[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;24648635]As well as galloping[/QUOTE]For galloping start really, really slow with a metronome. Make sure your technique is perfect at that speed, bump up the metronome by about 10bpm, repeat. If you get things perfect at a really slow tempo and then make them faster, you'll get a much cleaner and accurate technique.
[QUOTE=Epic Sandwich;24648998]For galloping start really, really slow with a metronome. Make sure your technique is perfect at that speed, bump up the metronome by about 10bpm, repeat. If you get things perfect at a really slow tempo and then make them faster, you'll get a much cleaner and accurate technique.[/QUOTE]
thanks, What about using your pinky finger? any tips for that?
I also just found out that if i move my hand to a 45 degree angle instead of a 50 i get a cleaner tone
To get good with your pinky you must use it. Do lots of exercises that involve the pinky.
[QUOTE=TheDestroyerOfall;24648635]As well as galloping[/QUOTE]
Make sure you play gallops like this:
[B]|[/B] D-U-D [B]|[/B] D-U-D [B]|[/B] D-U-D [B]|[/B]
And [I]not[/I] like this:
[B]|[/B] D-U-D [B]|[/B] U-D-U [B]|[/B] D-U-D [B]|[/B]
(U = Up to ceiling / D = Down to floor)
You can do it either way...
Generally you'll get a slightly better tone playing DUDDUDDUD but sometimes you wanna gallop so fast that becomes near impossible and you need to play DUDUDUD
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I am disappointed.
[QUOTE=TheGuru;24656880]You can do it either way...
Generally you'll get a slightly better tone playing DUDDUDDUD but sometimes you wanna gallop so fast that becomes near impossible and you need to play DUDUDUD[/QUOTE]
I've never encountered galloping like that. Not even with slayer have I had to change from DUDDUDDUD
[QUOTE=Nonikai;24662321]I've never encountered galloping like that. Not even with slayer have I had to change from DUDDUDDUD[/QUOTE]
Yeah. DUD-UDU-DUD doesn't make much sense. Could you give us some examples of these hyper fast gallops and why normal technique doesn't work on them?
I don't know any songs in particular but who's to say you can't write you own songs that gallop so fast you need to use another technique? 'Normal' technique is impractical for faster gallops because you have to reset your picking hand to above the string, when that resetting motion could in itself be a pick in the next triplet.
I just don't think you can say DUD UDU DUD is a wrong technique, it's just another option, and a perfectly valid one at that. It's good to be able to do both, it may help with economy picking in riffs that gallop over more than one string.
[QUOTE=TheGuru;24663123]I don't know any songs in particular but who's to say you can't write you own songs that gallop so fast you need to use another technique? 'Normal' technique is impractical for faster gallops because you have to reset your picking hand to above the string, when that resetting motion could in itself be a pick in the next triplet.
I just don't think you can say DUD UDU DUD is a wrong technique, it's just another option, and a perfectly valid one at that. It's good to be able to do both, it may help with economy picking in riffs that gallop over more than one string.[/QUOTE]
There's no such thing as a wrong technique my friend, I was just saying that I can't see it being used so often. I don't know I'd guess it's a matter of playing style
[img]http://www.grafx-design.com/images/redStrat.jpg[/img] I got that one right now, It sucks, but i'm going to buy
[img]http://www.rockpalace.com/gfx_productcode/92010/Ibanez-GRG170DX-Jewel-Blue.jpg[/img] Ibanez <3
[QUOTE=TheGuru;24663123]I don't know any songs in particular but who's to say you can't write you own songs that gallop so fast you need to use another technique? 'Normal' technique is impractical for faster gallops because you have to reset your picking hand to above the string, when that resetting motion could in itself be a pick in the next triplet.
I just don't think you can say DUD UDU DUD is a wrong technique, it's just another option, and a perfectly valid one at that. It's good to be able to do both, it may help with economy picking in riffs that gallop over more than one string.[/QUOTE]
Well the thing is that picking like that doesn't get any more economical, since it means you have to pause your hand all the time. This leads to a very jerky motion that's much harder to control and will probably stress your wrists more. It's like driving a car really fast - you will get the best results just putting the pedal to the metal instead of constantly accelerating and braking. And like you said, you will not get the consistant tone you normally would.
So while the technique might not be [I]wrong[/I], it is much worse by all means and there's no point in utilizing it. (I'm talking about single string-gallops. Multistring gallops are a different subject).
It only sounds [i]very slightly[/i] better to my ears, to the point where on a recording I don't even really think I could tell the difference.
DUD DUD DUD feels more jerky to me to be honest, this is triplets we're talking about, its not like 3 quavers then a quaver rest then 3 quavers, so either way it's not a constant up-down-up-down rhythm.
Personal preference to how you want to play it, but neither is wrong, and you shouldn't tell people either way is wrong. I thought you were a classical guitarist anyway, you should know this.
We're not talking about triplets. They have nothing to do with gallops. It [I]is[/I] 3 quavers then a quaver rest. Well to be honest it's actually 1 quaver, 1 quaver rest, 2 quavers (D DU | D DU | D DU).
Personal preference all the way. But I dare you to find a professional guitarist who play gallops the unorthodox way. Some things are just better to learn correctly right on.
Well Paul Gilbert starts all his phrases on upstrokes, and he's a fucking maniac. I'd say that's pretty unorthodox.
Also yeah it is quavers, mah bad :downs:. Still feels more jerky for me to reset though, but I usually do play DUD DUD. I'm just trying to make a point that nothing is wrong, and everything has its applications.
I am in need of parts help.
Guitar modification project I'm doing requires 3 SPST Mini switches (Single Pole Single Throw), and 2 DPDT (Double Pole Double Throw).
I can get the DPDT's just fine, however finding a SPST mini switch on various guitar sites seems to be downright impossible. The SPST's are for individual switching of the pickups.
So basically, for any brits, where might I find the right switches? (Our RadioShack equivilent is a store called Maplin, fyi.)
Also, I can get SPDT switches, however I don't know if that would work for switching pickups on and off.
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I think we should let the galloping master decide this.
[QUOTE=Nonikai;24665097]1:00
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I think we should let the galloping master decide this.[/QUOTE]
That wasn't very fast galloping at all.
I've never really practice galloping but it seems pretty easy. I'm finding it way easier alternate picking it all, but I that's probably because I've stuck to that technique and it's more unnatural for me not to do it. I think the reason why a lot of people say the DUDDUD pattern sounds better is because the player is more likely to accent the next beginning and 3rd D, as in [U]D[/U]UD[U]D[/U]UD and playing with alternate picking they are less likely to do this naturally. Thanks to Rock Discipline I normally accent the next beat so it sounds exactly like the other way of playing it.
[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;24667443][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTrJcotYKnA&feature=related[/media]
3.26 :byodood:[/QUOTE]
Jesus that's fast.
It reminds me of a squirrel for some reason.
well that's interesting
looks like they took the knobs off a 80s microwave
[QUOTE=Dopey Trout;24667443][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTrJcotYKnA&feature=related[/media]
3.26 :byodood:[/QUOTE]
I challenge your Iced Earth with my Meshuggah
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc[/MEDIA]
Made some improvised while recording melody! (It is quite sad)
Don't mind mistakes or little tiks and toks there, improvised! :smile:
Deep Melody (Turn your volume up a bit, as soundcloud makes the file less loud than it normally is) :
[url]http://soundcloud.com/dekay-snug/deep-melody[/url]
By the way that is my baritone guitar and not a bass!
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Huh double post what the hell
So I just got the beast of a 1x12 Orange cabinet today.
The rumors are true, the bass on this thing is so god damn deep man. I wish I had a bit more gain but fucking hell man the sound on this Dual terror straight through an orange cab. It's meant to be like this.
As for gain for that little extra boost I was thinking if you guys could give some assistance.
Hardwire Tube Overdrive:
[IMG]http://www.tonefactor.com/prodimages/CM2TO.jpg[/IMG]
or
MXR Boost:
[IMG]http://thegearmall.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/mxr-mc-401-cae-boost-line-driver.jpg[/IMG]
I've heard great things about the Tube Overdrive, I just can't decide!
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