I played an ESP for the first time yesterday.
I really loved the finish it had on it, and I dug the tones I got out of it too.
I was playing it through a marshall stack however, and the guitar itself wasn't cheap
People here seem a little anti ESP it seems
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22572449]have you considered a carvin?[/QUOTE]
Not yet. I'll look now.
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22572449]and no, their customs are WAY better than their ESP standards[/QUOTE]
Ah. The site makes it sound like their deal was the mass production shit was made in Korea or wherever and that was the LTD line, the standards were just better mass production models at some factory in Japan, and customs were the same shit with varying levels of work done from there. Didn't realize you were getting a wholly different job even if you were ordering, say, a "custom" identical to a standard.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;22573163]Not yet. I'll look now.
Ah. The site makes it sound like their deal was the mass production shit was made in Korea or wherever and that was the LTD line, the standards were just better mass production models at some factory in Japan, and customs were the same shit with varying levels of work done from there. Didn't realize you were getting a wholly different job even if you were ordering, say, a "custom" identical to a standard.[/QUOTE]
Yeah the craftmanship is insane with the customs.
The japans are fucking gnarly too.
As for carvin, great guitars man.
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22573247]Yeah the craftmanship is insane with the customs.[/QUOTE]
Well, maybe I'll get a quote anyway just for a laugh. Can't hurt to have a "when you're rich" model, I've the same for every other instrument I own.
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22573247]As for carvin, great guitars man.[/QUOTE]
Checking one up now. Only now I'm getting overwhelmed by options again. Like that extra single pickup. I have no fucking clue why I'd want that, but suddenly I keep thinking BUT MAYBE I DO! FUCK KNOWING WHY, MAYBE IT'S CRUCIAL FOR...SAVING THE WORLD OR SOMETHING!
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Oh, wow, what do you know, all this shit costs more or less the same.
7-String mahogany body, mahogany or maple neck, Gotoh or Grover tuners, Warpigs, and a real FR (or something as good.)
Carvin $1600 + labor (why can’t I get this without their fucking pickups fuck)
Warmoth $1316 + labor (except labor’s going to be at least $200-$400)
Schecter Hellraiser C-7 $1349 + labor (meh Korea quality)
Ibanez S7420 $1300 + labor (I just don't like Ibanez, whoop)
ESP Horizon NT-7 with shitloads of work done- ESP $2229 + laaaaaboooooor (gonna have to concede the FR on that or the seventh string to keep it competitive)
Looks like it’s time for the purchasing methods used when buying my bass- let the cute salesgirl at GC sell me one at random and tweak it later.
Just as an example, seeing as you don't like Ibanez, but you could get a made in Japan Ibanez RG7 for around $400 used, and they are absolutely killer guitars.
The RG7620 has a licensed trem (Ibanez Lo-Pro Edge 7) as good as any OFR I've played (seriously it's an amazing trem, many people say it's the best 7-string trem out there), 1 piece maple neck, basswood body, routes for neck and bridge humbuckers, and Gotoh tuners. So basically the only thing that doesn't meet your requirement is the body being basswood, and you could have a mahogany RG body made up for around $200 ([url]http://www.etguitars.com/[/url] is a very well rep'd guy that can do this), and still have money to spare after buying and having BKPs installed.
I saw a First Act electric guitar being sold at a department store on clearance for $35, should I go and buy it?
[QUOTE=Rageblood;22581239]I saw a First Act electric guitar being sold at a department store on clearance for $35, should I go and buy it?[/QUOTE]
Oh god
Buy it.. though I think it's made of plywood :P
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;22573754]
Oh, wow, what do you know, all this shit costs more or less the same.
7-String mahogany body, mahogany or maple neck, Gotoh or Grover tuners, Warpigs, and a real FR (or something as good.)
Carvin $1600 + labor (why can’t I get this without their fucking pickups fuck)[/QUOTE]
just choose the cheapest ones.
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but hey if you want to choose a korean guitar over an american made guitar be my guest
Anyone do this? I have a cheap Ibanez acoustic and the 1st string keeps popping out so I taped the strings down over the nut. Doesn't sound worse at all and gets rid of the problem.
[QUOTE=Rageblood;22581239]I saw a First Act electric guitar being sold at a department store on clearance for $35, should I go and buy it?[/QUOTE]
Go ahead, they suck, but you might be able to put some good hardware in it.
[QUOTE=Pepin;22584301]Anyone do this? I have a cheap Ibanez acoustic and the 1st string keeps popping out so I taped the strings down over the nut. Doesn't sound worse at all and gets rid of the problem.[/QUOTE]
You could always make the 1st sting hole in the nut a bit deeper, or even simply buy a new nut.
[IMG]http://www.firstqualitymusic.com/images/product/1378/P_1378_L00.jpg[/IMG]
Any news on the quality of this amp?
Compared to other Spiders it blows them out of the water with it's valve powered circuitry. Although you can probably get a much better amp for the money that you would spend on that one.
[QUOTE=Schmaaa;22584543]Go ahead, they suck, but you might be able to put some good hardware in it.[/QUOTE]
For $35, why the hell not?
Cheapest way to tell if you'll actually like the guitar or not, assuming this would be his first guitar.
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[QUOTE=Nonikai;22585547][IMG]http://www.firstqualitymusic.com/images/product/1378/P_1378_L00.jpg[/IMG]
Any news on the quality of this amp?[/QUOTE]
It's okay but there's much better for the same price if you look around.
Its cleans blow other Line 6's out of the water, but that's really not saying much.
Honestly I'd go with a nice big Crate or a smaller Bogner/Bugera instead of getting a Spider Valve 212.
So, I've been thinking of getting myself an acoustic, and realised I haven't a clue what to look for or anything. Anyone wanna point me in the right direction?
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;22592793]So, I've been thinking of getting myself an acoustic, and realised I haven't a clue what to look for or anything. Anyone wanna point me in the right direction?[/QUOTE]
Yamaha FG700s. It's a $200 love machine that should be worth $300. Also, don't get discouraged if you suck BAD at first. It took me like 2-3 months to finally learn my first song.
Oh, I've been playing bass for years now and electric for a couple, so sucking shouldn't be that much of a problem
And thanks, I had a feeling Yamaha would be a good brand to go into for that, but wanted to doublecheck in case there's something I'm overlooking
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22583468]just choose the cheapest ones.[/QUOTE]
They only gave me one option there.
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22583468]but hey if you want to choose a korean guitar over an american made guitar be my guest[/QUOTE]
That was mostly a joke.
If it isn't American, Japanese, or European, I don't trust it. Just an old habit from playing winds.
I'm really only debating between the Carvin and the ESP at this point. It's just nice to see how much extra quality costs across the board.
[QUOTE=Rageblood;22581239]I saw a First Act electric guitar being sold at a department store on clearance for $35, should I go and buy it?[/QUOTE]
It's hilarious how many of these there are on Craigslist. I love those little "amps" they come with that are basically a 90s PC speaker horn driver in a lunchbox.
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;22593302]but wanted to doublecheck in case there's something I'm overlooking[/QUOTE]
If you want to strum alot of chords and play with a pick - steel stringed is recommended.
If you want to play classical/solo music in which you pluck - nylon stringed is recommended.
[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;22592452]For $35, why the hell not?
Cheapest way to tell if you'll actually like the guitar or not, assuming this would be his first guitar.
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Actually I've been playing for 2 years, but thanks for asking. I just want something to mess around and upgrade without breaking other stuff.
In other news gear and shit.
Guitars: Jasmine(Takamine) S35 Acoustic (Started guitar on), Squier Affinity Stratocaster (Black with bridge humbucker, 1st Electric), and a Squier Bullet Strat (Red, got it used for $75 in a filthy condition, but I cleaned up most of it.)
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/GUITAR1.jpg[/img]
Amp: Fender Bullet 150 (Included with the black Strat, works very well on cleans, the built-in effects are nice, but useless with a multi-effects board)
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/GUITAR3.jpg[/img]
Effects: Boss ME-70, Boss DS-1 Distortion, and a FAB pedal.
[img]http://filesmelt.com/dl/GUITAR2.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;22594389]If you want to strum alot of chords and play with a pick - steel stringed is recommended.
If you want to play classical/solo music in which you pluck - nylon stringed is recommended.[/QUOTE]
I'm not really a fan of picks that much, but I do strum a fair bit. I only play with a pick about half the time on my electric
and I've heard that nylons go out of tune easily, to the point of having to retune if you go from one room to another.
[QUOTE=Triumph Forks;22594569]I'm not really a fan of picks that much, but I do strum a fair bit. I only play with a pick about half the time on my electric[/QUOTE]
Not saying anything about you, but I really hate when people act all superior for not using a pick, or think that using a pick means that you suck.
I took so long to learn how to use a pick, I started on classical so it was just weird not using my fingers. I'd say picking is harder :v:
Nylon and steel string acoustics are both great, but they sound very different. You just have to ask yourself what you really want to do with it. Obviously nylon stringed guitars are what you would typically play classical music on, and steel string is what you'd typically play more modern music on.
Personally, I love the sound and feel of nylon strings, for classical finger style and strumming (it almost sounds like it has a natural overdrive to me), but that's probably because I primarily played nylon strings for 5 of the 9 years I've been playing guitar. I'd really like a nice 7 string steel string acoustic for recording with, but I love messing around on my nylon string because it gets a nice sound plucked, strummed, and it is a bit easier on the fingers.
[QUOTE=Rageblood;22594513]Actually I've been playing for 2 years, but thanks for asking. I just want something to mess around and upgrade without breaking other stuff.
In other news gear and shit.
Guitars: Jasmine(Takamine) S35 Acoustic (Started guitar on), Squier Affinity Stratocaster (Black with bridge humbucker, 1st Electric), and a Squier Bullet Strat (Red, got it used for $75 in a filthy condition, but I cleaned up most of it.)
Amp: Fender Bullet 150 (Included with the black Strat, works very well on cleans, the built-in effects are nice, but useless with a multi-effects board)
Effects: Boss ME-70, Boss DS-1 Distortion, and a FAB pedal.
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In that case, if you're willing to shell out the cash and make it a do-it-yourself rewire project I'd go for some Seymour Duncan or DiMarzio pickups in there. As a project guitar you really can't go wrong for $35, I'd be more afraid of damaging the hardware at that point.
[QUOTE=TheGuru;22595092]I took so long to learn how to use a pick, I started on classical so it was just weird not using my fingers. I'd say picking is harder :v:
Nylon and steel string acoustics are both great, but they sound very different. You just have to ask yourself what you really want to do with it. Obviously nylon stringed guitars are what you would typically play classical music on, and steel string is what you'd typically play more modern music on.
Personally, I love the sound and feel of nylon strings, for classical finger style and strumming (it almost sounds like it has a natural overdrive to me), but that's probably because I primarily played nylon strings for 5 of the 9 years I've been playing guitar. I'd really like a nice 7 string steel string acoustic for recording with, but I love messing around on my nylon string because it gets a nice sound plucked, strummed, and it is a bit easier on the fingers.[/QUOTE]
I have had the opposite
I've dropped electric now and I'm going to focus on steel string acoustic, fingerpicking mainly too.
I just think it sounds really awesome, just by having a base note rhymthm and doing chord progressions sounds great to me.
Also I'm going to use these picks from now on
[img]http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/122/8/AAAAAp1eN7oAAAAAASKJvQ.jpg[/img]
pointy ones are cool
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;22597948]
Also I'm going to use these picks from now on
[img]http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/122/8/AAAAAp1eN7oAAAAAASKJvQ.jpg[/img]
pointy ones are cool[/QUOTE]
I'm only using those until the store restocks on Jazz III's. They feel really flimsy. :\
[QUOTE=Nate;22599905]I'm only using those until the store restocks on Jazz III's. They feel really flimsy. :\[/QUOTE]
I don't mean that pick itself
I like thicker ones, that's not mine
[QUOTE=Rad McCool;22600033][img]http://shredacademy.com/catalog/images/jazz3.jpg[/img]
:love:[/QUOTE]
Awesome
1mm is the perfect thickness.
I have no idea about what my preferred thickness is
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