Guitar Discussion Thread V6 - General

I get by on a Table Saw, Bandsaw, Sanding unit (disk and belt), Thickness Planer, Router (and assortment of router bits), A Drill, Drill Guide, and a large set of drillbits. Also, youll need an assortment of handtools including chisels, rasps, wire cutters, soldering iron, spoke shave, grinder, and drum sanding bits. For finishing youll want a buffer, wetsanding paper, polishing compounds, and finishing wax.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;26590401]No idea. I like Ernie Ball, I think Im using 12s or 13s (very high gauge) But I play in standard tuning or drop d so that gauge really shreds your fingertips when you do a lot of string bending, and it wears your frets down. Just try a high gauge and see if it makes a difference. Any idea what your current gauge is?[/QUOTE] I use DR medium-heavy .10s and I swear by them. And Dopey, I know that rule well. Jari Maaenpaa is a living testament to it. But it requires more compensation to really get a good metal tone out of a guitar like a 335 or a Dot.

Depends really. I agree with you if you're emulating someone else's tone who doesn't use one but hollowbodies do sound unique, and if that sound is what you want then you won't find a replacement, and you will be able to get a kickass metal tone with it :buddy:

Which is the thickest guitar string set or single string you guys ever had on your guitar? I am having 15-80 on my baritone guitar right now and I did read and see someone in another forum posting his guitar and his FAT 195 string for an G00! :pwn: I also tuned so low with my 80 string and it still was tight enough to hold the note and I need to say that it sounds awesome and the bends I made... I did an 8-12 semi tones bend on the 4rd fret and it did not detune! (sounds insane) [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] When do I hit drop Z?

[QUOTE=Darkslicer;26590992]Which is the thickest guitar string set or single string you guys ever had on your guitar? I am having 15-80 on my baritone guitar right now and I did read and see someone in another forum posting his guitar and his FAT 195 string for an G00! :pwn: I also tuned so low with my 80 string and it still was tight enough to hold the note and I need to say that it sounds awesome and the bends I made... I did an 8-12 semi tones bend on the 4rd fret and it did not detune! (sounds insane) [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] When do I hit drop Z?[/QUOTE] you bent a whole octave? That's fucking insane, your strings must be reeeeaaaaally floppy [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] It should be impossible

[QUOTE=Darkslicer;26590992]Which is the thickest guitar string set or single string you guys ever had on your guitar? I am having 15-80 on my baritone guitar right now and I did read and see someone in another forum posting his guitar and his FAT 195 string for an G00! :pwn: I also tuned so low with my 80 string and it still was tight enough to hold the note and I need to say that it sounds awesome and the bends I made... I did an 8-12 semi tones bend on the 4rd fret and it did not detune! (sounds insane) [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] When do I hit drop Z?[/QUOTE] gnarly

I've got an .80 on the F# of my 8 string. I want to bump it up to a .90 but I can't find anywhere that stocks them in the UK

Hey there guys. I'm thinking about learning Marty Friedman's solo in Symphony of Destruction. The problem is, I've been playing for only 5 month's, and the only things I can play are seek and destroy, half of tears in the rain by Joe satriani and symphony of destruction, minus the solo of course. So I wonder how hard the solo is, and how much time would someone normally take to be able to play it decently? Is it a good idea to try to learn such a hard solo? Would it vastly improve my ability if I learn it? Or is it a better idea to keep learning easy stuff until I'm advanced enough to do it? Thanks in advance, facepunch guitarists. You're a great help : )

[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;26590365]Get .11s. .10s are for girly men [/QUOTE] Pfagh. .11s are for children. Real men play .09s. [QUOTE=Darkslicer;26590992]Which is the thickest guitar string set or single string you guys ever had on your guitar?[/QUOTE] I think I briefly had a 60 on the lowest string of my 7. Though I also have bazillion strings in way too many gauges left over from friends, so I'm going through them from lightest to lowest over time. Currently done with .09s, using EB .10s, next up is a set of DR .10s and then on to EB and GHS .11s. Actually, don't have a spare bass string for the low guy then. Right now I've got another EB 60 and and a D'addario 55. What would be a good size replacement when I go to .11s to keep everything roughly proportional?

I prefer .11s

[QUOTE=Destroyertf;26591677]Hey there guys. I'm thinking about learning Marty Friedman's solo in Symphony of Destruction.[/QUOTE] It's pretty hard. I guess it wouldn't hurt trying to learn it, but it probably won't help that much either, so one might consider it a waste of time. You will probably need at least a year or two more guitar experience before you'll be able to pull it off. Buuut of course it's up to you!

Alright guys, I must call on your expertise once more. Riders on the Storm is about my goddamn favorite song ever. The guitar part is awesome and rather easy. I'm going to try it when I get my new hollow body. One issue, what guitar effects are they using? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsI7lubCXuk[/media] My guitar teacher said it's possibly just reverb but we don't know for sure. Also I'm still looking for a tube amp with a nice clean, warm sound. Ideally something for jazz and blues but I would like the potential to play some pop/rock and psychedelic music such as The Doors with it. Ideally under $600.

Uh, He used tremolo. Get an Sg with P90s too. :3: As far as amps though, I never found out what Robby used, so I really couldn't help you out there.

Oh man I went to the Muse gig in Sydney last night, was SO awesome. Matt's guitars were so pimped out, couldn't see the headstocks, but one had a led light screen thing behind the pickups that was synchronised to the laser lights everywhere, another guitar had this hectic mirror paintjob, and they shone a spotlight on it and the reflection was kickass, and he also brought a 7 string with him. Also, he had a keytar, and a grand piano with glow-in-the-dark keys. The bass guitars were pretty mad too, had sweet paintjobs, but I couldn't see the make of the guitar properly, and my knowledge of basses is limited at best

[QUOTE=Teal Moose;26592906]Alright guys, I must call on your expertise once more. Riders on the Storm is about my goddamn favorite song ever. The guitar part is awesome and rather easy. I'm going to try it when I get my new hollow body. One issue, what guitar effects are they using? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsI7lubCXuk[/media] My guitar teacher said it's possibly just reverb but we don't know for sure. Also I'm still looking for a tube amp with a nice clean, warm sound. Ideally something for jazz and blues but I would like the potential to play some pop/rock and psychedelic music such as The Doors with it. Ideally under $600.[/QUOTE] Sounds like digital delay.

Pretty sure the "LED screen" you're thinking of is a synthesizer pad that Matt had built into his custom Manson guitars.

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;26593545]Sounds like digital delay.[/QUOTE] The song was recorded in 1971. I wasn't quite sure whether or not they had that ability back then, but regardless could the effect be replicated with digital delay?

[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;26593722]Pretty sure the "LED screen" you're thinking of is a synthesizer pad that Matt had built into his custom Manson guitars.[/QUOTE] Yeah that's what I meant, was awesome

[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;26593722]Pretty sure the "LED screen" you're thinking of is a synthesizer pad that Matt had built into his custom Manson guitars.[/QUOTE] the kaoss pad is hardly a synthesizer it's primarily an effect device

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;26593545]Sounds like digital delay.[/QUOTE] Would've been a bit too early for that, but they were doing analog ping-pong delay on amps well before that song and the resultant tremolo effect, which I think is what that is. Maybe with some other doctoring on it. But that would do the job depending on the model. [QUOTE=Teal Moose;26593929]but regardless could the effect be replicated with digital delay?[/QUOTE] Yes.

It is tremolo. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVAd1T26fMY&feature=channel[/media]

I have a bit of a dislike of the tremolo due to some bad electronic music I've heard abusing it in bad ways. It can be used very well in electronic and other music, but when it is used badly or overused I start to get really dizzy. [QUOTE=Xenocidebot;26594986]Yes.[/QUOTE] Could you explain how because I can only think about how it wouldn't be possible. Maybe I'm missing something or am not being creative enough. You could a similar effect with a short delay, lot of feedback, and you play the note for half the delay but an issue with this is that you wouldn't get the ring out, you'd only get the attack of the note repeating.

[QUOTE=Teal Moose;26592906]Alright guys, I must call on your expertise once more. Riders on the Storm is about my goddamn favorite song ever. The guitar part is awesome and rather easy. I'm going to try it when I get my new hollow body. One issue, what guitar effects are they using? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsI7lubCXuk[/media] My guitar teacher said it's possibly just reverb but we don't know for sure. Also I'm still looking for a tube amp with a nice clean, warm sound. Ideally something for jazz and blues but I would like the potential to play some pop/rock and psychedelic music such as The Doors with it. Ideally under $600.[/QUOTE] Get a Fender Amp. Lovely clean sound. Or possibly Line 6. As for that guitar sound, add quite a lot of treble, about up to 7, and keep bass at about 4. Have the gain all the way to, and use the tremolo.

[QUOTE=mynames2long;26591232]you bent a whole octave? That's fucking insane, your strings must be reeeeaaaaally floppy [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] It should be impossible[/QUOTE] The fat 80 string does really weird stuff dude if you tune it low (never had such an experience with lighter gauge's) It is floppy but at the same time when I tuned that low for that experiment it felt like it's tight enough to hold the tone, so I did bend the shit out of it :buddy: I have some small recording when I was in A or A# of the bends and it sounds like world destruction! I am currently working on a song and I will combine this low toned 80 string+bends and slow subbass drops (which last 7 seconds each hit) It just sounds like demolition.

[QUOTE=Darkslicer;26590992]Which is the thickest guitar string set or single string you guys ever had on your guitar? I am having 15-80 on my baritone guitar right now and I did read and see someone in another forum posting his guitar and his FAT 195 string for an G00! :pwn: I also tuned so low with my 80 string and it still was tight enough to hold the note and I need to say that it sounds awesome and the bends I made... I did an 8-12 semi tones bend on the 4rd fret and it did not detune! (sounds insane) [editline]9th December 2010[/editline] When do I hit drop Z?[/QUOTE] I've got a mix of 14's and 13's on my strat. I'm going to get the frets refitted and probably new tubes for my amp since it's the holidays. 14's are low strings and then 13's are G and B. Though, my high e is actually a 14.

[QUOTE=Pepin;26598458]Could you explain how because I can only think about how it wouldn't be possible. Maybe I'm missing something or am not being creative enough. You could a similar effect with a short delay, lot of feedback, and you play the note for half the delay but an issue with this is that you wouldn't get the ring out, you'd only get the attack of the note repeating.[/QUOTE] Okay, so a tremolo is just an alternating change in volume, I.E. really basic volume gate, right? That effect is tremolo with light reverb and maybe chorus like what Fender called "vibrato" + that other stuff on the old Twins' effects section, and then panned all the way to the right because it's having a duel to the death with an epiano with a leslie. Delay plays back recorded samples after a period of time. Digital delays can often dick with both the length of what's being played back and it's ADSR settings, as well as determine how long it records for and then apply filters to it upon playback. Fake "tape" delays, for example, go on for fucking ever, a lot of postrock or psychedelic oriented delays have reversal functions, and I'm pretty confident at least one Electro-Harmonix box and a multi have stuff like lowpass/highpass filters you can apply to the delayed portion. So if you have a semi-long loop coming in backwards and then fading out to increase and drop the volume at regular intervals, it sounds pretty much the same. Even better if it has a pass filter on the delayed sample. You could peg the difference up close with both ears, but live at a distance of fifty or more goats or just stereo panned on a recording, it'd fool everyone. One of my simpler ones even has a tremolo switch just for adding that gating effect and then you would do a short delay instead of reverb. I think Electro-Harmonix has one with that vibrato/chorus function built in too. And, actually, if you're recording these days you don't even really need to get a dedicated tremolo effect because you can just set up an automated gate to do the same shit. Maybe I should change the answer to "maybe." Or "ask someone which model delay you want beforehand because odds are your generic Boss isn't going to cut it."

Just got back from a concert performance. Went good, drummer messed up at a few places, couldn't hear my guitar during first song. We played: Rust In Peace... Polaris, Megadeth Harvester of Sorrow, Metallica Dread and the Fugitive Mind, Megadeth Disposable Heroes, Metallica Buried Alive, Avenged Sevenfold A song the other guitarist wrote.

That's convenient, I just played a gig too WE played: Aces High, Iron Maiden A Little Time, Helloween Disciples of the Watch, Testament Goliaths Disarm Their Davids, In Flames (Guess who death growled it :v:) Twilight Time, Stratovarius Back In The Village, Iron Maiden Caught Somewhere In Time, Iron Maiden Sea of Madness, Iron Maiden And closed with the greatest song ever: Hallowed be Thy Name, Iron Maiden :buddy:

I played live a few times. The first time I was just improvising and it turned out pretty bad because I started to have an out of body experience. I pulled of the ending with some tapping that actually sounded good. The next couple of times was just playing with my brothers band in front of a decent audience, that wasn't bad, but the lead guitarist turned everyone's volume down besides the drummer and singer so he was the only one being heard. So all you could hear was the drummer, singer, and lead guitarist, no bass or rhythm. That's a big reason why they kicked him out. I'd want to join a band and play some live gigs, but my epilepsy has gotten pretty bad and I have difficult times being around those kind of environments.

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