She looked alright in First Class, but her new makeup looks terrible, it's too fluorescent now.
Why have they basically spoiled that Storm will end up with the X-Men? In all of the trailers etc she's one of the four horsemen. Shitty marketing.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50006966]Why have they basically spoiled that Storm will end up with the X-Men? In all of the trailers etc she's one of the four horsemen. Shitty marketing.[/QUOTE]
One of X-Men will end up on a X-Men team?
[I]No way[/I]
[QUOTE=Damjen;50006993]One of X-Men will end up on a X-Men team?
[I]No way[/I][/QUOTE]
When the rest of the marketing is advertising Storm as a villain, that's pretty fucking stupid imo.
[QUOTE=ElectronicG19;50007112]When the rest of the marketing is advertising Storm as a villain, that's pretty fucking stupid imo.[/QUOTE]
When the rest of the franchise has her as a member of the X-Men, thats common sense.
Storm needs one movie where she's cool as shit.
Did I miss something? Is X-men part of the MCU now?
[QUOTE=VenomousBeetle;50007631]Did I miss something? Is X-men part of the MCU now?[/QUOTE]
No but no ones gonna bother making an X-Men thread since it doesn't have as much interest as the MCU but still interests some people while we wait for CW/DS.
Didn't we have a similar discussion a couple pages back?
Sorry I just got here
"28 new posts", I thought either someone said they hated Marvel or something new came about.
Didn't expect third option: X-Men talk :v:
I'm really disinterested in Apoc now, but that doesn't mean I won't go see it.
My question is, where do they go from here? What would be the focus of another film?
[QUOTE=SFC003;50008064]I'm really disinterested in Apoc now, but that doesn't mean I won't go see it.
My question is, where do they go from here? What would be the focus of another film?[/QUOTE]
Reboot into MCU.
[QUOTE=SFC003;50008064]I'm really disinterested in Apoc now, but that doesn't mean I won't go see it.
My question is, where do they go from here? What would be the focus of another film?[/QUOTE]
What they ought to do is make stand alone films involving only one or two mutants, like wow they did with The Wolverine. There's so may characters in the X-Men films that none of them get the proper attention and fleshed out that they deserve.
[QUOTE=SFC003;50008064]I'm really disinterested in Apoc now, but that doesn't mean I won't go see it.
My question is, where do they go from here? What would be the focus of another film?[/QUOTE]
Basically the only thing they haven't mined from hell to breakfast is X-force and X-cutioner's Song/Legacy, neither of which is what you would call top shelf storytelling material, and also more likely to be covered by Deadpool.
There are some decent New Mutants arc they haven't covered, and they haven't touched the Reavers/Morlocks/Genosha either.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50008068]Reboot into MCU.[/QUOTE]
As great as that may be, I believe X-Men is large enough to exist solely on its own and at this rate may just convolute the MCU. Especially considering the Inhumans are still in the works for the MCU and justifying a large population of mutants suddenly becoming relevant. However, I do wish the creative executives at Marvel's production team would control X-Men rather than the current masters.
I think they could start paving a way to the X-Force with Mister Sinister and the Marauders as an adversary. Deadpool could tie-in after introducing Cable and maybe even Ajax's operation in the movie could be a splinter from Minster Sinister's larger scheme. The next Wolverine movie could center around X-23 and Daken; the former's creation could be attributed to Sinister. Morlocks could be introduced, and we already know Gambit is getting his own film. In all of this, I can see mutants such as Domino, Omega Red, Madelyn Pryor and possibly Hope Summers- to name a few- to be introduced someplace. All of this I think could be tied together into several individual films and an X-Force film or two.
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;50008480]As great as that may be, I believe X-Men is large enough to exist solely on its own and at this rate may just convolute the MCU. Especially considering the Inhumans are still in the works for the MCU and justifying a large population of mutants suddenly becoming relevant. However, I do wish the creative executives at Marvel's production team would control X-Men rather than the current masters.
[/QUOTE]
Personally, i feel like bringing the Mutants in AFTER most other big name heroes are established would actually be a smarter idea because it explains why the Mutants are so hated when the regular heroes arent, its because the public would already know and be familiar with the Avengers/Doctor Strange/Defenders/Spider-Man.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;50008486]Personally, i feel like bringing the Mutants in AFTER most other big name heroes are established would actually be a smarter idea because it explains why the Mutants are so hated when the regular heroes arent, its because the public would already know and be familiar with the Avengers/Doctor Strange/Defenders/Spider-Man.[/QUOTE]
Be that as it may, justifying their existence in the MCU in a manner that is not contrived is the issue.
I'm one of the people that believe that even within Marvel Comics the Xmen should be a seperate thing entirely from the rest of the Universe. There's absolutely no basis for people to don tights and a mask and run about NYC exacting vigilante justice to be accepted when people loathe and fear Mutants who are just people born with superpowers rather than getting them in their late teens. That and the Xmen have utterly outlandish villains, the kind that almost invalidate the Avengers even existing. Keep them seperate and everything is a whole lot cleaner and easier.
It works perfectly fine in the comics.
If anybody could make the X-Men work on screen it's the MCU guys. What I would give to see a correctly realised Wolverine taking the piss out of Spider-Man. Or Magneto pull Iron Man apart.
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;50008480]As great as that may be, I believe X-Men is large enough to exist solely on its own and at this rate may just convolute the MCU. Especially considering the Inhumans are still in the works for the MCU and justifying a large population of mutants suddenly becoming relevant. However, I do wish the creative executives at Marvel's production team would control X-Men rather than the current masters.
I think they could start paving a way to the X-Force with Mister Sinister and the Marauders as an adversary. Deadpool could tie-in after introducing Cable and maybe even Ajax's operation in the movie could be a splinter from Minster Sinister's larger scheme. The next Wolverine movie could center around X-23 and Daken; the former's creation could be attributed to Sinister. Morlocks could be introduced, and we already know Gambit is getting his own film. In all of this, I can see mutants such as Domino, Omega Red, Madelyn Pryor and possibly Hope Summers- to name a few- to be introduced someplace. All of this I think could be tied together into several individual films and an X-Force film or two.[/QUOTE]
The brothers Russo could probably do it, but I think honestly that Genosha should be the next and final iteration for Singer, and let Deadpool/New Mutants handle anything else with the current/90's setup.
[quote] Inhumans [/quote]
Actually saying mutants are humanity's response to aliens being introduced into the genepool isn't the worst thing I've heard as far as integration would go.
[QUOTE=27X;50008317]Basically the only thing they haven't mined from hell to breakfast is X-force and X-cutioner's Song/Legacy, neither of which is what you would call top shelf storytelling material, and also more likely to be covered by Deadpool.
There are some decent New Mutants arc they haven't covered, and they haven't touched the Reavers/Morlocks/Genosha either.[/QUOTE]
They kinda did the Morlocks on X3 but let's not go down there
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[Ratner][quote] we ALL float down here, boyee [/quote][/Ratner]
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;50008492]Be that as it may, justifying their existence in the MCU in a manner that is not contrived is the issue.[/QUOTE]
Not really.
I mean in X-Men First Class its a plot point that Mutants arent known to humanity. They could still be hidden. X-Men and Brotherhood not strong enough yet to wiggle their penises out in public and whatnot.
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[QUOTE=cyclocius;50008623]I'm one of the people that believe that even within Marvel Comics the Xmen should be a seperate thing entirely from the rest of the Universe. There's absolutely no basis for people to don tights and a mask and run about NYC exacting vigilante justice to be accepted when people loathe and fear Mutants who are just people born with superpowers rather than getting them in their late teens. That and the Xmen have utterly outlandish villains, the kind that almost invalidate the Avengers even existing. Keep them seperate and everything is a whole lot cleaner and easier.[/QUOTE]
I feel it'd be easier if Mutants were more clearly freaks. Like if Wolverine kept his scars from his healing or if like Angels wings were like massive bat wings with albino hair on them or something.
How many more phases of the MCU can you do, though? After Infinity war, there has to be an "end" point.
[QUOTE=SFC003;50010876]How many more phases of the MCU can you do, though? After Infinity war, there has to be an "end" point.[/QUOTE]
did you forget who owns the mcu? they just reboot and start from scratch with a new cast, slightly rewritten stories, and depending on what other characters they negotiate for rights to, add/remove characters.
don't be surprised if they do get into a phase 4 and start doing like, the young or new avengers or something.
[QUOTE=SFC003;50010876]How many more phases of the MCU can you do, though? After Infinity war, there has to be an "end" point.[/QUOTE]
Oh theres a lot.
If they get the Fantastic Four back, they have access to Galactus, Silver Surfer, Doctor Doom, Kang.
You can do Secret Wars (the first one), you can do Dark Reign now because Norman Osborn is part of the MCU (Kevin Feige wants him to be important apparently), you could do Annihilation Conquest but they might include that in Infinity War, World War Hulk, The Masters of Evil, etc.
Theres a FUCK ton of stuff thats still untouched. And thats just "universe wide" stuff.
Character wise theres still shit Tony's Abusive Boyfriend that i'd like to see.
If Disney really wanted to milk the MCU for all it's worth and keep it going for years and years to come they could do a universe split and recast everybody and reboot as the Ultimate Marvel Cinematic Universe and just literally start all over. :v:
Realistically though, I see them going up to an Avengers 4, or maybe just A3 and some standalone wrap-up films or something. Of course Disney won't stop making Marvel movies, but the MCU as the entity that it is definitely won't go on forever. At some point they'll have to stop and switch back to solo films and reboots and such.
[QUOTE=Pops;50010974]did you forget who owns the mcu? they just reboot and start from scratch with a new cast, slightly rewritten stories, and depending on what other characters they negotiate for rights to, add/remove characters.
don't be surprised if they do get into a phase 4 and start doing like, the young or new avengers or something.[/QUOTE]
I'm just waiting for the moment where the oldest MCU movies start looking dated as hell. That will be something to remember.
As little hope there is for the DCEU after BvS, I'd love to see once both the MCU and the DCEU films are wrapped up, a Justice League vs. Avengers-type movie. Something completely ridiculous and out of canon, but is acceptable for just how awesome it could be.
I wish they would take a long break before rebooting stuff
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