Gear discussion thread v. "I got some new gear and I got to post it here" - General

[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;43318986]After a bit of reading it seems that ISO is used because ISO is a standard, ISO100 should be (I bet it isn't) ISO100 regardless of whether you're using a potato or 600D. However internally it all refers to the same thing, sensor gain. But as dB is a relative measurement and there's no standardised reference point for the use of dB in a video context (Which I find baffling! - We have PLENTY in audio) 0dB on one camera will be different to 0dB on another camera. BUT 6dB is the same increase regardless of camera because 6db is 6dB no matter what field you are in: 0dBV is 1V; 6dBV is 2V 0dBm is 1mW; 3dBm is 2mW But, if we had dBISO (That is, dB relative to ISO100) - My made up measurement: 0dB is ISO100, 6dB is ISO 200 As it stands camera A could use ISO 500 as a reference point and 6dB would be ISO1000 whereas camera B could use ISO 50 so 6dB would be ISO 100. Without knowing the camera's reference point for it's gain setting "+6dB" Means nothing. Sorry if this is completely irrelevant to anything I juts found it interesting. :v:[/QUOTE] More info I searched up! [url]http://www.productionapprentice.com/featured/the-truth-about-video-gain-and-how-to-use-it-properly/[/url] [QUOTE] +6dB = Adds 1 F Stop of light +12dB = Adds 2 F Stops of light +18dB = Adds 3 F Stops of light [/QUOTE] Of course the results could be different due to different lenses and sensors and reference point for video gain. In addition it's a known general guideline to never shoot anything over +6dB the same as don't shoot anything over iso 1600 for DSLR video but recent new cameras will pretty much allow you to push to use iso 3200 or even iso 6400 and still get pretty damn good video. The Canon 6D can go up to iso 3200 for video before breaking apart.

Interesting read that, cheers! :)

[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;43318989]does it have warranty??[/QUOTE] nope [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] it's 2 years old [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Roll_Program;43319054]What are you getting, cueball?[/QUOTE] 5D2

[QUOTE=codenamecueball;43319380]nope [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] it's 2 years old [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] 5D2[/QUOTE] Is a 6D better if it costs the same as the 5D2?

[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;43318986]After a bit of reading it seems that ISO is used because ISO is a standard, ISO100 should be (I bet it isn't) ISO100 regardless of whether you're using a potato or 600D. However internally it all refers to the same thing, sensor gain. But as dB is a relative measurement and there's no standardised reference point for the use of dB in a video context (Which I find baffling! - We have PLENTY in audio) 0dB on one camera will be different to 0dB on another camera. BUT 6dB is the same increase regardless of camera because 6db is 6dB no matter what field you are in: 0dBV is 1V; 6dBV is 2V 0dBm is 1mW; 3dBm is 2mW But, if we had dBISO (That is, dB relative to ISO100) - My made up measurement: 0dB is ISO100, 6dB is ISO 200 As it stands camera A could use ISO 500 as a reference point and 6dB would be ISO1000 whereas camera B could use ISO 50 so 6dB would be ISO 100. Without knowing the camera's reference point for it's gain setting "+6dB" Means nothing. Sorry if this is completely irrelevant to anything I juts found it interesting. :v:[/QUOTE] ISO is meant to be a standard, but most manufacturers don't measure the same. Like for each camera the stops will be different (100 to 200 will be 1 stop for everyone), but all their ISO 100's might not let in the same amount of light. They do this so their high ISO numbers have less noise, because in reality they are using a lower exposure. I've seen a lot of criticism for Fuji in this regard, but I assume it's blown out of proportion.

The lowest iso the sensor can go is another, gh3 lowest iso which is probably the base iso is 200

[QUOTE=garychencool;43320018]Is a 6D better if it costs the same as the 5D2?[/QUOTE] In most regards, definitiely.

[QUOTE=garychencool;43320018]Is a 6D better if it costs the same as the 5D2?[/QUOTE] for sure

Just got my 18mm f/2 picked up, woo. Makes carrying my camera around so much easier, so light and compact. [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=codenamecueball;43323198]for sure[/QUOTE] Why not get a 6D then?

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;43324297] Why not get a 6D then?[/QUOTE] Depends on the user and what they want. Some would want the 5D2 for the magic lantern and raw video recording support. It will make it to the 6D eventually though.

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;43324297]Just got my 18mm f/2 picked up, woo. Makes carrying my camera around so much easier, so light and compact. [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] Why not get a 6D then?[/QUOTE] the 5D2 is an excellent price. [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=garychencool;43324793]Depends on the user and what they want. Some would want the 5D2 for the magic lantern and raw video recording support. It will make it to the 6D eventually though.[/QUOTE] also this, i'm starting to really get a love of the raw video. [url]https://vimeo.com/82422664[/url] - pw is raw [url]https://vimeo.com/82745689[/url] - pw is lut, video isn't about raw video but taking a raw image (for quality and speed) and applying lookup tables. [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] a practice i could apply to say, raw video

Is it worth it even if you can't get full 1080p?

[QUOTE=Roll_Program;43324967]Is it worth it even if you can't get full 1080p?[/QUOTE] yes. i can always scale down to 720p and get a vastly improved image, or upres a few px to 1920 wide. the 1080 height isn't important as i can use 2.67:1 ratio and get the filmic image we all desire. the dynamic range improvements and finer control of whitebalance and other things is seriously an improvement in overall image quality. 5 years ago you could only have dreamed of this kind of control, when you shot 4:2:0 1440x1080 HD on a sony FX1 and the closest to 'cinema' you got was cropping in post.

You can upscale the raw 720p to 1080p and some say it looked better

wow this d7100 is bigger than I expected and the rear screen is way bigger than I thought [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] the shutter is also extremely quiet compared to the 3xxx and 5xxx cameras. still struggling to get used to the controls [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] shutter count is under 1400 which is cool, less than i had on the 5200

Selling my 5D3 (don't really do as much video or sport shooting to warrant it), and looking at getting the 6D or new A7/R. Thoughts? Mainly being used for studio and magazine work, so opinions wanted!

[QUOTE=matreox;43329450]Selling my 5D3 (don't really do as much video or sport shooting to warrant it), and looking at getting the 6D or new A7/R. Thoughts? Mainly being used for studio and magazine work, so opinions wanted![/QUOTE] I mean i have never used one but the A7r seems like a good studio camera

[QUOTE=dwt110;43329594]I mean i have never used one but the A7r seems like a good studio camera[/QUOTE] Yeah that's what I was thinking, better dynamic range, higher res, none of the Canon shadow banding. Only problem is the lenses, I know you can get an adapter (but it's like £300 by itself) and it hampers focusing + other problems. The native selection isn't that big currently :/

but in a studio its not like you need to focus super quickly since mostly everything is under your control

[QUOTE=dwt110;43329653]but in a studio its not like you need to focus super quickly since mostly everything is under your control[/QUOTE] True, would be nice to be able to take it out too though to the occasional party/outdoor shoot.

[QUOTE=dwt110;43326532]wow this d7100 is bigger than I expected and the rear screen is way bigger than I thought [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] the shutter is also extremely quiet compared to the 3xxx and 5xxx cameras. still struggling to get used to the controls [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] shutter count is under 1400 which is cool, less than i had on the 5200[/QUOTE] You'll figure it out eventually. I just love the additional dials, no more pressing alt to change aperture in manual or exposure compensation in everything else.

it took me 2 hours to realize there was a dial under the shutter button. i still have no idea how to change the AF points. my 5200 did 39, 21, 11, and 9 or something. all I can find in this is 51 and 11 [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] im in love with the top LCD screen. still not used to the rear LCD not doing shit when I half press the shutter or pictures popping up right after I take them [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] and the info button now is where the garbage was on the 5200. really loving the DOF preview and 1.3x crop mode. only complaint is my shutter button right now is kinda soft and doesnt have a very definite stop or click

All of the high end cameras have that kind of shutter button You'll get used to the lack of tactile feedback.

should I learn to use back button focusing? it seems helpful as I tried it briefly but it's awkwardly placed and my thumb has to really reach for it.

okay im 99% sure that something is wrong with the en-el15 that came with my camera. it came at 15% charged, so I left it on the charger for like an hour or two, and I pulled it off because the light wasnt flashing which means it is done. I turn on the camera and it is at 20%. I go and throw it back on the charger for 3 or 4 hours and it says it isnt done, so I pull it out, plug it into the camera and it says like 15% or something. so I put it back into the charger, and it says its done, then I reinsert it and it says it is still charging do I contact nikon or the retailer I got it from? [editline]28th December 2013[/editline] it looks obviously used but the camera says it is perfect condition

nikon [editline]28th December 2013[/editline] try retailer first though, they might just replace it there and then

ugh i hope i dont have to mail it back so they can inspect it i cant do it in person though with the retailer, I got the camera online

I've never found a reason to use more than the central AF point.

Really hoping my EOS 3000 arrives today so I can stop using my Afga Silette and get some in-focus photos...

[QUOTE=dwt110;43330130]it took me 2 hours to realize there was a dial under the shutter button. i still have no idea how to change the AF points. my 5200 did 39, 21, 11, and 9 or something. all I can find in this is 51 and 11 [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] im in love with the top LCD screen. still not used to the rear LCD not doing shit when I half press the shutter or pictures popping up right after I take them [editline]27th December 2013[/editline] and the info button now is where the garbage was on the 5200. really loving the DOF preview and 1.3x crop mode. only complaint is my shutter button right now is kinda soft and doesnt have a very definite stop or click[/QUOTE] The soft button is really common and stops camera shake from the actual button press if you press it lightly. You change the AF points by pressing the the focusing mode button then spinning one of the wheels until the mode you want is selected then use the d pad to select which individual point you want. Then you read the fucking manual. [editline]28th December 2013[/editline] Seriously it 2 hours to notice the wheel that changes aperture?