[QUOTE=LasGunz;28481860]"single coil humbuckers"
someone knows jack about guitars :p
their either single coils or humbuckers, the size doesn't change anything.. excent quality maybe.[/QUOTE]
single coil (style) humbuckers
[editline]8th March 2011[/editline]
you only started posting here just to show off your new strat
no one cares
i have hot rails in my strat.
the tone you get from them is immense
[QUOTE=LasGunz;28482892]They don't. They're just a small form factor made to squeeze into the same space a Single Coil would.
You know how if you use say only the bridge or only the neck pickup on a Strat with single coils it hums, then when you switch to bridge-mid or neck-mid it doesnt? Well when you pickup from 2 at once they cut eachother out.. so essentially Humbuckers are 2 thinline Single coils wrapped into one to "Buck" the hum, hence the name Humbucker.
They sound nothing like single coils however and then when you combine more than one it just gets too fat and muddy sounding to be anything like a strat.
Call me a strat enthusiast but I'm not a fan of Humbuckers.. and I do own 2 guitars with HBs including a Stratocaster, albeit not a Fender or any other reputable Strat-copy manufacturer.[/QUOTE]
I'm aware of that first thing.
Ive got a HH Les Paul, an SSS Strat. But i want to build one that combines both...
[img]http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqZ,!kwE1LE+cVU-BNcGR-R0Ug~~0_12.JPG[/img]
This could be better for the fact that it has 3, 3 way switches that can do coil taps instead of 1, 5 way switch that cant.
[QUOTE=absinthe;28483120]single coil (style) humbuckers
[editline]8th March 2011[/editline]
you only started posting here just to show off your new strat
no one cares[/QUOTE]
i did post here to show off my new strat because as it goes i guess this thread called the "guitar discussion thread" is made to talk about or show pictures of guitars.
and since i started posting here i've became opinionated about certain things that people have said in the few pages i've read. so yeah.. you have successfully deduced why i am here and i don't care if no one is interested in what i post either, that's the nature of a general discussion thread.
[QUOTE=LasGunz;28466023]Bought a G&L Stratocaster the other day. It's an absolute fucking bombshell.
A little history on G&L for those that don't know.. when Leo Fender founded Fender he knew shit all about guitar, but he built them anyway and after he sold Fender decades later he moved on to start a company called G&L (George Fullerton and Leo Fender) where he finally got to step outside the standards of of "Fender Strats" and 'improve' what he thought needed work on Strats.
The result are the G&L Stratocasters..
Welp, here's mine..
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/ZVhDk.jpg[/img_thumb]
Best £450 I ever spent.
I've never heard a more thick, stratty sounding guitar.. even from real american fenders.
The best part? This thing is made from Swamp ash in [I]Indonesia[/I] and it toppes some American made strats i've played.
The Fullterton pickups were designed in the Fullterton Fender Cali factory as was all the hardware and wiring. They're the chunkiest pick ups I've ever used.. never heard such a tone before.
Also the 2 tone pots are individual treble and base controls instead of an over-all tone control I can manually drop the bass, treble or both from my signal providing for some very interesting tones.
I'm in love with it.
As an added "win", on Tuesday I'm buying a second hand 2002 Mexican Standard Strat in Midnight wine, Maple fingerboard with all stock electronics. Mint condition 9 years after manufacture.. for the lovely almost-theft price of...
£200.[/QUOTE]
I would rather play obscure guitar brands, rather than gibson and fender. If I ever got big.
[QUOTE=Unreliable;28485147]I would rather play obscure guitar brands, rather than gibson and fender. If I ever got big.[/QUOTE]
G&L are quite rare, I mean you can find them if you want them but in all guitar shops I've been too, franchise and small local shops they're never around.. they'd be easier to find online but they're fucking fantastic guitars. My G&L blows any strat I've used out of the water.. and the PTB pickup system is really unique (treble and bass controls instead of overall tone controls in the tone pots).
Plus like I explained Leo Fender made a lot of improvements on the G&L Strats over the typical Fender Strat. For one the pickups and the PTB system.. but the bridge is raised and floating and has the most angelic vibrato I've ever used, it's like putty.. but it's so easy to control.
If you want a Strat without going as typical as Fender then hunt down a good G&L Legacy Tribute or S-500.. though you can never knock a good Fender Strat, they're just great.
[QUOTE=LasGunz;28482892]They don't. They're just a small form factor made to squeeze into the same space a Single Coil would.
You know how if you use say only the bridge or only the neck pickup on a Strat with single coils it hums, then when you switch to bridge-mid or neck-mid it doesnt? Well when you pickup from 2 at once they cut eachother out.. so essentially Humbuckers are 2 thinline Single coils wrapped into one to "Buck" the hum, hence the name Humbucker.
They sound nothing like single coils however and then when you combine more than one it just gets too fat and muddy sounding to be anything like a strat.
Call me a strat enthusiast but I'm not a fan of Humbuckers.. and I do own 2 guitars with HBs including a Stratocaster, albeit not a Fender or any other reputable Strat-copy manufacturer.[/QUOTE]
Yes, this is true. I still think singlecoil sounds terrible for everything except clean electric, but you are correct about what a "single-coil humbucker" is. The magnetic rails are doubled vertically instead of across a larger rectangle (like in a conventional humbucker).
If I could make my own guitar, I would have copper hardware, maple neck, '59 strat pickups (maybe some G&L if I could play with one myself and determine it), black pickguard, unpainted with some kind of stained wood, and hopefully, more than 6 springs in the back to hold the bridge down.
Run on sentence galore.
[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;28485426]Yes, this is true. I still think singlecoil sounds terrible for everything except clean electric, but you are correct about what a "single-coil humbucker" is.[/QUOTE]
What the hell else would you use a generic SS/SSS strat for anyway? Most single coils sound nasty distorted.
But yeah if you like the tone of those pups why not? I've heard neat shit done with 'em before.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;28485640]What the hell else would you use a generic SS/SSS strat for anyway? Most single coils sound nasty distorted.
But yeah if you like the tone of those pups why not? I've heard neat shit done with 'em before.[/QUOTE]
Because you're not supposed to distort them in most cases. They're made to sound excellent clean and really great overdriven.. why you would want to saturate the fuck out of a single coil with distortion and ugly amp tones is beyond me. That's why humbuckers are made.. but putting them on a Strat just feels.. wrong.
Single coils are great for anything that isn't "heavy".. because they're not built to do that and they wre built originally in the 50s when that music didn't exist.
edit: I kind of misread, I thought you were arguing that Strats are shit for distiortion so you dislike that.. but really you're arguing against using them for distortion which means I agree. Though what I said above still stands.
[QUOTE=LasGunz;28486247]Because you're not supposed to distort them in most cases. They're made to sound excellent clean and really great overdriven.. why you would want to saturate the fuck out of a single coil with distortion and ugly amp tones is beyond me. That's why humbuckers are made.. but putting them on a Strat just feels.. wrong.
Single coils are great for anything that isn't "heavy".. because they're not built to do that and they wre built originally in the 50s when that music didn't exist.
edit: I kind of misread, I thought you were arguing that Strats are shit for distiortion so you dislike that.. but really you're arguing against using them for distortion which means I agree. Though what I said above still stands.[/QUOTE]
Not even Sir David Gilmour uses plain 'ol singlecoils, and he has my favorite classic tone of all time.
So no, I don't see any reason to want an all single-coil guitar.
When I perform I usually have my strat set to max everything and my boost low. When I get ready to solo, I give my band 1 cycle (i'll play, then stop, then solo) of the song and then come in when I change my amp settings.
Usually that means giving it a good dirty tone and hitting the tone knob on the tubescreamer.
If I could record that sound when I solo, I hope you'd like it.
I'm at least happy that this thread is full of people who like different kinds of music, my friend is a dick about it, and you guys are a million times nicer than he is in that sense.
[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;28486524]Not even Sir David Gilmour uses plain 'ol singlecoils, and he has my favorite classic tone of all time.
So no, I don't see any reason to want an all single-coil guitar.[/QUOTE]
I feel like I get more bass tone out of my single coil than my humbucker. But that's probably because my ears are used to hearing that bass. I used to love humbuckers, but now I feel like they attack my ears when I want to solo.
[editline]7th March 2011[/editline]
slowpunch
[editline]thisisafaggotedit[/editline]
The bass I hear might be because I use such high gauge strings, too. And my pickups are right under the string rather than recessed in the body a little.
Fit a bass with standard guage strings :smug:
[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;28486524]Not even Sir David Gilmour uses plain 'ol singlecoils, and he has my favorite classic tone of all time.
So no, I don't see any reason to want an all single-coil guitar.[/QUOTE]
I'll give you a few... Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Mark Knopfler, Hank Marvin, John Mayer and countless other Strat users that define the stratocaster tone using all single coil.
They're not made for heavy distortion.. that's not what they were designed for. In the 50s they didn't know what metal was, the guitar was made to be clean.. by the 60s and 70s plenty experimented with a bit of overdrive to make the guitar sound meaner.. but that's the extent of it, you dont distort the tone you overdrive it.
Big difference between a distortion and an overdrive.
snip doublepost
Humbuckers all the way
None of this clean tone
Here's a revolutionary idea.
Coil split Humbuckers.
That is actually fucking rediculously awesome, good job
being without a guitar suuuuckkksss
WTF
My vypyr won't go on anymore?!
[QUOTE=LasGunz;28489436]I'll give you a few... Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Mark Knopfler, Hank Marvin, John Mayer and countless other Strat users that define the stratocaster tone using all single coil.
They're not made for heavy distortion.. that's not what they were designed for. In the 50s they didn't know what metal was, the guitar was made to be clean.. by the 60s and 70s plenty experimented with a bit of overdrive to make the guitar sound meaner.. but that's the extent of it, you dont distort the tone you overdrive it.
Big difference between a distortion and an overdrive.[/QUOTE]
The way I'm reading this, your response implies that David Gilmour plays metal. Now THAT is hilarious.
Stevie Ray Vaughn I'll give you, he was fucking awesome. Hendrix I honestly never liked the tone of, just his guitar playing. Clapton solo I've never liked. With Cream he was okay, but I did not like his solo stuff at all. Never heard Knopfler or Marvin but I've heard of them, and I don't like John Mayer.
When you guys play barchords, what's the angle of your wrist and hand?
[QUOTE=Knorre;28490403]WTF
My vypyr won't go on anymore?![/QUOTE]
Starting to think the biggest factor in your hum problem is the amp, then
^uhoh
[QUOTE=JohanGS;28492718]When you guys play barchords, what's the angle of your wrist and hand?[/QUOTE]
Barre :eng101: and I don't quite know how to describe it other than I try to keep my hand as flat as possible, so as close to a perfect perpendicular (90 degrees) as I can comfortably get.
[editline]8th March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=jedi;28492727]^uhoh[/QUOTE]
Not entirely sure what that was really supposed to be in response to.
Should i adjust my truss rod?
Pressed down 1st and 18th frets, photo of the 7th fret
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[QUOTE=MOSBORG;28492781]Should i adjust my truss rod?
Pressed down 1st and 18th frets, photo of the 7th fret
[media]http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7743/cimg0469.jpg[/media][/QUOTE]
A little too fuzzy to tell for sure, but if you don't really know what you're doing (and don't feel comfortable trying), you should NOT toy with the truss rod.
[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;28492720]Starting to think the biggest factor in your hum problem is the amp, then[/QUOTE]
I pray to everything that isn't holy to me that it is, god damnit. Then again, i got the buzz out of other amps aswell.. Gah i'm getting [b]SO FUCKING SICK AND TIRED[/b] of all these problems :saddowns:
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