• Guitar Discussion Thread V6
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[QUOTE=Strawberry Man;27067076]That... is pretty fucking sweet.[/QUOTE] Thanks! [QUOTE=ARustySpoon;27067131]Artistic, because that's awesome in my opinion, and done way better than I could ever do.[/QUOTE] It's a piece of shit, it took like 10 minutes to cut the pickguard. And probably like an hour of work went into everything else other than sanding/staining, which isn't much.
Well atleast you're doing something. I can barely even fill out a custom order guitar sheet
Haha. I gotta keep playing somehow! I don't have the money for a guitar =(.
[QUOTE=Aljaud2;27066401]Here's the cardboard pickguard! [img_thumb]http://aljaud.com/files/cardboard_pickguard.jpg[/img_thumb] [editline]29th December 2010[/editline] I might just call it done. [editline]29th December 2010[/editline] You can see where there's too much wood stain by the bridge, and a big glob on the bottom from my friend's butcher job. =([/QUOTE] Dude, that's awesome!
Recording? Writing material? Written material? Order your tracks like this: 1. Make this a fast paced track that goes for 4 minutes to keep the listener listening. 2. Follow this up with another fast paced track, the listener is now convinced it is a good album 3. Make this a rather lengthy track, but not too repeditive. Have an acoutic or clean intro, then super climactic and heavy, then make sure the track fades out 4. Have a slower paced but interesting song here, still shortish but not too short 5. Heres your filler space 6. Now have a 3 minute attackingly fast song to wake the listener back up 7. Ballady type song. Have a clean picked tacky guitar with a 4 semitone harmony solo over it, then build up very well, to have the last few riffs using fourths rather than power chords to give it a sad angry feel 8. Very lengthy song 7-8 minutes, break the middle with a memorable clean section, then lead off into another bunch of melodies only to return with the content of the first half to finish off the track 9. Instrumental to make the listener want more. Helps your next album sell Congratulations, you win
...no. Order your album the way you feel flows the nicest, not just the way you think will 'sell' best. I plan on putting together an album over the course of the year, and I personally like the idea of starting the album off with a short (~2 minute) instrumental that's not overly heavy, and leading into something contrasting. But that's just me. It all depends on the style of music, whether you're writing a concept album, or like writing long songs, and far too many other things to put a general track order that everyone should use. Just use common sense. If for example you have a lot of long ambient passages in your music, it's probably best to put them between moments of excitement just so the album doesn't become monotonous. It's more about the songwriting than the order.
It was more a stereotype, not every album should be like it. when you use this to get a fanbase, then you do those long ass 14 track albums with 2 minute instrumentals and experimental stuff
If you wanna do experimental, why not do it from the start
Its cooler to do simple shit, then get 'to awesome for it', then get critically acclaimed for your experimental album sepultura ewre orgasmic each album, then Chaos AD was like extra awesome, but different
[QUOTE=SepticSchizo;27072584]Its cooler to do simple shit, then get 'to awesome for it', then get critically acclaimed for your experimental album sepultura ewre orgasmic each album, then Chaos AD was like extra awesome, but different[/QUOTE] WHO CARES WHAT IS THE COOLEST TO DO JUST MAKE MUSlC YOU ENJOY FUCK [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] why do I have to SAY this
You sure showed me with those box ratings
[QUOTE=SepticSchizo;27072795]You sure showed me with those box ratings[/QUOTE] Is that supposed to prove anything? [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] like "real mature using the ratings system"?
[QUOTE=SepticSchizo;27071611]Recording? Writing material? Written material? Order your tracks like this: 1. Make this a fast paced track that goes for 4 minutes to keep the listener listening. 2. Follow this up with another fast paced track, the listener is now convinced it is a good album 3. Make this a rather lengthy track, but not too repeditive. Have an acoutic or clean intro, then super climactic and heavy, then make sure the track fades out 4. Have a slower paced but interesting song here, still shortish but not too short 5. Heres your filler space 6. Now have a 3 minute attackingly fast song to wake the listener back up 7. Ballady type song. Have a clean picked tacky guitar with a 4 semitone harmony solo over it, then build up very well, to have the last few riffs using fourths rather than power chords to give it a sad angry feel 8. Very lengthy song 7-8 minutes, break the middle with a memorable clean section, then lead off into another bunch of melodies only to return with the content of the first half to finish off the track 9. Instrumental to make the listener want more. Helps your next album sell Congratulations, you win[/QUOTE] Except no. My bands album for example goes: 1. Epic feeling metal instrumental, opening of a 20 minute song suite which encompasses first 4 tracks, suddenly dies down to just acoustic 2. Upbeat rock in major key, with some metal overtones 3. Short ambient bridging piece 4. Long prog death metal 5. Long prog metal with funk influences 6. Short atmospheric piano 7. Acoustic, melancholic, peaceful There's no right way to structure an album, it's whatever suits the genre, style and bands preference the best. I think the structure of our album is perfect, and it follows none of what you said.
[QUOTE]1. Epic feeling metal instrumental, opening of a 20 minute song suite which encompasses first 4 tracks, suddenly dies down to just acoustic[/QUOTE] I wouldn't use this as an opener personally, especially 20 minute instrumental [QUOTE]6. Short atmospheric piano[/QUOTE] Makes for a good opening track, or closing track [QUOTE]2. Upbeat rock in major key, with some metal overtones 4. Long prog death metal 5. Long prog metal with funk influences[/QUOTE] It's a lot better to have 3 songs with these elements mixed together for a unique style. Playing different styles this diverse lacks substance and the album flow. Hopefully the line between 'upbeat rock in majore key' and 'prog death metal' is thin Really, I was being sarcastic before, but I'm trying to help here. Don't bombard me with dumb comments, just tell me why I'm wrong so I can explain/agree with it.
[QUOTE=SepticSchizo;27074630]I wouldn't use this as an opener personally, especially 20 minute instrumental Makes for a good opening track, or closing track It's a lot better to have 3 songs with these elements mixed together for a unique style. Playing different styles this diverse lacks substance and the album flow. Hopefully the line between 'upbeat rock in majore key' and 'prog death metal' is thin Really, I was being sarcastic before, but I'm trying to help here. Don't bombard me with dumb comments, just tell me why I'm wrong so I can explain/agree with it.[/QUOTE] No the song suite is the first 4 tracks, track 1 is the intro to the song suite and the first section. So tracks 1 2 3 and 4 feel as if they're one song. Although not bad points. The piano thing is really the intro to the closing track, we just wanted to expand on the ideas we had in it a bit more so we gave it it's own track, and the end rounds off to the piano part again, so it works in a similar way to what you suggested. And with your point about mixing the styles together, of course we have an overarching style over the top of all of it, we just have pretty diverse influences and want to show them. The whole thing has Idee Fixes and such so it feels like one consistent work. It's a concept album you see.
So like, what Dream Theater do? Maybe have vocals in one of the tracks
[QUOTE=SepticSchizo;27074681]So like, what Dream Theater do? Maybe have vocals in one of the tracks[/QUOTE] There are vocals in the tracks, only tracks 1 and 3 are instrumental.
well saying "this is how an album should be structured" is sort of like saying all songs have to have a chorus and a verse and only use I IV and V [editline]30th December 2010[/editline] ie, the only way music can progress is through experimentation
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPOsXGPtp3c&feature=player_embedded[/media] Got it sounding exactly like the guitar in the song. Volume knob was on 2.
Wish the quality would be better to judge :v:
[QUOTE=Darkslicer;27074918]Wish the quality would be better to judge :v:[/QUOTE] It's how its meant to sound. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEnwUAzPG4[/media] I'm not playing the part at the start, I'm playing the part when the vocals come in.
In your video I can hardly hear the pitch of the guitar So the quality is at fault yes
[QUOTE=Idioms;27058432]Can anyone help me with my pedal order ? I like to play shoegaze, post rock, post metal and indie but I'm really not sure about which order I should have these in. I have, Little Big Muff Pi Boss SD1 Marshall Reflector Memory Boy Dunlop Crybaby Small Stone[/QUOTE] Do you recommend any pedal? :3:
My band cant play the concert tonight because the bassist who is also the singer has a horrid Flu. :smith:
[QUOTE=Nonikai;27079071]My band cant play the concert tonight because the bassist who is also the singer has a horrid Flu. :smith:[/QUOTE] And you were so excited about the concert.. Sorry to hear that dude!
I'm thinking of buying a bass, is epiphone eb-0 any good, or should i go with an P-bass? It would be my first bass.
[QUOTE=Nonikai;27079071]My band cant play the concert tonight because the bassist who is also the singer has a horrid Flu. :smith:[/QUOTE] Wow, that sucks dick
on a brighter note, all my pedals came today. [IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/oqyu81.jpg[/IMG] im going to start playing now so i will see you all in about a week :P
[QUOTE=Mak123;27080302]on a brighter note, all my pedals came today. [img_thumb]http://i55.tinypic.com/oqyu81.jpg[/img_thumb] im going to start playing now so i will see you all in about a week :P[/QUOTE] I seem to have some kind of phobia of lots different parts interconnected through wire. Perhaps one reason I've been staying away from pedal set ups like that. Phobia may not be the right word, but maybe someone will get what I mean.
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