[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50636308]I think that civil war actually sets a pretty good precedent for xmen to arrive.
We see public opinion of supers going bad. Insert X-men, people born super like a race, they're in a more suburban environment than untouchable government funded heroes like the avengers. It's not unlikely a person would treat mutants like shit if they already dislike the avengers, and the mutants are usually more out in the open than other supers.
The parralel of racism could still work, especially after civil war, not just because super powered people are less loved, but Spider-man being in the MCU means the press notion of "HEROES ARE A MENACE" from daily bugle will enter the fray and add fuel to tensions against people with powers.
This is the perfect time to introduce them TBH.[/QUOTE]
I agree with all of this, but I just can't get my head around how they explain Magneto. Him being a holocaust survivor is super important and very compelling, but how can you have that without either him not being a mutant or just not doing -anything- for the majority of his life?
It's also coincidentally my biggest gripe with the first X-Men movie. Yes, even bigger than the 'turbo mode' motorbike. What I can't get my head around is just [I]why[/I] Magneto waits until he is practically geriatric to start his 'movement'.
I can't help but think that the MCU would either not have him be a holocaust survivor, or they'd make it a Hydra thing or something.
Magneto in Hydra?
(after Hydra has been 'destroyed', at that?)
Nah, it would be better to introduce the brotherhood. I suppose they could be written as a hydra experiment.
If Marvel has to compromise with Fox, telling fix they can keep the xmen while Marvel gets very thing from the fantastic four et al.
Phase four Galactus. Make it happen!
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;50644559]Magneto in Hydra?
(after Hydra has been 'destroyed', at that?)[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean that Magneto was a part of Hydra, more like they would involve Hydra somehow. Captain America was set in WW2 and obviously they couldn't just have Nazis because that's way too dark, so they have Hydra, and there you go it's a fun comic book conflict. It's always been super serious with Magneto though, and I just don't see it working. Even in X-Men Apocalypse, [sp] that whole Auschwitz sequence was bizarre with silly purple shouty man being there[/sp].
They could say that Mags was detained and tested on by Hydra or something if they wanted to do a new version of the character, update it a little, but I think the backstory loses a lot of weight if it's not tied to such a real and horrible event.
Just finished Agents of Shield season 3.
holy fuck that last minute.
[sp]I was wanting Tremors to do that forever.[/sp]
[editline]4th July 2016[/editline]
oh hey that was my 5000th post
I'd like to see something where magneto and maybe namor detained by hydra in the 40's and by experimenting on them discover a way to activate dormant x genes similar to terragin mists. Then have something going wrong causing it to spread worldwide allowing a large amount of mutants to appear suddenly and giving magneto a reason to hate humans and Atlantis to be hostile.
Honestly, I like both MCU and Xmen separate. MCU is its own thing. It wouldn't be improved by adding the Xmen in my opinion.
I do think it would be improved by Doctor Doom, but I've never had much love for the Fantastic Four. Even so, their inclusion makes a lot more sense to me.
i would be fine with fox selling f4 back to disney, even if it meant no x-men crossover, because quite frankly marvel is the only company who can do the f4 right.
Seeing how awful the last movie performed, it's only a matter of time
I'd love to see the Fantastic 4 returned to Marvel, they've an insane amount of potential with space, dimensional and family adventures and probably the best Marvel villain gallery.
Having them kick off Phase 4 would be amazing.
[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;50656223]Seeing how awful the last movie performed, it's only a matter of time[/QUOTE]
The point of producing that movie was to stop the contract from going back to marvel
[editline]6th July 2016[/editline]
They're required to make one every 10 years or they lose it
[media]http://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/750774146414415873[/media]
Hopefully this means Skrulls are showing up in GoTG 2.
[QUOTE=Fangz;50661322][media]http://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/750774146414415873[/media]
Hopefully this means Skrulls are showing up in GoTG 2.[/QUOTE]
OH.
[b]FUCK.[/b]
Specific Skrulls meaning? I don't know any Skrulls by name besides Super Skrull, which of course wouldn't be in MCU
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50663292]Specific Skrulls meaning? I don't know any Skrulls by name besides Super Skrull, which of course wouldn't be in MCU[/QUOTE]
Lyja was a skrull who transformed into alicia masters, the thing's gf, and became the human torch's gf instead. But it was only involved with the FF.
They could explore the kree-skrull wars, they have always been enemies in the comics. But for specific villains, I can't remember many. There was one called Paibok, but I can't remember what he did. And the skrull beyonder, it was half a skrull on top of a wheeled computer.
Kree are fox's, they had to be replaced with Sakaarans (GotG)
The aliens in GotG would've been Kree if not for that
Edit:
Oh come on guys :( it was just a mixup
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50663668]Kree are fox's, they had to be replaced with Sakaarans (GotG)
The aliens in GotG would've been Kree if not for that[/QUOTE]
Ronan is a fucking Kree. Blue skin and all
Is he? I recall James gunn or someone saying the Sakaarans replace some race and I thought it was kree
[editline]7th July 2016[/editline]
Oh it's Badoon my bad
[editline]7th July 2016[/editline]
Yeah I read Kree and got them mixed up. Badoon are in FF early issues or something iirc so they had to replace them with Sakaarans.
[editline]7th July 2016[/editline]
"Marvel only partially owns Skrulls, and also for the record, we don’t own the Badoon either. So people were asking why we have the Sakaarans in the film, we don’t own the Badoon"
[editline]7th July 2016[/editline]
James Gunn Feb 2014
[url]http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/skrulls-badoon-part-marvel-cinematic-universe.html[/url]
[editline]7th July 2016[/editline]
apparently the chitari were replacements for Skrulls?
Wonder what's changed that they're certain they can use them now
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50657448]The point of producing that movie was to stop the contract from going back to marvel
[editline]6th July 2016[/editline]
They're required to make one every 10 years or they lose it[/QUOTE]
I think they might eventually realize that there's no point in keeping the rights of something that will cost money and won't earn much in return
[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;50664953]I think they might eventually realize that there's no point in keeping the rights of something that will cost money and won't earn much in return[/QUOTE]
this is fox we're talking about, they were able to hold the rights to watchmen simply by having it enter pre-production once every few years and then do nothing about it. they will hold onto that shit for as long as they can because they're idiots.
[QUOTE=Pops;50668202]this is fox we're talking about, they were able to hold the rights to watchmen simply by having it enter pre-production once every few years and then do nothing about it. they will hold onto that shit for as long as they can because they're idiots.[/QUOTE]
In the end, though, WB still got Watchmen back.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50668332]In the end, though, WB still got Watchmen back.[/QUOTE]
fox got a good deal out of it, though.
[QUOTE=jp_rsardeto;50664953]I think they might eventually realize that there's no point in keeping the rights of something that will cost money and won't earn much in return[/QUOTE]
Oh how precious
May I introduce you to Viacom
[editline]8th July 2016[/editline]
Companies being retarded rights squatters despite their original creators wanting to work the IP for real is nothing new unfortunately
[editline]8th July 2016[/editline]
If not for that SOOO many things we've left behind would still be making things
Invader zim and clone high for instance
I mean zim got a comic now but it's been like 10 years of them wanting to make new seasons
BTW if you want to figure out Spider-Man castings I reccomend checking out the current comic, Spidey. Its very clearly a book trying to cash in on MCU Spidey since its set when Peters a teen, hes drawn like Tom Holland and his first team-up is with Iron Man against Vulture.
Interesting things to note are that Flash has black, slicked back hair like Tony Raviooli who is describes as being Peters high school bully/nemesis and that Harry Osborn looks almost exactly like the recently cast Lorenzo James Henrie, including the race swap.
[QUOTE=Takuat;50672710]BTW if you want to figure out Spider-Man castings I reccomend checking out the current comic, Spidey. Its very clearly a book trying to cash in on MCU Spidey since its set when Peters a teen, hes drawn like Tom Holland and his first team-up is with Iron Man against Vulture.
Interesting things to note are that Flash has black, slicked back hair like Tony Raviooli who is describes as being Peters high school bully/nemesis and that Harry Osborn looks almost exactly like the recently cast Lorenzo James Henrie, including the race swap.[/QUOTE]
Nah.
They dont tell the comic guys shit, from what i understand.
They tell them enough I imagine.
I remember a Lizard arc dropping at the same time as Amazing Spider-man. That sort of shit takes time to set up, they know broad details. Often comic book characters end up resembling their movie counterparts more when films fly into production, like Guardians.
[QUOTE=Dan2593;50675151]They tell them enough I imagine.
I remember a Lizard arc dropping at the same time as Amazing Spider-man. That sort of shit takes time to set up, they know broad details. Often comic book characters end up resembling their movie counterparts more when films fly into production, like Guardians.[/QUOTE]
To be fair, back during then, Sony and Marvel were emailing back and forth and whatnot, and up until a little past Age of Ultrons release, Ike Perlmutter was involved in the movies, and he's a fucking crazy ass who's neutering the X-Men and ended the Fantastic Four because they dont own the movie rights, so if anything he was probably the one who said "do this".
He got shitcanned out the movies because he's a psycho, though, so i dont know about that anymore.
ASM wasn't an MCU film
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