[QUOTE=JoeyZ;22766516] So yes, all ESPs, Jacksons, PRS, Ibbys, and so on aren't quality to me.[/QUOTE]
Bahahah
You have no idea how retarted that statement is.
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22766606]Bahahah
You have no idea how retarted that statement is.[/QUOTE]
I take it you've never played a hand crafted guitar?
All guitar manufacturers do nowadays is throw wood into a CNC mill, sand it, and throw some paint on it.
They don't get that different combinations of wood and wood work can create the most beautiful tones in their guitars.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;22766726]I take it you've never played a hand crafted guitar?
All guitar manufacturers do nowadays is throw wood into a CNC mill, sand it, and throw some paint on it.
They don't get that different combinations of wood and wood work can create the most beautiful tones in their guitars.[/QUOTE]
The fact that you call PRS' alone non-quality guitars is fucking stupid. Prs make their standard (american made) guitars with different wood combinations. Carvin allow you to choose wood combinations. Just because a guitar is made with a CNC machine doesn't make them any less of a guitar. The PRS Custom 24 a buddy of mine has is one of the nicest guitars I have played. Yeah ESP/ibbys use a pretty standard base of woods, but PRS on the other hand. PRS put care into their guitars, they don't just throw paint on them. I'm sorry if your fancy hand crafted guitars are SO fucking superior to every other guitar that you'll just write them off.
I'm having trouble with alternative picking. I just can't seem to do it. Whenever I do it on the upstroke my pick just gets caught on the string and doesn't pick it, it just bends it.
[IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/nf412v.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Dolton;22767040]I'm having trouble with alternative picking. I just can't seem to do it. Whenever I do it on the upstroke my pick just gets caught on the string and doesn't pick it, it just bends it.
[IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/nf412v.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
how thick is the pick?
Make sure you're using the tip of the pick and your not going to high up on the pick. If you aren't, pay attention to that.
Your issue is that you haven't practiced it enough. Alternate picking is tricky at first. Also, change the angle of the pick, Frank Gamble would say a 45 degree angle, but like the above post says, it's a good chance you are just picking low.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;22766726]I take it you've never played a hand crafted guitar?
All guitar manufacturers do nowadays is throw wood into a CNC mill, sand it, and throw some paint on it.
They don't get that different combinations of wood and wood work can create the most beautiful tones in their guitars.[/QUOTE]
Go to [url=http://www.prsguitars.com/detail/index.html]the PRS site[/url] and watch the videos about how they construct their guitars. You'll quickly see it's not simply "throwing wood into a CNC mill" and "throwing paint on it". I agree, the Private Stock PRSs are better quality guitars. But that's obvious, seeing as they cost the same as a car.
ITT
All metal guitars are shit
PRS r bettar
Meh, I think that the music is more important than the instrument. Yeah sure, a better guitar will produce better music and will be easier to play, but it just seems like the focus of a lot of people is more on the guitar than the music.
Well this is a 'guitar discussion' thread so that is likely to be the focus yes
[QUOTE=Pepin;22770884]...but it just seems like the focus of a lot of people is more on the guitar than the music.[/QUOTE]
I like you :)
Gear-talk is so boring. I mean.. who the hell cares? There is so much more to discuss. Like playing techniques, riffs, guitar solos, and guitars and guitar players in general.
Check this out. Syu, member of Galneryus. Super technical. Super awesome!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOp0OLDNVRw[/media]
That guy has mad skill, but I can't say I'm into the music that is the product of his mad skill.
To me he looks kind of like a Asian jimmy page, kinda emulated the dragon suit
[img]http://www.stryder.de/pics/page_dragon2.jpg[/img]
Kinda... Sorta... Maybe...
No not really.
[QUOTE=JoeyZ;22766516]When I say custom, I mean hand made.
So yes, all ESPs, Jacksons, PRS, Ibbys, and so on aren't quality to me.[/QUOTE]
:what:
So even if it is perfectly machined to a higher degree of accuracy than any person could ever hope to achieve, it's still shit?
Bear in mind it's made with all the same gear as you would want on your hand made custom, it would still suck dick in comparison to the hand made?
[QUOTE=Siminov;22765269]Never saw that headstock on a Jackson till now, the hell.
And why not get a trem with that?[/QUOTE]
I actually quite like the headstock.
[QUOTE=En-Guage V2;22770723]ITT
All metal guitars are shit
PRS r bettar[/QUOTE]
Metal guitars as a statement is what drives me to hate them. Engineering a guitar so that its only appropriate for a single genre is absolutely pants on head retarded
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[QUOTE=Siminov;22765269]Never saw that headstock on a Jackson till now, the hell.
And why not get a trem with that?[/QUOTE]
Because not everyone wants a trem?
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[QUOTE=JoeyZ;22766726]I take it you've never played a hand crafted guitar?
All guitar manufacturers do nowadays is throw wood into a CNC mill, sand it, and throw some paint on it.
They don't get that different combinations of wood and wood work can create the most beautiful tones in their guitars.[/QUOTE]
You're an idiot, basing knowledge of "non custom" and "custom" guitars on the cheapest shittiest Chinese sweatshop and a luthier with countless years of experience. You realise that just because something is handmade doesn't make it good right? Just because some berk pored over a guitar doesn't mean that he's good at what he does. And just because PRS rough out the body shapes on their guitars with a CNC doesn't make them cheap and low quality.
Also, "wood combinations" for guitars are not exclusive to handmade guitars. And both "lolol production sheep guitars" and "lovingly handcrafted magnum opuses of natural beauty" require sanding and throwing finish on it.
[QUOTE=Pepin;22767209]Your issue is that you haven't practiced it enough. Alternate picking is tricky at first. Also, change the angle of the pick, Frank Gamble would say a 45 degree angle, but like the above post says, it's a good chance you are just picking low.[/QUOTE]
45 degrees which way? As in parallel or perpendicular to the string?
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22766939]The fact that you call PRS' alone non-quality guitars is fucking stupid. Prs make their standard (american made) guitars with different wood combinations. Carvin allow you to choose wood combinations. Just because a guitar is made with a CNC machine doesn't make them any less of a guitar. The PRS Custom 24 a buddy of mine has is one of the nicest guitars I have played. Yeah ESP/ibbys use a pretty standard base of woods, but PRS on the other hand. PRS put care into their guitars, they don't just throw paint on them. I'm sorry if your fancy hand crafted guitars are SO fucking superior to every other guitar that you'll just write them off.[/QUOTE]
Why are you getting so pissed that I have different standards than you?
[QUOTE=Peavy262;22766939] PRS put care into their guitars, they don't just throw paint on them.[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B-iIbrIMZ0[/media]
PRS is nothing but an assembly line. What makes them seem great is just great quality control.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22771921]:what:
So even if it is perfectly machined to a higher degree of accuracy than any person could ever hope to achieve, it's still shit?
Bear in mind it's made with all the same gear as you would want on your hand made custom, it would still suck dick in comparison to the hand made?[/QUOTE]
Where did you get shit from? No one said shit.
You're making sound like I said that if it not a custom it's the most horrible thing ever made.
Damn, you guys don't get what I'm saying at all.
Sure, hand made guitars can be shitty. Sure, factory guitars can be good.
I prefer hand made guitars because I know it wasn't just some piece of wood coming off the line, and guitar companies can't be bothered to combine different types of woods to create new tones that luthiers have been making for years.
I've played some of the most beautiful sounding guitars, one of which stands out as the best; A hard maple neck thru, pao ferro fret board, maple and walnut ears, and maple wings laminated to a walnut top with ebony.
It had the clearest, brightest tone I've ever heard, and the only thing that ever came close to it's quality was a les paul studio. I just can't be bothered with anything else.
[QUOTE=Dolton;22775186]45 degrees which way? As in parallel or perpendicular to the string?[/QUOTE]
Well according to my geometry skills, it would be the same parallel and perpendicular. Change the angle so that the slant will make it easier to go over the strings. This is what some people will recommend, but you don't have to do is that way. It is very useful to do this when doing sweep picking though.
[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;22773138]Engineering a guitar so that its only appropriate for a single genre is absolutely pants on head retarded[/QUOTE]
Engineering an instrument for a very particular tone which may or may not have other applications isn't, though.
Sometimes it's hard to tell which a company is doing.
[QUOTE=nardix;22778507][img]http://images2.speurders.nl/images/43/4303/43032232_1_large.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
I love the idea of using a mounting ring for the control panel.
I've been working on using four fingers for playing bass. I can do it with rhythms that work out into fours (quarter notes and 16th notes), but doing other stuff is a bit tricky. All about practice, sure if I do this enough it'll be instinctive.
[QUOTE=Pepin;22780893]I've been working on using four fingers for playing bass. I can do it with rhythms that work out into fours (quarter notes and 16th notes), but doing other stuff is a bit tricky. All about practice, sure if I do this enough it'll be instinctive.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/tabs/e/emerson_lake_and_palmer/tarkus_a_eruption_guitar_pro.htm[/url]
Try this if you want to practice all four fingers.
I think SGs look strange with single coils
[QUOTE=Siminov;22765269]Never saw that headstock on a Jackson till now, the hell.
And why not get a trem with that?[/QUOTE]
The headstock is pretty sexy if you ask me ;)
and I don't really like trems, take ages to retune, and I change tunings all the time. A fixed bridge really gives that stability when you feel like playing 2 steps down.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;22778644]Engineering an instrument for a very particular tone which may or may not have other applications isn't, though.
Sometimes it's hard to tell which a company is doing.[/QUOTE]
Even though I have a lot of faith in many guitar companies, somehow I doubt that engineering an instrument to cater to a specific tone involved cutting hideous points into it, painting it none more black, or, if feeling generous, painted in garish decorations and insuring that every one carries a pair of EMG active pickups because they are all which can guarantee a tr00 metul tone.
I agree that sometimes aesthetic choices come about as a means to a tonal end, but I have no faith in this being a designer's intent in most cases
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