Guitar Discussion Thread V6 - General

[QUOTE=TheGuru;26999013]If it can handle 12, it can surely handle 7. Though to be honest it can't really handle 12, after 5 years the neck had a bit too much bow in it. I now have 8 strings on it and it has returned to a better action and seems to hold up fine.[/QUOTE] I'd be worried about asymmetrical tension on the headstock as well, but I have no idea how you'd determine whether or not it would cause substantial warping after multiple years on that particular instrument without actually fucking it up in the process. [editline]27th December 2010[/editline] [QUOTE=nardix;26999145]Q-tuners are awesome, aren't they?[/QUOTE] Certainly look the part. I wouldn't go through the hassle of buying new pots and shit for cheaper passives, but if those sound as sexy as I think they do distorted it'd totally be worth it. The fact that you can tweak them after installation is also pretty appealing.

After listening to TheGuru's song he made in Guitar Pro, I thought I may as well post one I made aswell. However, this is no where near as good as his. [media]http://soundcloud.com/nerrrinator/song-11[/media]

I've spent the better part of 4 hours trying to learn Dream Theater's In The Presence of Enemies and I've only gotten the first 40 seconds down... I don't even have :10-:40 done totally correct... This'll be a trip.

I wouldn't bother learning a Dream Theater song. I'm no machine.

I just fine-tuned my sweep picking technique on my bass so now I ran out of things to learn. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also I bought tickets for Periphery in February, can't wait.

Learn theory.

[QUOTE=Nonikai;27002551]Learn theory.[/QUOTE] Working on that every single day, thanks for the suggestion though. Any specific techniques or songs (genre does not matter) you suggest? And I already know how to slap.

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;27002511]I just fine-tuned my sweep picking technique on my bass so now I ran out of things to learn. Does anyone have any suggestions? Also I bought tickets for Periphery in February, can't wait.[/QUOTE] Learn to play bass.

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;27002772]Working on that every single day, thanks for the suggestion though. Any specific techniques or songs (genre does not matter) you suggest? And I already know how to slap.[/QUOTE] Modes and such. There is always more than enough theory to learn. Pick out random notes and make a chord, then try to explain how said chord is formed, and what scale it is in. There are endless possibilities. It's not often you'd need to sweep pick on a bass (unless your band does that) so try to figure out a balance between bass and guitar riffs. Basses don't always play the exact same way the guitar would play. Just explore in general.

Well I've learned Smoke on the Water (cliches, ho!). I can play it, but only slowly. This feels amazing really. I've been kicked out of Piano lessons countless times, and have never taken any musical instrument seriously until I got into The Beatles/Hendrix. Now that I'm actually taking steps to play the instruments they used in making revolutionary music, it feels fucking amazing. And this is as fun as hell. :h:

Congratulations. No sarcasm intended.

[QUOTE=Nonikai;27002843]Modes and such. There is always more than enough theory to learn. Pick out random notes and make a chord, then try to explain how said chord is formed, and what scale it is in. There are endless possibilities. It's not often you'd need to sweep pick on a bass (unless your band does that) so try to figure out a balance between bass and guitar riffs. Basses don't always play the exact same way the guitar would play. Just explore in general.[/QUOTE] Thanks you for the suggestion. My teacher is also learning me these things and improv, etc. And no my band does not play that, my band gets uncomfortable with anything harder than Green Day. I would love play in a Technical Death Metal band though. [QUOTE=nardix;27002781]Learn to play bass.[/QUOTE] I know how to play bass and I am not bad at it either.

[QUOTE=Franke_R!?;27002772] And I already know how to slap.[/QUOTE] Can you double thumb? After techniques are learnt you learn application of said techniques. You said you are learning theory, that's a great start.

[IMG]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/claddyblastphil/fd188bfa.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/claddyblastphil/142e6e06.jpg[/IMG] These bareknuckles are gonna scream

[QUOTE=Loompa Lord;27006891][img_thumb]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/claddyblastphil/fd188bfa.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/claddyblastphil/142e6e06.jpg[/img_thumb] These bareknuckles are gonna scream[/QUOTE] Was that an Ibby Gax30? If so, nice choice, it's a good guitar.

[QUOTE=Loompa Lord;27006891][img_thumb]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/claddyblastphil/fd188bfa.jpg[/img_thumb] [img_thumb]http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h250/claddyblastphil/142e6e06.jpg[/img_thumb] These bareknuckles are gonna scream[/QUOTE] I checked your thread on SS.org, it looks :krad2: [QUOTE=Tezzanator92;27004340]Can you double thumb? After techniques are learnt you learn application of said techniques. You said you are learning theory, that's a great start.[/QUOTE] Yeah I can double thumb although not very well (yet). I am also working on that every day. Same goes with theory, although I am getting better at that fast.

It's an Ibby Ax7 521 from fuji gen 1999. Paid barely anything for it, but the neck is superb and the fretwork is wonderful. 5 piece maple neck with a bubinga strip, and an all mahogany body. Perfect modding platform. Still needs tung oil on the body and neck. It's a work in a progress. Here's the full restoration: [url]http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/luthiery-modifications-customizations/140860-ibanez-ax7-521-restoration-update-pic-dump.html[/url] Edit: anyone know where I can find some ebony pickups rings that are not archtop?

My guitars: [url]http://filesmelt.com/dl/IMG_0544.jpg[/url] From L-R: 1978ish Ibanez Cimar Hummingbird 2009 Epiphone Riviera Nick Valensi 1997 Fender Squier Jagmaster

Nobody should even think about learning about modes until they have all the basic theory mastered. Basic theory is a prerequisite to anything about modes. Modes aren't hard at all to learn, but they really confuse a lot of people because it is based off of basic theory, meaning that if you don't understand that, you aren't likely to know understand modes.

What are the P94 pickups in your Riviera like?

[QUOTE=dirty harry;27010366]What are the P94 pickups in your Riviera like?[/QUOTE] Bright sound, with quite a bit of crunch. Very versatile.

[QUOTE=Pepin;27010248]Nobody should even think about learning about modes until they have all the basic theory mastered. Basic theory is a prerequisite to anything about modes. Modes aren't hard at all to learn, but they really confuse a lot of people because it is based off of basic theory, meaning that if you don't understand that, you aren't likely to know understand modes.[/QUOTE] I studied classical theory up to grade 5 in high school. Then I did grade 7 jazz theory in college. MODES, MODES EVRYWHAR :smithicide: I've grasped them now and now I'm doing grade 8 thankfully but fucking modes man, fucking modes.

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;27000590]I'd be worried about asymmetrical tension on the headstock as well, but I have no idea how you'd determine whether or not it would cause substantial warping after multiple years on that particular instrument without actually fucking it up in the process.[/QUOTE] Many 7 string guitars use the 4+3 configuration on the headstock. Even though you do have a point regarding the fact that these are not the string tensions the guitar was designed for (it doesn't even really hold up on what it was designed for anyway), the warping will be minimal at worst, and this is a $500 acoustic guitar that I don't really care that much about. I just want a 7 string acoustic to noodle around on and record with. If the different tension causes any problems I can just detune it after I play it to remove some excess stress on the neck.

[quote=dopey trout;27011717]i studied classical theory up to grade 5 in high school. Then i did grade 7 jazz theory in college. Modes, modes evrywhar :smithicide: I've grasped them now and now i'm doing grade 8 thankfully but fucking modes man, fucking modes.[/quote] [B]LEARN YOUR MODES[/B] [B]Hail to the Mode Master Race[/b]

Ionian - Major scale Dorian - Minor with #6 Phrygian - Minor with b2 Lydian - Major with #4 Mixolydian - Major with b7 Aeolian - Minor Locrian - Minor with b2 and b5 Thats the modes. Right?

As far as I know, yes.

[QUOTE=Just2Rusty;27013191]Ionian - Major scale Dorian - Minor with #6 Phrygian - Minor with b2 Lydian - Major with #4 Mixolydian - Major with b7 Aeolian - Minor Locrian - Minor with b2 and b5 Thats the modes. Right?[/QUOTE] easy peasy

Sweeeeeeeeeet.

stuff like that makes me think that most musicians have some sort of inferiority complex so they feel like they have to make everything they do seem way more complicated than it actually is

[QUOTE=TheGuru;27012673]Many 7 string guitars use the 4+3 configuration on the headstock. Even though you do have a point regarding the fact that these are not the string tensions the guitar was designed for (it doesn't even really hold up on what it was designed for anyway), the warping will be minimal at worst, and this is a $500 acoustic guitar that I don't really care that much about. I just want a 7 string acoustic to noodle around on and record with. If the different tension causes any problems I can just detune it after I play it to remove some excess stress on the neck.[/QUOTE] Perhaps put nylon strings on it once it converted to a sevenstring? That would probably decrease the tension a lot. And nylon string acoustics sound cooler than steel string acoustics in my opinion. But you probably have to order a special string/set or something for the low B or high A.