Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread - ANTS - General

[QUOTE=spog;50346208]Mystique ain't blue as per fucking usual [I]that's[/I] the significant difference[/QUOTE] I watched First Class again tonight in preparation for Apocalypse. This scene was incredibly relevant to all the promo material I've seen so far. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csii_f5f204[/media] They want us to accept X-men: Apocalypse, when they won't even accept it themselves. [sp]seriously there better be a damn good reason why Mystique is so fleshy, and it better not be that 'JLaw didn't want to sit in make-up for hours'[/sp]

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;50346133]spot the difference [img]https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/13239464_1050083578396390_5673017037670652573_n.jpg?oh=45b8956ed300e6026eee676b59515db1&oe=57DD88DB&__gda__=1474060652_829cd88290808165149598ae9530d345[/img][/QUOTE] [b]I FIGURED IT OUT.[/b] It's because it's so obvious that all the actors are just standing in front of a green screen. Look at Jean, Angel, Magneto... all flat feet. It doesn't look like they're flying, it looks like they're standing up in midair. THAT'S why it looks so goddamn off. [editline]18th May 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Menien Goneld;50347949] [sp]seriously there better be a damn good reason why Mystique is so fleshy, and it better not be that 'JLaw didn't want to sit in make-up for hours'[/sp][/QUOTE] That might be the reason.

that's definitely the reason. also, jean is the only one with wrong feet.

So... in the realms of Asgard and the such, is Earth the only one with an entire universe? Whenever the Asgardians are brought up, it's one planet, one place, same with the eight other areas.

[QUOTE=27X;50347184]Blade and Moon Knight I can see, GR is pretty much out-of-budget territory unless we're talking movie.[/QUOTE] Ghost Rider show where his head burns only in the last episode. Before it he wears a paper bag with a flame painted on it

[QUOTE=Menien Goneld;50347949] [sp]seriously there better be a damn good reason why Mystique is so fleshy, and it better not be that 'JLaw didn't want to sit in make-up for hours'[/sp][/QUOTE] That is exactly the reason why. She has enough pull at this point that she can dictate her "costume".

[QUOTE=Menien Goneld;50347949][sp]seriously there better be a damn good reason why Mystique is so fleshy, and it better not be that 'JLaw didn't want to sit in make-up for hours'[/sp][/QUOTE] Pretty sure I saw a Graham Norton clip where she said something along the lines of "they found out I didn't need to do the hours of makeup" or something.

In hindsight with Civil War, I wonder what Zemo's plan was if [sp]the HYDRA colonel he got the red book from gave in and told him the mission report right then and there. He set the bomb off at the UN and drew out Bucky just so he can ask him instead (as said to the colonel, "if you don't tell me, I'll have to use this" referring to the book). This in turn, led Bucky to tell the Avengers that Zemo was going to Siberia. So...what if the colonel in Cleveland had spilled the beans?[/sp] Food for thought :v:

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50348849]In hindsight with Civil War, I wonder what Zemo's plan was if [sp]the HYDRA colonel he got the red book from gave in and told him the mission report right then and there. He set the bomb off at the UN and drew out Bucky just so he can ask him instead (as said to the colonel, "if you don't tell me, I'll have to use this" referring to the book). This in turn, led Bucky to tell the Avengers that Zemo was going to Siberia. So...what if the colonel in Cleveland had spilled the beans?[/sp] Food for thought :v:[/QUOTE] I'm assuming he would have [sp]framed Bucky for something anyway, then leaked the video of the Starks getting offed to Tony somehow. His whole plan was to tear the Avengers apart, and for the Stark video to have any lasting effect, he'd have to unveil it when Bucky-related tensions were already high. Framing him didn't just draw him out, but it also started a conflict between Steve and the rest of his team that destabilized Tony enough to the point that seeing the video would send him into a murderous rage rather than a mild case of shock; he needed him stressed enough that he'd be beyond getting talked down.[/sp]

[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;50348891]I'm assuming he would have [sp]framed Bucky for something anyway, then leaked the video of the Starks getting offed to Tony somehow. His whole plan was to tear the Avengers apart, and for the Stark video to have any lasting effect, he'd have to unveil it when Bucky-related tensions were already high. Framing him didn't just draw him out, but it also started a conflict between Steve and the rest of his team that destabilized Tony enough to the point that seeing the video would send him into a murderous rage rather than a mild case of shock; he needed him stressed enough that he'd be beyond getting talked down.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]That plan takes under consideration a LOT of assumptions. It assumes Bucky wouldn't be killed when he's drawn out, it assumes Rogers would go rogue to save him (what if Rogers did sign the accord, which happened after Zemo talked to the colenel? He wouldn't have been 'locked' in an office during Bucky's interrogation). For someone with 'experience and patience', his plan has a lot of potential leaks to sink it. Plus there's a chance that Ironman/the others would just capture Rogers and Bucky at any point in their trek, like the airport - I seriously doubt Zemo put his chips in Black Widow turning to help Cap escape. Not to mention Zemo had no anticipation that Black Panther would become part of this.[/sp]

[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50347513]Its a skull and some fire, how expensive can it really be in this day and age[/QUOTE] They also have to do the entire motorbike and make all of it look good I don't see them going for it tbh

[QUOTE=DuCT;50348372]That is exactly the reason why. She has enough pull at this point that she can dictate her "costume".[/QUOTE] Actually she's allergic

[QUOTE=Flyingman356;50349383]Actually she's allergic[/QUOTE] to displaying emotions

[QUOTE=Flyingman356;50349383]Actually she's allergic[/QUOTE] Is the official excuse, the actual reason is JLaw is huge right now so they want as many people to see her face as possible/she didn't want to sit for hours in makeup.

Is this apocalypse guy much worse than those sentinel things from the last movie? Those sentinels were fucking scary: [t]http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/x-men/images/a/a2/Sentinel_Mark_10.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141102021821[/t]

[QUOTE=DuCT;50348372]That is exactly the reason why. She has enough pull at this point that she can dictate her "costume".[/QUOTE] That's why they made a suit for her that imitates the makeup (I think you can even see the sleeves in one of the trailers). She isn't appearing blue in promotional stuff because her face sells, like you said

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50349136][sp]That plan takes under consideration a LOT of assumptions. It assumes Bucky wouldn't be killed when he's drawn out, it assumes Rogers would go rogue to save him (what if Rogers did sign the accord, which happened after Zemo talked to the colenel? He wouldn't have been 'locked' in an office during Bucky's interrogation). For someone with 'experience and patience', his plan has a lot of potential leaks to sink it. Plus there's a chance that Ironman/the others would just capture Rogers and Bucky at any point in their trek, like the airport - I seriously doubt Zemo put his chips in Black Widow turning to help Cap escape. Not to mention Zemo had no anticipation that Black Panther would become part of this.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]To be honest, if you're going to risk your whole plan on one thing, it's not a bad idea to risk it all on Steve Rogers doing the 'right thing' despite the consequences and going rogue to save his friend is pretty much what he did in Winter Soldier anyway. Everything about his character makes him super predictable; he's the embodiment of old fashioned values and is literally a walking moral compass. Obviously Zemo had no idea about Black Panther, Spider-Man or Ant-Man joining the fight, and doesn't really know how it's going to work out, but anyone with as much of a knowledge of the Avengers as he claims to have would know that Steve isn't the 'give up' type. Basically, you don't really need to know the specifics of the situation (Black Panther joining the fight, Black Widow turning to Cap's side etc) when you have a super-soldier with perfect morals and a strong relationship with Bucky. Even if things hadn't have worked out exactly as they did, there's no way that Cap would a)let Bucky come to harm if he can save him without casualties and b)let a winter soldier death squad exist[/sp]

[QUOTE=Flyingman356;50349383]Actually she's allergic[/QUOTE] i've looked this up before and she's only said that in one interview. she's even complained about the paint a couple of other times without bringing it up at all

The biggest questions are [sp] where did the Soviets get a color video tape in 1991 of some random dirt road that shows the Winter Soldier crashing/killing the Starks? And how does Tony even recognize the blurred footage as containing a road he's been on? [/sp]

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;50351079]The biggest questions are [sp] where did the Soviets get a color video tape in 1991 of some random dirt road that shows the Winter Soldier crashing/killing the Starks? And how does Tony even recognize the blurred footage as containing a road he's been on? [/sp][/QUOTE] I'm pretty certain [sp]Tony would be more than familiar with the road his parents died on, especially that specific location. If shown a mile down he probably wouldn't have recognized it.[/sp] As for the first question....plot device! :v:

[QUOTE=Menien Goneld;50350602][sp]To be honest, if you're going to risk your whole plan on one thing, it's not a bad idea to risk it all on Steve Rogers doing the 'right thing' despite the consequences and going rogue to save his friend is pretty much what he did in Winter Soldier anyway. Everything about his character makes him super predictable; he's the embodiment of old fashioned values and is literally a walking moral compass. Obviously Zemo had no idea about Black Panther, Spider-Man or Ant-Man joining the fight, and doesn't really know how it's going to work out, but anyone with as much of a knowledge of the Avengers as he claims to have would know that Steve isn't the 'give up' type. Basically, you don't really need to know the specifics of the situation (Black Panther joining the fight, Black Widow turning to Cap's side etc) when you have a super-soldier with perfect morals and a strong relationship with Bucky. Even if things hadn't have worked out exactly as they did, there's no way that Cap would a)let Bucky come to harm if he can save him without casualties and b)let a winter soldier death squad exist[/sp][/QUOTE] Not to mention, [sp]assume Steve DID just sign the accords. Now we've got the Avengers under UN control. Sure would put a damper on the whole arrangement if something made Tony Stark mad enough to break UN Sanction and murder Bucky Barnes in cold blood, huh? Now the roles are reversed, with Iron Man as the outlaw and Steve wanting revenge. Either way, they come to blows. Either way, Zemo has changed the Avengers forever.[/sp]

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;50351079]The biggest questions are [sp] where did the Soviets get a color video tape in 1991 of some random dirt road that shows the Winter Soldier crashing/killing the Starks? And how does Tony even recognize the blurred footage as containing a road he's been on? [/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]these are the guys that infiltrated shield and made political assassinations look like accidents, not to mention arnim zola uploaded his consciousness into a machine some 60 years before iron man took flight. i think they have no problem getting a color street camera, especially considering it was a setup.[/sp]

[URL="http://variety.com/2016/film/news/spider-man-michael-keaton-villain-1201770783/"]Michael Keaton back in talks for Spider-Man: Homecoming villain[/URL]

still waiting on talks with jk simmons

I'd rather have Keaton be the new JJJ since they probably won't get Simmons back.

[IMG]http://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/40/573f502b0fd8c.jpg[/IMG] [URL="http://marvel.com/news/movies/26203/marvel_studios_confirms_stellar_new_cast_members_of_the_highly_anticipated_thor_ragnarok#ixzz49DkA8xap"]Marvel Studios Confirms Stellar New Cast Members of the Highly Anticipated 'Thor: Ragnarok'[/URL] Cate Blanchett is playing Hela Jeff Goldblum is playing Grandmaster Tessa Thompson is playing Valkyrie Karl Urban is playing Skurge And Hopkins is confirmed as returning

about time karl urban got into the mcu too bad it's as a villain who's probably going to be killed off and never used again

Holy shit Mark Ruffalo also confirmed for Ragnarok.

[QUOTE=Y U NO OBJECT;50358357][URL="http://variety.com/2016/film/news/spider-man-michael-keaton-villain-1201770783/"]Michael Keaton back in talks for Spider-Man: Homecoming villain[/URL][/QUOTE] Isn't the villain venom in the comic? Why would Keaton be Eddie Brock?

[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;50359261]Holy shit Mark Ruffalo also confirmed for Ragnarok.[/QUOTE] Hasn't that been known for a while? [sp]It was even referenced in Cap 3[/sp]