[QUOTE=Damjen;49711869]Marvel is marketing Civil War as a conflict between heroes, with no third parties involved.
Crossbones [I]could[/I] screw with that. They are playing it very safe but it's not the first time.[/QUOTE]
If there were no third parties, Crossbones wouldn't be in the film at all.
If they're making him an independent character out on a personal vendetta, not only does it completely twist his character around (he's [I]always[/I] worked with someone else, he's [I]always[/I] the henchmen), it makes no sense for him to gain that ugly exoskeleton all himself. He's a soldier, not a Tony Stark. (This is beside the point that he shouldn't have power armor anyway.)
[QUOTE=-nesto-;49711821]The average viewer isn't going to see Crossbones and go oh hey [sp]that's the punk bitch that got his ass handed to him by Cap in Winter Soldier. That must mean HYDRA is still active!!![/sp][/QUOTE]
Actually,[sp]he got his ass handed to him by Falcon.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Ridge;49713525]Actually,[sp]he got his ass handed to him by Falcon.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp]I thought he got his ass handed to him by a building.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Gar;49713559][sp]I thought he got his ass handed to him by a building.[/sp][/QUOTE]
#teamtriskelion
That... was...[I]awful.[/I]
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;49717610]That... was...[I]awful.[/I][/QUOTE]
Without spoiling anything (or just confining that shit to spoiler tags), what was so bad about it?
[editline]11th February 2016[/editline]
I'm curious, since you're literally the first person I've seen who has anything bad to say about it (and has actually SEEN the movie).
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;49717937]Without spoiling anything (or just confining that shit to spoiler tags), what was so bad about it?
[editline]11th February 2016[/editline]
I'm curious, since you're literally the first person I've seen who has anything bad to say about it (and has actually SEEN the movie).[/QUOTE]
Deadpool is the cinematic equivalent of that thirteen year old boy who just found out about sex and thinks its the most hilarious thing in the world.
I can say with certainty that 90% of the jokes in this movie are low brow humor of the lowest kind. And that's not to say low brow humor is instantly bad, because some of these jokes do land (mostly thanks to the MVP of the movie, TJ Miller), but dear god does it gets fucking boring the fifth time he's making an analogy to sex.
There are no characters here, there are only joke machines, unnecessary and fruitless cameos or one-dimensional fuck fantasies. That's right, fuck fantasies. The female characters in this movie are a joke: Vanessa is nothing more than another 'THE PERFECT WOMAN WHO LIKES FOOTBALL AND MAKES STAR WARS JOKES [I]and also has no relevant character traits and just accepts whatever the main male protagonist does and becomes a damsel in distress[/I]' and Angel has one line in the entire movie.
There is the minor exception of Teenage Warhead and Blind Al, but the problem is that one of them's very one note (for the two good jokes Teenage Warhead gets, she amounts to a big fat pile of nothing) and the other is a double standard (it's okay for Deadpool to joke about masturbating himself every goddamn second, but when the old black lady talks about sex, it's gross! ewww pewww!11!)
Maturity is nowhere to be seen, except in the character of Colossus, who gets a big fat dump in his head. He's the only adult in the movie (maybe with the exception of the cab driver, who is Indian of course) and he's there just so Deadpool can make the same 'HA HA HIS PENIS IS METAL TOO' joke over and over and so the movie can just laugh at the fact he has [I]morals[/I] and wants Deadpool to be [I]a better person[/I].
The movie also commits that classic mistake of pointing out cliches... and then doing them with a straight face. There's a scene where Wade Wilson remarks that he wants to learn more about Vanessa so she's 'not just an objectified Hollywood female character', but that's all she is. There's a dig in the opening credits about there being a British villain, but I'm pretty sure that's the only characteristic of the bad guy (there's this awful attempt at making a recurring leitmotif or something out of his name but it just comes off as hollow).
Oh yeah, here's the big great problem behind Deadpool: for all its incessant joking (I get it, the guy does not shut up, I guess I can't blame anyone but me for walking into that one) and fourth wall 'breaking' (which usually amounts to him making casually stupid and unfunny remarks to the camera with the occasional dig at FOX's nigh-idiotic handling of the franchise), the movie's just another by-the-numbers origin story complete with a big finale that destroys everything and ends with a romantic moment. Except whilst those other movies had to create characters so that the romantic moment feels rewarding, Deadpool can just make a joke about how he's gonna have sex later.
It's annoying, it's degrading to anyone who isn't a straight male (the amount of 'suck my dick' jokes in this movie makes me feel like I stepped back in time to when being gay was considered a shorthand for instant comedy and I'm pretty sure it made a transphobic joke) and it feels like the entire genre is taking seventeen thousand steps back with every minute of this godforsaken cesspool.
I'll say two good things: the action scenes are interesting and capture the frenetic action of Deadpool in the comics (although like most action movies these days they border on chaotic and are almost impossible to follow) and the movie has [I]ONE SEQUENCE[/I] where it manages to tap into the tragic nature of Deadpool's character. Coincidentally, its the one sequence where he doesn't open his mouth.
I'm pretty sure if you tried to pass off this movie as the result of a youtube sketch group trying to take a crack at a motion picture, everyone would believe you. Even with the special effects, because there are MANY instances of everyone looking plastic [I]as fuck[/I].
In the end, every attempt at character development or making this movie about Deadpool the character and not Deadpool the blight that has spread over the internet feels incredibly hollow because Deadpool (both the movie and the character) just doesn't shut [I]the fuck[/I] [B][I]UP.[/I][/B]
(The post-credits sequence is awful too. It started off as a cool reference and ended up turning into what felt like Ryan Reynolds and everyone at FOX throwing a morsel to the hungry crowds of idiotic fans who'll bite at anything regardless of quality. [sp]It's literally him saying the next one will have Cable. Fuck you.[/sp] Oh yeah, don't worry about spoilers: this is the most generic origin story you've ever seen out there. Think about every plot point that has been done before and it's in this movie. For all the winking, it's incredibly unoriginal.)
Eh, seems like a different strokes for different folks kinda thing, honestly.
I'm not going in expecting anything particularly high-brow or clever, let's see if it still finds a way to disappoint me.
[QUOTE=BanthaFodder;49718137]Eh, seems like a different strokes for different folks kinda thing, honestly.
I'm not going in expecting anything particularly high-brow or clever, let's see if it still finds a way to disappoint me.[/QUOTE]
I wasn't expecting anything high brow or clever too, but I was expecting something [I]decent[/I], y'know, something that doesn't substitute character and plot and stuff like that for a masturbation joke every five seconds.
[editline]11th February 2016[/editline]
AKA An actual movie and not a 9gag post.
Tbh mate I don't know what you were expecting, it was as good as the trailers were
If you ask me, Baron Zemo's role in Civil War will be the main antagonist in the first fifteen minutes of the movie. Then he'll die off-screen and we'll discover it halfway through
Come to think of it, no, that'd be just silly, wouldn't it?
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;49718146]I wasn't expecting anything high brow or clever too, but I was expecting something [I]decent[/I], y'know, something that doesn't substitute character and plot and stuff like that for a masturbation joke every five seconds.
[editline]11th February 2016[/editline]
AKA An actual movie and not a 9gag post.[/QUOTE]
[sp]Were there any 4th wall references to Wolverine Origins?[/sp]
[QUOTE=Tuskin;49719591][sp]Were there any 4th wall references to Wolverine Origins?[/sp][/QUOTE]
One, and it wasn't even a reference.
[sp]The bad guy went 'maybe I should sew your mouth shut' and Deadpool went 'you should not do that'.[/sp]
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;49719653]One, and it wasn't even a reference.
[sp]The bad guy went 'maybe I should sew your mouth shut' and Deadpool went 'you should not do that'.[/sp][/QUOTE]
[sp] there was 2, he had an action figure of shitty-pool [/sp]
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;49719661][sp] there was 2, he had an action figure of shitty-pool [/sp][/QUOTE]
Must have erased it out of my mind along with all the shitty jokes (also known as 2.5/3 of the movie).
Ah darn, the outright reference the leaked script i thought was pretty good.
Considering that the movie impressed /co/ I'd wager you probably just don't like deadpool.
[QUOTE=Killer monkey;49719839]Considering that the movie impressed /co/ I'd wager you probably just don't like deadpool.[/QUOTE]
Really? 4chan is your measure for quality?
I like good Deadpool, not whatever this shit is. Waypool at least had some consistency to its randomness.
Like, I've read Duggan's recent run, and there weren't that many sex jokes in it. It was actually quite well-written and the jokes were much better.
Not like this. There's nothing 'Deadpool' about these jokes. It's every R-rated comedy you've seen before, with comedians cracking riffs about something fucking something else.
I have to agree with Zuimzado, why would you use 4Chan as a measure of quality?
[editline]11th February 2016[/editline]
4Chan is a meme sesspool, probably more so then reddit, if course they would like Deadpool.
I'm taking this new Deadpool movie is more divisive than what I thought
Which means my friends will FORCE me to see it
If you based your expectations off the trailers you are going to get exactly what you wanted
I don't know how you can complain about the amount of dick jokes when most of the marketing was close up pictures of deadpools crotch
To be fair Deadpool himself is a reasonably childish character that makes forced jokes. I wouldn't go watch the film expecting any less
[QUOTE=Nemisis116;49720371]If you based your expectations off the trailers you are going to get exactly what you wanted
I don't know how you can complain about the amount of dick jokes when most of the marketing was close up pictures of deadpools crotch[/QUOTE]
Let me put it like this.
There is a box in front of your house. There's a sign plastered on the front of the box that says 'dildos'.
But you look at it, and its a medium sized box, you know. You pick it up, it's not that heavy, and you can hear the sound of something rattling in there.
And you're like "I know there's gonna be a dildo in there but I'm willing to take the risk and see what else is in this box".
Except instead of one or two dildos, the moment you open the box you get thrown back as a jet of dildos invades every nook and cranny of your house for two hours with [I]no pauses.[/I]
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;49711714]The lack of Crossbones in the Civil War trailers is somewhat concerning.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fort83;49713250]He's actually very briefly in the world premiere trailer.[/QUOTE]
[IMG]http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Captain-America-Civil-War-Trailer-1-Crossbones.jpg[/IMG]
He's not in the foreground, barely visible. I would hardly count that as a "he's in the trailer", which should include more prominent display of him.
I just saw Deadpool, I wasn't expecting much but it was very entertaining, I wouldn't say it was "good" but it could have been a lot worse.
[QUOTE=Zuimzado;49720818]Let me put it like this.
There is a box in front of your house. There's a sign plastered on the front of the box that says 'dildos'.
But you look at it, and its a medium sized box, you know. You pick it up, it's not that heavy, and you can hear the sound of something rattling in there.
And you're like "I know there's gonna be a dildo in there but I'm willing to take the risk and see what else is in this box".
Except instead of one or two dildos, the moment you open the box you get thrown back as a jet of dildos invades every nook and cranny of your house for two hours with [I]no pauses.[/I][/QUOTE]
i though people were saying we'd get the """good"", clever deadpool, not the memepool that the character was reduced into lately...
[QUOTE=Metaru;49722912]i though people were saying we'd get the good deadpool, not the memepool that the character was reduced into lately...[/QUOTE]
People were wrong.
By the way, it's been just one day and I've already heard the same defenses from people who liked the movie. The most egregious one is "you went in wanting to hate this movie, right?"
Motherfucker, what kind of reality do you live in where you would waste [I]any[/I] money to do something you hate? Especially a midnight premiere in a hot as hell room?
Ive seen deadpool and while I knew it wasn't going to be the same standard of writing as the latest run of the comics, I have to say it wasn't as bad as I expected it to be. I did get a few laughs out of it and I'd probably happily go and see it a second time.
well, people surely disliked the shit out of TFA and Mad Max last year even thoug they're among the best rated films of 2015. looking at Rotten Tomatoes, Deadpool sits at a reasonable 82%(while zoolander is at 26%).
I'm left wondering if it was just not what you expected(wich is reasonable, i'm going to feel dissapointed if the entire movie is just nonstop memes one after another). I know the whole movie has been hyped as fuck and there's an already huge fanbase that will digest anything at defend it. And there's FOX with an abysmal record of terrible to mediocre superhero movies.
I guess i'll just wait and see. isn't like Deadpool is built to be a character with a particulary deep development and i'm not expecting more of it other than a good 2h ride
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