Guitar Discussion thread V5 - General

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;24522825]This is now a rule. Would anybody be willing to tell me what they think of some [highlight]Native Instruments[/highlight] Guitar Rig or [u]IK Multimedia[/u] Amplitube models? Because I want to make sure they're semi-believable, otherwise I'm going to go get myself a [i]Line 6[/i] Pod X3 or a [url=http://www.lolbluetext.com]Vox[/url] Tonelab.[/QUOTE] ur link 404'd wut shuld i do [editline]08:21PM[/editline] is dis facebook cus i cant login lol xD

I think Amplitube 3 is better than Guitar Rig 4, but I am just plugging into my mic slot from my Zoom R16.

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;24524209]I think Amplitube 3 is better than Guitar Rig 4, but I am just plugging into my mic slot from my Zoom R16.[/QUOTE] I never understood all of these programms, isn't audacity enough?

My 12 pack of [b]Dunlop[/b] turtoise greens just arrived today. Holy god they're awesomme, I prefer them to the Jazz 3s actually :ohdear:

[QUOTE=Darkslicer;24525480]I never understood all of these programms, isn't audacity enough?[/QUOTE] Nah, they don't record, they're VST effects. Let's say your normal recording setup is an interface going to your computer, with your amp and associated nonsense either plugged into the interface or in front of a mic that is instead. With Guitar Rig (or Amplitube or Ampeg or Peavy's nonsense or Revalver or whatever) you just plug the guitar directly (or maybe with a preamp if it's not a hi-z input) into the interface, and then the effect models your pedals, cabinets, amps, mics, compressors, etc. instead. Basically like what a Pod or modeling pedal does, except software only. You can run them in Audacity, actually, considering it has VST support, but for complex editing Audacity is kinda a rubbish DAW. [editline]05:21PM[/editline] Unrelated, why do I have a...Disturbed stompbox? I don't even use fucking real pedals anymore, why would I want that thing? It tastes like...nu metal. I was going to demo it for a laugh, but the clipping and horrible distortion made me upchuck.

Speaking of pedals, whats a good metal-ish distortion pedal that doesnt just give a kiddy OMG METULSS sort of sound, but a proper 80s metal tone

ProCo RAT or something similar would be good, or just a meaty overdrive pedal

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;24522825]This is now a rule. Would anybody be willing to tell me what they think of some [highlight]Native Instruments[/highlight] Guitar Rig or [U]IK Multimedia[/U] Amplitube models? Because I want to make sure they're semi-believable, otherwise I'm going to go get myself a [I]Line 6[/I] Pod X3 or a [URL="http://www.lolbluetext.com"]Vox[/URL] Tonelab.[/QUOTE] Amplutibe is nice. Has a lot of options and runs really fast. The issue with it is that there is no portability and you'd probably be able to get comparable sounds with the Pod. You can get a 10 day demo of Amplitube so you should probably try it out. Amplitube would be the thing to get if you're just doing stuff at home. I remember reading a link where they tested some knowledgeable guitarist about which was the modeled and what was real and I think only a third could get it right. I'm not certain of that number, but if I find that link again I'll post it. [QUOTE=Darkslicer;24525480]I never understood all of these programms, isn't audacity enough?[/QUOTE] Audacity is terrible for mixing or recording any large projects. Audacity is more an audio editor more than anything, it lacks so many tools for making songs.

Hey, I am actually considering an Iceman ICT700 instead of an RR5 Jackson. I don't know, it just seems so right for me. What do you guys think about the Iceman? [img]http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/48702_l.jpg[/img] [editline]05:10PM[/editline] [QUOTE=tommyc225;24528453]Speaking of pedals, whats a good metal-ish distortion pedal that doesnt just give a kiddy OMG METULSS sort of sound, but a proper 80s metal tone[/QUOTE] TL-2 with good settings will give you pretty good Metallica thrash sound (like the 80's tones), or even United Abominations from Megadeth.

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;24529525]Hey, I am actually considering an Iceman ICT700 instead of an RR5 Jackson. I don't know, it just seems so right for me. What do you guys think about the Iceman? [img_thumb]http://www.dv247.com/assets/products/48702_l.jpg[/img_thumb] [/QUOTE] I think that the Iceman is better than RR5 because I have a bias against Jacksons. Also the Ibanez has Dimarzio D-Activator pickups in it which are very hot.

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;24529525]Hey, I am actually considering an Iceman ICT700 instead of an RR5 Jackson. I don't know, it just seems so right for me. What do you guys think about the Iceman?[/QUOTE] I have a destroyer which is basically the same guitar it's really chunky with distortion really articulate easy to play easy to maintain it is really heavy though great guitar all around though, probably an 8/10 [editline]12:48AM[/editline] the pickups are just as good as any other actives if not better in my opinion plus they aren't battery powered

[QUOTE=absinthe;24530476]I have a destroyer which is basically the same guitar it's really chunky with distortion really articulate easy to play easy to maintain it is really heavy though great guitar all around though, probably an 8/10 [editline]12:48AM[/editline] the pickups are just as good as any other actives if not better in my opinion plus they aren't battery powered[/QUOTE] Yeah, and it is pretty sexy. I don't really like the RR5's gold hardware either. Gonna get me an Iceman!

[QUOTE=Pepin;24528643]Amplutibe is nice. *words*[/QUOTE] Sorry, I appear to have worded that terribly. I already have Amplitube (metal and I think Fender or some other version) and Guitar Rig. I'm asking if anyone in here would be willing to listen to just, like, one rhythm bit, copied across a few models, and tell me if they sound "plastic" or not. Because they do to me. Then again I suppose I'd have to try mixing something with it to really know how it'll sound in action. Nevermind, I guess, I'll just play with 'em a bit more.

Icemans are sick as fuck

I mean you can't go wrong with a guitar that has a cock. [img]http://jammyguitar.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/276068.jpg[/img]

there's only one guitar that looks better than an iceman to me [img]http://www.gear-vault.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/firman-front.jpg[/img]

Found a brand new white one on ebay for ~$825 CAD on ebay since Musician's Friend and Axemusic don't carry them in white D:

[QUOTE=Pepin;24528643]Audacity is terrible for mixing or recording any large projects. Audacity is more an audio editor more than anything, it lacks so many tools for making songs.[/QUOTE] :smith: But I record all my songs with it, and my processor is to bad to run programms like amplitube. I am sad.

Fender Jaguars are far too expensive. No way I can get £700 for one. My Telecaster was £380 and that took all year to save for. Anyone think I can get one pre-owned for under £500 ?

If Ibanez made a 7-string Iceman I'd be all over it

[QUOTE=Darkslicer;24537727]:smith: But I record all my songs with it, and my processor is to bad to run programms like amplitube. I am sad.[/QUOTE] Your processor can barely run Audacity? What the hell kind of CPU do you have?!

[QUOTE=Idioms;24544122]Fender Jaguars are far too expensive. No way I can get £700 for one. My Telecaster was £380 and that took all year to save for. Anyone think I can get one pre-owned for under £500 ?[/QUOTE] Look around on ebay.

[QUOTE=SolidSnake52;24545623]Your processor can barely run Audacity? What the hell kind of CPU do you have?![/QUOTE] Amd athlon 2800+ 2.1Ghz~ Yes I do have an 715€ prs guitar, an expensive equilaizer, expensive amp, expensive drumset, expensive equipment... But I have all that just because I don't buy new clothes, new computer parts or whatever else! (I don't get monthly money from my father because we are very poor)

[QUOTE=Siminov;24532672]I mean you can't go wrong with a guitar that has a cock. [img]http://jammyguitar.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/276068.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] :( Mine: [URL=http://img811.imageshack.us/i/picture6c.jpg/][IMG]http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6628/picture6c.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=http://img826.imageshack.us/i/picture7w.jpg/][IMG]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/3548/picture7w.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

[QUOTE=Darkslicer;24545882]Amd athlon 2800+ 2.1Ghz~ Yes I do have an 715€ prs guitar, an expensive equilaizer, expensive amp, expensive drumset, expensive equipment... But I have all that just because I don't buy new clothes, new computer parts or whatever else! (I don't get monthly money from my father because we are very poor)[/QUOTE] Oh...single core, huh? That explains it. Also I've never seen your drumset but I know I could afford what I could between my job and holidays, although I do get paid pretty well for retail work where I live. Anyway...you might want to make your next investment a homebuilt PC or at least a mid-level pre-assembled desktop so you can run some better recording software. Audacity really is more of a mixer.

Alright, thing I am gonna order the White Iceman today. Why do most stores only carry [B]black[/B] ICEmans?

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;24547095]Alright, thing I am gonna order the White Iceman today. Why do most stores only carry [B]black[/B] ICEmans?[/QUOTE] Good choice :D I love that guitar

[QUOTE=Kab2tract;24547095]Alright, thing I am gonna order the White Iceman today. Why do most stores only carry [B]black[/B] ICEmans?[/QUOTE] because that's what most people want then again most people are retarded too

[QUOTE=Darkslicer;24537727]:smith: But I record all my songs with it, and my processor is to bad to run programms like amplitube. I am sad.[/QUOTE] But... [QUOTE=Darkslicer;24545882]Amd athlon 2800+ 2.1Ghz~ Yes I do have an 715€ prs guitar, [highlight]an expensive equalizer, expensive amp[/highlight][/QUOTE] Why on earth would you want an amp modeling vst if you have a good amp and EQ?

[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;24548204]But... Why on earth would you want an amp modeling vst if you have a good amp and EQ?[/QUOTE] Because the general mentality here seems to be that expensive gear and playing skill are intertwined. :banjo: