I might be suspended from school because someone drew a swastika on my property. WTF. - General

[QUOTE=Lankist;20035854] Uhh that completely ridiculous post was a short summary of Mein Kampf. Again, since when the fuck does Common Sense entail illiteracy?[/QUOTE] which led to a completely ridiculous conclusion. a short history of mein kampf now includes your ridiculous rationalizations for things that happened after the book was written. you high lankist?? is that why you brought this up??

You do realize what Mein Kampf was right? You do realize it was the Nazi Doctrine in its entirety?

What the fuck is wrong with Chippay, this is hilarious.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;20035911]What the fuck is wrong with Chippay, this is hilarious.[/QUOTE] He took fifteen xanex I think he is comitting suicide

[QUOTE=Lankist;20035888]There is no argument. You're claiming you have common sense even though you've done absolutely no research whatsoever. For the love of Rocket Christ read Mein Kampf, come back and tell me Hitler is sane and logical.[/QUOTE] there is no argument because you haven't made one. the closest thing you've done is pointed out a misworded statement. and i have read mein kampf lankist, fortunately i've also read history books. you obviously have not, as you don't have the slightest idea about what the human psyche is capable of, nor the causes of world war two.

[QUOTE=Chippay;20035920]there is no argument because you haven't made one. the closest thing you've done is pointed out a misworded statement. and i have read mein kampf lankist, fortunately i've also read history books. you obviously have not, as you don't have the slightest idea about what the human psyche is capable of, nor the causes of world war two.[/QUOTE] Again, where is your psychology degree? Oh right, common sense! Right! The same common sense that lead you to the conclusion that Jews started WWII and israel existed in WWII? [editline]12:20AM[/editline] Call poison control jesus christ

[QUOTE=Lankist;20035908]You do realize what Mein Kampf was right? You do realize it was the Nazi Doctrine in its entirety?[/QUOTE] jesus christ lankist, there was a reason why i explained the root causes of world war two for your benefit. i did that and you're still saying 'WELL MEIN KAMPF SAYS THIS SO THAT'S WHY THIS HAPPENED' which is completely illogical

Pretty sure Hitler did blame the Jews for all of their issues. Along with every other minority to exist.

[QUOTE=Chippay;20035957]jesus christ lankist, there was a reason why i explained the root causes of world war two for your benefit. i did that and you're still saying 'WELL MEIN KAMPF SAYS THIS SO THAT'S WHY THIS HAPPENED' which is completely illogical[/QUOTE] You are talking psychology. And yet your little list had nothing at all to do with psychology. You are wildly contradicting yourself. Chippay you need an intervention.

[QUOTE=Lankist;20035944]Again, where is your psychology degree? Oh right, common sense! Right! The same common sense that lead you to the conclusion that Jews started WWII and israel existed in WWII? [editline]12:20AM[/editline] Call poison control jesus christ[/QUOTE] five minutes later and you're still on things i explained to you, very simply i might add. it's hilarious that you've just completely dumped any remnants of an argument now

And that Hitler wanted to purge the world of these so-called "impure" My automerge All I'm getting from this is Chippay is believing Jews started WWII, and Lankist wants him to stop drinking Drain-O

[QUOTE=Chippay;20035983]it's hilarious that you've just completely dumped any remnants of an argument now[/QUOTE] I am trying to get you the help you need man you clearly have an issue [editline]12:24AM[/editline] You can prove your psychological analysis with evidence if you want, but thus far all you have said is YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE CAPABLE OF. I'll bite. Enlighten me with your dazzling psychological expertise.

[QUOTE=Lankist;20035977]You are talking psychology. And yet your little list had nothing at all to do with psychology. You are wildly contradicting yourself. Chippay you need an intervention.[/QUOTE] nationalism and psychology are linked. do you seriously not understand this? as i said i made it very clear. see, even by focusing on the point of psychology and dismissing the other causes (which is just so disappointing) you're still wrong. but you probably know that by now since all you have left is "REMEMBER WHEN YOU MISWORDED SOMETHING? "

[QUOTE=:smug:;20011208][B]Please don't lock this for "My day at school", this is more of a rant about overreaction to swastikas. [/B] [B]If this is in the wrong section, please could a mod move it. I thought it was suited to GD because it does raise some issues and isn't just me blogging, but it's up to a mod whether that's correct or not...[/B] It is a normal Economics lesson, I had just pointed out to my teacher that taking notes every lesson wasn't a great method. Bad idea... Later when she sees the swastika drawn on my planner (where I write homework etc.) she freaks. If I hadn't made that earlier point, she probably would have given me a warning and told me to get rid of it. But no, she freaked and took me outside after the lesson...where she promptly told me where my planner was going next. Now, I will never know whether this was coincidence or not. She could have chosen [B]any[/B] teacher to send it to - the most obvious being my form tutor or maybe the headmaster. But no, she chooses to send my planner to the moderately high-ranked Art teacher. Normally this would be unremarkable, but this particular teacher just happened to be Jewish. Meh, knowing what a bitch my Economics teacher is - she most likely did it on purpose. At this point I still wasn't that worried, I'd decided that I would explain away the swastika as someone else doing it and it'd all be fine (even though she's very strict and is a complete bitch, I thought she'd understand :v:). The next morning, I was told in registration to go to the Art teacher's office straight away. I obviously obliged...and what came next was a huge surprise... She started off by asking me to explain, and I went with the [B]"It was someone else, I couldn't help it"[/B] excuse. She immediately rejects this, and continues to attack me (not physically) about why it's there. Then she completely threw me off by actually accusing me of putting it there, which I deny. Then she goes on to rant about how if I can't prove who it was, she'd just assume it was me...what a bitch. Then she actually accuses me of having these political views, and then when I deny it she goes on to stress that it's not something to joke about. At this point I am just repeating that what she's saying is absolutely ridiculous, but by now my input is completely irrelevant. Now my mum has received multiples calls asking for a meeting with the Art teacher, and I have had to answer so many questions...until I told my mum the whole story, she was severely worried and had got the impression that I was in incredible amounts of trouble. Surely not all Jews react like this? I'm not retarded, I do know that swastikas are/can be perceived as incredibly offensive but surely the way this teacher has reacted is in a slightly melodramatic fashion? And I would like to see more examples of how Jewish fellows have reacted to a similar situation, or maybe just a swastika in an everyday environment. Is my teacher justified in what she thinks...? I wouldn't know, not being Jewish and all... [B]TL;DR[/B][I] Someone drew a swastika on my property, Jewish teacher rages and might suspend me, I question the nature of the said teacher and whether they are correct in reacting like this.[/I] [editline]23:12[/editline] I live in England (Hertfordshire, about an hour out of London). [editline]23:15[/editline] To clarify, expression of pro-Nazi beliefs is illegal. Maybe if it was clearly the BNP logo, I'd get away with it...but it wasn't. [editline]16:56[/editline] I was isolated (like in-school suspension). I had a GSCE French speaking exam later that day, after spending 5 hours in small room with very little human contact - I can safely assume I got a terrible grade in my exam.[/QUOTE] Just show her this post even tho you called her a bitch, she will see you put so much effort into your problem. Or you can sew her if you catch the other kid.

Nationalism is not a psychological condition recognized by any professional in the field. If you prove nationalism to be a psychological condition please do so.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;20035984]And that Hitler wanted to purge the world of these so-called "impure" My automerge All I'm getting from this is Chippay is believing Jews started WWII, and Lankist wants him to stop drinking Drain-O[/QUOTE] all i'm getting from this post is that you can't read the numerous posts i've explained myself in. gj i guess

I did my own version of tl;dr And I do believe that Hitler did have syphilis

[QUOTE=Lankist;20035993]I am trying to get you the help you need man you clearly have an issue [editline]12:24AM[/editline] You can prove your psychological analysis with evidence if you want, but thus far all you have said is YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE ARE CAPABLE OF. I'll bite. Enlighten me with your dazzling psychological expertise.[/QUOTE] your issue is a complete fear of actually dealing with an argument you can't win, but i'm working you through it man. this isn't even psychological experience. this is basic history. people are capable of doing entirely evil things yet still remaining entirely sane. are the people who kill civilians in war insane? are the german people who sponsored a regime that thrived on racial tolerance insane? were they insane after the war? the answers to all of these is a complete no.

[QUOTE=Chippay;20036086]your issue is a complete fear of actually dealing with an argument you can't win, but i'm working you through it man. this isn't even psychological experience. this is basic history. people are capable of doing entirely evil things yet still remaining entirely sane. are the people who kill civilians in war insane? are the german people who sponsored a regime that thrived on racial tolerance insane? were they insane after the war? the answers to all of these is a complete no.[/QUOTE] Are people who are obsessively paranoid with reported vivid delusions insane? FYI the answer is yes.

[QUOTE=Lankist;20036031]Nationalism is not a psychological condition recognized by any professional in the field. If you prove nationalism to be a psychological condition please do so.[/QUOTE] who said nationalism is a psychological condition other than yourself? psychology is more than conditions and illnesses lankist. at the risk of repeating myself, this is basic shit

[QUOTE=Chippay;20036019]nationalism and psychology are linked.[/QUOTE] Prove it, Drain-O boy.

I just noticed that if this thread was a train, we are in the middle of the ocean. I am done with this argument for the night. You two may continue

[QUOTE=Lankist;20036101]Are people who are obsessively paranoid with reported vivid delusions insane? FYI the answer is yes.[/QUOTE] paranoia is now insanity, thanks doctor know nothing. i'll bite lankist, even though this is long past the argument this post started on. which if you recall was about the causes of world war two. where did hitler show that his actions were clouded by frequent and vivid delusions severe enough to render him insane and unable to think logically? an answer other than 'I READ IT IN MEIN KAMPF' would be appreciated. reports of it during his term as fuher, if you please. [editline]05:38AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;20036116]Prove it, Drain-O boy.[/QUOTE] i have absolutely no desire to explain something that should be so simple post the obvious facts so here we go. i already know how the last list i made went, you disregarded it and started a new argument you at least had a say in. -the human mind constantly creates identities and bonds to follow. whether they be to a clan tribe or nation. this allows people to view the mass of people they will never meet as more than strangers, this leads to a bond most people might associate with a family group. basically i could go on for hours. there's literally hundreds of books on it, here's some shit i googled because then you're wasting their time and not mine. [url]http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/0/8/4/7/p108473_index.html[/url] this is a book review since you're probably not buying an entire book for this [url]http://www.nationalismproject.org/books/bookrevs/searle-white.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Chippay;20036149]paranoia is now insanity, thanks doctor know nothing. i'll bite lankist, even though this is long past the argument this post started on. which if you recall was about the causes of world war two. where did hitler show that his actions were clouded by frequent and vivid delusions severe enough to render him insane and unable to think logically? an answer other than 'I READ IT IN MEIN KAMPF' would be appreciated. reports of it during his term as fuher, if you please.[/QUOTE] An excerpt from Mein Kampf on the use of Poison Gas: " At the beginning of the Great War, or even during the War, if twelve or fifteen thousand of these Jews who were corrupting the nation had been forced to submit to poison-gas . . . then the millions of sacrifices made at the front would not have been in vain. These tactics are based on an accurate estimation of human weakness and must lead to success, with almost mathematical certainty, unless the other side also learns how to fight poison gas with poison gas. The weaker natures must be told that here it is a case of to be or not to be." Hitler was wildly against the use of poison gas, being a victim of such an attack in WWI (October 15th, 1918, when he was diagnosed with Conversion Disorder, then known Hysteria.) He, however, was NOT against its use on Jews and the other so called lower races. This is Psychopathy, or more specifically its sub-condition: Antisocial personality disorder (Sociopathy.) He completely disregarded the rights of a group of individuals based on deeply rooted prejudices and held very little human empathy for the suffering he caused. This is a textbook definition of psychopathy, a legitimate mental disorder. [editline]12:46AM[/editline] Don't pull this "find me proof from when he's fuher" bullshit. Hysteria and Sociopathy do not just go away in a few years, especially given he was not treated, rather IMPRISONED and his symptoms only exacerbated by that point as evidenced by the views displayed in Mein Kampf. [editline]12:49AM[/editline] Symptoms of Sociopathy: [b]* Persistent lying or stealing[/b] [b]* Superficial charm[/b] [b] * Apparent lack of remorse or empathy; inability to care about hurting others[/b] [b]* Inability to keep jobs or stay in school[/b] [b] * Impulsivity and/or recklessness[/b] * Lack of realistic, long-term goals — an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals * Inability to make or keep friends, or maintain relationships such as marriage [b]* Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper[/b] [b]* Narcissism, elevated self-appraisal or a sense of extreme entitlement[/b] [b] * A persistent agitated or depressed feeling (dysphoria)[/b] * A history of childhood conduct disorder * Recurring difficulties with the law [b]* Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others[/b] * Substance abuse [b]* Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights[/b] * Inability to tolerate boredom [b] * Disregard for the safety of self or others[/b] [b]* Persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social rules, obligations, and norms[/b] [b]* Difficulties with authority figures[/b]

You have been framed like Joe Hill.

[QUOTE=Lankist;20036337]An excerpt from Mein Kampf on the use of Poison Gas: " At the beginning of the Great War, or even during the War, if twelve or fifteen thousand of these Jews who were corrupting the nation had been forced to submit to poison-gas . . . then the millions of sacrifices made at the front would not have been in vain. These tactics are based on an accurate estimation of human weakness and must lead to success, with almost mathematical certainty, unless the other side also learns how to fight poison gas with poison gas. The weaker natures must be told that here it is a case of to be or not to be." Hitler was wildly against the use of poison gas, being a victim of such an attack in WWI (October 15th, 1918, when he was diagnosed with Conversion Disorder, then known Hysteria.) He, however, was NOT against its use on Jews and the other so called lower races. This is Psychopathy, or more specifically its sub-condition: Antisocial personality disorder (Sociopathy.) He completely disregarded the rights of a group of individuals based on deeply rooted prejudices and held very little human empathy for the suffering he caused. This is a textbook definition of psychopathy, a legitimate mental disorder. [editline]12:46AM[/editline] Don't pull this "find me proof from when he's fuher" bullshit. Hysteria and Sociopathy do not just go away in a few years, especially given he was not treated, rather IMPRISONED and his symptoms only exacerbated by that point as evidenced by the views displayed in Mein Kampf.[/QUOTE] 1.)scapegoating, lankist. hitler needed a scapegoat for why the glorious master race was able to lose the war. this scapegoat was the jews. the concept of a jewish run government wasn't unknown at the time, and given the conditions of anti-semitism and revanchism present in the population it was even easier to believe. 2.) how exactly does this quote prove hitler is insane? and yes lankist, hitler wasn't against the use of gas to kill 'lesser races.' this doesn't make him insane. what it makes him is an incredibly evil man, and by labeling him as insane you're taking away from what hitler was. someone who was able to send thousands of people to die for nothing. i must say though, i'm impressed with your sociopathy argument. after an hour of you picking at a misswording and ignoring my posts it's refreshing to see something like this. first of all, the traits of a sociopath are much more varied than simple lack of empathy. empathy can easily be washed away. soldiers can kill repeatedly without being crippled by empathy. there are literally thousands and thousands of examples of mankind being unspeakably cruel to each other. whether through the rape, pillage, and mass murder of dozens of empires, of special note the mongol and their descendants. your argument would force me to label millions and millions of people across history as utterly sociopaths. from the soldiers who raped and murdered across centuries and continents, to the people who ordered them. further more, let's take a closer look at the symptoms of a sociopath. of special note are: shallow emotions impulsive the quality of poor behavior controls lack of responsibility i think that both of us realize that through everything he did he never seemed to lack responsibility, rather he took more of it on. being impulsive and having poor behavior controls certainly weren't qualities of the man who slowly but surely managed to turn weimar germany into the juggernaught that would rampage through europe. with shallow emotions you have a lot more of an argument, but instead i would argue that for many describing hitler as not being emotional enough would be a mistake. his lack of empathy for those he killed not withstanding. finally, it's important to remind ourselves of the climate of the day. anti-semitism was rampant, and with the rise of social darwinism there seemed to be proof(however wrong) that other races simply weren't human. this, i believe helps to explain how there seemed to be so little empathy on the part of hitler, and of course, the complicit german people. the jewish people were simply not viewed as human. i would argue that for many doing something such as murdering a fellow human being would be for the most manipulated akin to slaughtering an animal, and few people will label butchers as sociopaths. i do hope you take the time to read and reply to this, although the memory of how you disregarded four lines of text as too much to read is still more than fresh in my mind [editline]06:10AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lankist;20036337] Symptoms of Sociopathy: [B]* Persistent lying or stealing[/B] [B]* Superficial charm[/B] [B] * Apparent lack of remorse or empathy; inability to care about hurting others[/B] [B]* Inability to keep jobs or stay in school[/B] [B] * Impulsivity and/or recklessness[/B] * Lack of realistic, long-term goals — an inability or persistent failure to develop and execute long-term plans and goals * Inability to make or keep friends, or maintain relationships such as marriage [B]* Poor behavioral controls — expressions of irritability, annoyance, impatience, threats, aggression, and verbal abuse; inadequate control of anger and temper[/B] [B]* Narcissism, elevated self-appraisal or a sense of extreme entitlement[/B] [B] * A persistent agitated or depressed feeling (dysphoria)[/B] * A history of childhood conduct disorder * Recurring difficulties with the law [B]* Tendency to violate the boundaries and rights of others[/B] * Substance abuse [B]* Aggressive, often violent behavior; prone to getting involved in fights[/B] * Inability to tolerate boredom [B] * Disregard for the safety of self or others[/B] [B]* Persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social rules, obligations, and norms[/B] [B]* Difficulties with authority figures[/B][/QUOTE] looks like we had the same idea. (ps i am going to address it from the bottom, as that's where the text is on my screen) i take issue with a few of the things you quoted here. hitler had issues with the authority figures of the current, relatively liberal democratic government of the weimar republic. he idolized the authoritarian and conservative rule of the prussian and german empires. further more hitler fit right in with several of the social norms of his time, anti-semitism, revanchism, and a belief that germany had been sabotaged. by putting disregard for the safety of others you might as well cross off most military and political leaders in the history of mankind. the rest of your points i either don't have issue with or addressed on my own in the original post. [editline]06:11AM[/editline] damn look at all these words

I don't think your essay's long enough.

How coincidental, I just learned about the reverse swastika today. Just say your friend accidentally drew a Swastika, when they meant to draw the reverse one, which means eternity in Asia.

[QUOTE=Dmarine;20037115]I don't think your essay's long enough.[/QUOTE] i have fingers of fucking lightning typing a billion words a SECOND

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;20011337]You should have said it was the Hindu peace swastika. [img]http://blog.joshuaberman.net/images/birpara/swastika.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] It says Damit