify the volume. A 30:ish W will do just fine! 50+ W will be too loud. b) Play in a big setting, like at a festival. What you do is you use a smaller tube amp (so you can crank it really up) and then you mic it to amplify it. Put a microphone infront of a cranked 100 W and you will destroy the mic. Maybe you sometimes are seeing these monsters on stage? 99% they're only there for looks. I know, you are thinking "Well, a bigger amp will make my penis look bigger, and it can't hurt just having some extra watts ready?" - but it hurts, that's exactly what it does. It's like putting an F1 Engine in a Volvo thinking some extra horsepower can't hurt. You are paying more money for something that will work and sound much worse than a smaller counterpart. Just a heads up.. So when you're looking at a tube amp, try turning the volume knob almost all the way up. That's where the tube will perform its best. If you can't go past 12'o'clock without going deaf and breaking windows, then look for something smaller. :)[/QUOTE] You're a fool if you think they don't sound different. They make bigger amps for a reason, and people continue to buy them for a reason past dick measuring. You want lots of bass response, you need a 4x12. You want to drive a 4x12, you need a high wattage amp. High wattages are also important for high volume clean tone, and you'd be mad if you think that a 15-30 watter sounds even remotely similar to a 100 watt head. This is all related to guitar, if you're a bassist, go fucking nuts

[url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1060149-Messing-With-A-Sound-Some-Hate[/url]. Is anyone else with me on liking Fret Noise?

I don't hate fret noise. I've never encountered a guitarist who hates the sound, it's just a warning that you're not playing something as cleanly as possible, which is why most guitarists try and eliminate it as much as possible, but having none makes it sound robotic (see Michael Romeo)

But fretless instruments are still the best instruments.