• Marvel Cinematic Universe Thread - ANTS
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Considering what his character is and does he's really that far off. His character's entire Marvel Cinematic context is literally the guy who can make mulligans happen, and he has a one off speech about doing the right thing under duress. Imagine you just came off spending a night in Robben Island locked in the same room as Nelson Mandella and now you're giving a spoiled brat with god powers a pep talk about stiff upper lip. You don't think that would be [I]slightly[/I] annoying?
Oh no I agree completely with both his sentiment and your posts, I'm more surprised there wasn't more flak from the studio themselves.
He did? I hadn't heard about that.
apparently he was in black swan and hot tub time machine. i know exactly who he was in both of those movies, and if i hadn't read it i never would have made that connection. so yeah, he is birdman.
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Sebastian Stan might be trapped into only being recognisable for his MCU role, but he's in a 9 movie deal playing one of the biggest characters in current Marvel. If they make him Captain America, he'd be such a lead role I'm sure he'd be on the big bucks - the kind that would give him the freedom to do whatever he wanted creatively after. It's a much better deal than being Heimdall, although honestly I don't have a lot of sympathy for Elba, a lot of actors would love that role and all that shit about "the extras were calling me Madiba on set" just seems egotistical.
[QUOTE=Butthurter;50382456][url]http://www.vulture.com/2016/05/captain-america-sebastian-stan-birdman.html[/url][/QUOTE] I dunno, I don't feel like he did anywhere near push himself into career suicide? He's in a nine-picture deal, [i]and[/i] it's his most recognizable part. Birdman just happens to call attention to the sort of thing that does actually happen; Alec Guinness disliked Star Wars because he was proud of his other parts but after that, he was just Ben Kenobi. William Shatner hasn't really done anything noteworthy (or maybe he has?) but it doesn't matter because he's Captain Kirk. iirc, Patrick Stewart worried about this too, and tried to take better care with his acting career so he didn't just stay Captain Picard.
Didn't the Falcon actor also say Marvel movies are bad or something?
I doubt Anthony Mackie would say that, he genuinely seems to love playing Falcon.
I was gonna say, he seems like one of the most enthusiastic about starring in Marvel films.
I wonder what all Disney can lend marvel Netflix... I'd love if Sony played ball and put up Tobey spiderman or the 90s spiderman show [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] Does FOX own the old X-Men cartoons?
Watching AoS, how come they're able to say "Ironman" and "Battle of New York" while JJ/DD can only say shit like "the incident", "the green guy", "the flag-waver"?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50384818]Watching AoS, how come they're able to say "Ironman" and "Battle of New York" while JJ/DD can only say shit like "the incident", "the green guy", "the flag-waver"?[/QUOTE] I think it's just a matter of the shows not wanting to piggy-back off the movies, so instead of straight up name-dropping stuff, they just allude to it.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50384818]Watching AoS, how come they're able to say "Ironman" and "Battle of New York" while JJ/DD can only say shit like "the incident", "the green guy", "the flag-waver"?[/QUOTE] AoS only exists to be an extension of the movies, the Netflix shows are actually trying to tell a good story.
[QUOTE=Gar;50384891]AoS only exists to be an extension of the movies, the Netflix shows are actually trying to tell a good story.[/QUOTE] They're suppose to be part of the same universe, that's pretty dumb. Each thing is only briefly mentioned once or twice at any rate, it's not as if it's dominating the show's story.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50384900]They're suppose to be part of the same universe, that's pretty dumb. Each thing is only briefly mentioned once or twice at any rate, it's not as if it's dominating the show's story.[/QUOTE] Well, Rats actually said it better. But namedropping does carry a lot of weight, especially if they actually said Hulk or Captain America. The Netflix shows establish their own tone, their own style. It wouldn't dominate their story, but it would still be more jarring to the viewers (least, imo and probably the producer's opinion.)
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50384818]Watching AoS, how come they're able to say "Ironman" and "Battle of New York" while JJ/DD can only say shit like "the incident", "the green guy", "the flag-waver"?[/QUOTE] The Netflix stuff is compelling enough on its own, but AoS needs to go "REMEMBER RDJ? AND AVENGERS?" to keep people interested.
Pretty sure they can name drop Ironman or Cap America once or twice a season and comfortably survive being viewed as focusing on the movies too much. [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] They allude to them I think once in DD season 1 and JJ season 1, each. Nothing in season 2 for DD. Why not just say it outright and move on?
Captain America was in Jessica Jones. Sure, it was actually a kid in a costume but it was still very direct.
Shield is directly involved with the events, a blind lawyer and a detective aren't
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50385117]Pretty sure they can name drop Ironman or Cap America once or twice a season and comfortably survive being viewed as focusing on the movies too much. [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] They allude to them I think once in DD season 1 and JJ season 1, each. Nothing in season 2 for DD. Why not just say it outright and move on?[/QUOTE] they're just trying to make it sound more natural
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;50385359]they're just trying to make it sound more natural[/QUOTE] Referring to New York as "the Incident" sounds fine, but "Flag-Waver or the Green One" doesn't. At least not when both names are allusions. Could have been better if it were "Captain America or the Green One" or "The Flag-Waver and the Hulk".
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50385591]Referring to New York as "the Incident" sounds fine, but "Flag-Waver or the Green One" doesn't. At least not when both names are allusions. Could have been better if it were "Captain America or the Green One" or "The Flag-Waver and the Hulk".[/QUOTE] i'm not saying they do a good job of sounding natural, just that it's obvious that it's why they're there
Anyone got marvel unlimited? How is it?
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50385320]Shield is directly involved with the events, a blind lawyer and a detective aren't[/QUOTE] The point of the shows is to let us know that the avengers aren't the only players out there.
Yeah but they don't need to know every detail about each other possible. I don't even know how this complain came about, I specifically remember foggy mentioning Thor and cap by name and there's no way hulk sat down for a press interview. Why should the public know everything the audience does? A lot of it makes sense, some of the events such as Detroit hulk vs abomination were kept under wraps. [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] Like, shield is the avengers handler/backer basically. They're government program who's purpose is to know and suppress info about those heroes and try to direct them. Why shouldn't they know more than two average people that happen to be hero characters? [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] They literally formed the avengers and it's name came from one of their initiatives
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50385878]Yeah but they don't need to know every detail about each other possible. I don't even know how this complain came about, I specifically remember foggy mentioning Thor and cap by name and there's no way hulk sat down for a press interview. Why should the public know everything the audience does? A lot of it makes sense, some of the events such as Detroit hulk vs abomination were kept under wraps. [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] Like, shield is the avengers handler/backer basically. They're government program who's purpose is to know and suppress info about those heroes and try to direct them. Why shouldn't they know more than two average people that happen to be hero characters? [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] They literally formed the avengers and it's name came from one of their initiatives[/QUOTE] First episode of AoS shows a little kid looking at Thor, Ironman, Cap, and Hulk toys. There's a little kid in a Cap costume in JJ. The Avengers are not kept under wraps. The public know a lot about them.
I didn't say they are [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] Hell looking at the papers again it does name Hulk. What was your point? [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] You want randomly inserted plugs for avengers in shows that aren't about the organization that's sole purpose is to interact with them? [editline]24th May 2016[/editline] "Allude once" aka mention them by name, reference the New York fight and have a newspaper about the hulk movie climax in the background of most of the episodes
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50385793]Anyone got marvel unlimited? How is it?[/QUOTE] I had it for a while, it was alright, pretty good even. The price is reasonable considering how expensive comic books are to actually buy; I remember seeing books in shops that I'd read on a whim that cost like, double the price of a month's subscription to buy physically. They have curated sections so you can catch up and read the highlights of a particular character (back when I had it, they had lots of Ant-Man stuff on since that was soon to be released), so it's good if you want to learn about particular characters and stuff. I read graphic novels really quickly, so it always felt like great value to me because I had several stories on the go at all times, stuff that would have cost me a lot of cash to actually read IRL. There were only two major gripes that I had with the service. Firstly, they don't put the most recent stuff on there. I think it's a combination of trying to make the most of print sales, and also that it takes a while to 'digitise' comics, but yeah, you will not be up to date with recent comic events if that's your only source of comics (which it was for me because I'm broke AF). I've read that it's only six months old stuff they put up, so if that's too out of date for you or the stuff that you're looking to read, yeah, maybe it's not for you (although it will all get added eventually). The second issue I had with it was that the app and the website weren't great. It was difficult to navigate, and sometimes it would only load the first page and then I would have to exit the issue and re-enter for it to load the rest. Honestly though, the only reason I cancelled it was because I was spending too much monthly (and now that I read into it again to answer your question, I'm debating getting another sub).
I'm thinking of getting the plus sub, $99 a year and some bonus goodies. I already spend $70 on shit every time that results in serious buyers remorse.
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