Weightlifting/Bodybuilding Thread V.4 - I wanna look like that guy from Fight Club
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[QUOTE=Seith;35965605]Remember that there is no wrong way, just an inefficient way.
You can do ABCXABC all day, but the fact is you will stop gaining eventually unless a strong base is made first.
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Well I have a decent base, so would this plan work?
[QUOTE=Kabstrac;35961975]First, are you at a home gym, or commercial gym?[/QUOTE]
Home, but I wouldn't call it a gym. I got a pull up bar and that's basically it. Oh and the floor.
Oh god i just had 5 mcdoubles. plz save me
[QUOTE=Seith;35963906]Give me an average, "pretty clean" day for you.[/QUOTE]
Today for instance.
1 cup Kashi go lean with 1 cup 2% milk + Apple. [ 260 Calories ] [18g Protein]
4 slices of smoked ham and one slice of low fat cheese on whole wheat. [ 365 Calories ] [30g Protein]
Protein 32 0 sugar [32g Protein]
Diet soda
2 baked chicken legs with back attached. [ 435 Calories ] [58g Protein]
1 cup cooked rice + Salad. [170 Calories ] [4g Protein]
4 fishoil caps.
4 slices of smoked ham and one slice of low fat cheese on whole wheat. [ 365 Calories ] [30g Protein]
Perhaps a Protein shake, depends on my macros by the end of the day.
Now, I've lost fat, I can clearly tell, but It's sloooowww, 2 weeks ago I ate at 2500 calories aday in an effort to speed my metabolism up, I've been cutting for a while.
Thats around 160 carbs BTW.
Summers coming fast as shit this year, and I want a leaner physique, I just want to avoid fasting, I can't do that shit ne more.
Deadlifted 100kg today. My ass aches.
[QUOTE=G71tc4;35971273]Well I have a decent base, so would this plan work?[/QUOTE]
Any change you impose on the body, it will do it's best to adapt to.
The questions are - what are your goals, how long have you been training for, what's the routine like.
[editline]16th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kel|oggs;35975028]Today for instance.
1 cup Kashi go lean with 1 cup 2% milk + Apple. [ 260 Calories ] [18g Protein]
4 slices of smoked ham and one slice of low fat cheese on whole wheat. [ 365 Calories ] [30g Protein]
Protein 32 0 sugar [32g Protein]
Diet soda
2 baked chicken legs with back attached. [ 435 Calories ] [58g Protein]
1 cup cooked rice + Salad. [170 Calories ] [4g Protein]
4 fishoil caps.
4 slices of smoked ham and one slice of low fat cheese on whole wheat. [ 365 Calories ] [30g Protein]
Perhaps a Protein shake, depends on my macros by the end of the day.
Now, I've lost fat, I can clearly tell, but It's sloooowww, 2 weeks ago I ate at 2500 calories aday in an effort to speed my metabolism up, I've been cutting for a while.
Thats around 160 carbs BTW.
Summers coming fast as shit this year, and I want a leaner physique, I just want to avoid fasting, I can't do that shit ne more.[/QUOTE]
1. You can't just speed the metabolism up by increasing calories. You need at least 3 days of HIGH CARB in order to "boost" it.
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[QUOTE=Jallen;35975996]Deadlifted 100kg today. My ass aches.[/QUOTE]
Please tell me you didn't shit yourself.
[QUOTE=Ruski v2.0;35944610]The last 4% bf is a bitch. Fasting and eating clean foods (literally just fruit and meats) is key to getting thar from what I have heard.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I will be consuming nothing but protein shakes, watermelon, eggs, and lean cuts of meat (thighs and ribeyes occasionally and water obviously) for the next 12 weeks.
Tell us if you actually were able to get rid of the stubborn parts. Pictures would be awesome.
I really hold weight around my midriff, so I second pics to show whether you managed to get rid of dat der resilient fat.
Found a new gym today, it's beautiful. Looks just like the old gyms in Pumping Iron, nothing but barbells, dumbbbells, and simple machines. Also has powerlifting stations with a wall of top lifters. It's like heaven, everyone there knew what they were doing, not a single curlbro in sight.
[QUOTE=Shovelpass;35984354]Found a new gym today, it's beautiful. Looks just like the old gyms in Pumping Iron, nothing but barbells, dumbbbells, and simple machines. Also has powerlifting stations with a wall of top lifters. It's like heaven, everyone there knew what they were doing, not a single curlbro in sight.[/QUOTE]
I cried. One time in my gym we had a line of like 7 people curling.
:'(
Today I saw two girls curling in the squat-rack with a barbell. When they were done, I discovered that they didn't even use the safety-locks.
Thoughts on leangains? Go!
[QUOTE=Shovelpass;35984354]Found a new gym today, it's beautiful. Looks just like the old gyms in Pumping Iron, nothing but barbells, dumbbbells, and simple machines. Also has powerlifting stations with a wall of top lifters. It's like heaven, everyone there knew what they were doing, not a single curlbro in sight.[/QUOTE]
Been going to a particular gym for a while, really awesome. None of that generic fitness center shit, just some old building bought by a group of former bodybuilders, then they crammed a shitton of weights into it, and a couple of machines. And they have a giant poster of Arnold hanging above the door.
And best of all it's 130 dollars for a year, which is a great price (I don't know about US prices, but membership in one of the fitness-chains here costs like fifty bucks a month)
I feel like I've been slowly deteriorating. I used to rest a day after working out, but now I gotta rest 2 two days cause for some reason my body just goes "lol nope" and becomes even more sore than on the first day
OK GUYS, I have just realized I am now scrawy as fuck. My dad and some coworkers have remarked on it and the fact that none of my lifts have increased in the last 3 months (or have increased at non-noticable levels such as 1.25lbs are something stupid). I was a 14st 5'86ft fatass and am now 10st 4 at 6ft. I need to bulk up but wish to do so without adding muhc more BF, as I ma already at 14% and it was such a bitch getting here from 23%. So can you guys help me go over the foods needed for a clean bulk, answer whether a mass-gainer could help me out and suggest a programme to help me- so essentially help me out with everything.
I am dedicated as fuarrk and have the next 5 months to really bulk up and build mass (as fuck summer, I'd rather be slightly bigger and strong than a fucking auschwitz survivor). There are no other time constraints as I have just finished my exams so I could practically go the gym 7 days a week if need be.
Thanks for the help gentlemen.
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So I'm not super experienced with weightlifting. Should I be sore after workouts? I read that when first picking up weightlifting after a hiatus, I should be sore. And I was, but now about two weeks of solid working out later, and even though I'm pushing myself to the limit on that last couple of reps on almost every single on of my workouts, I'm not sore later or the next day.
Am I doing something wrong or have I just been gifted pain-less muscles?
Extreme soreness the next day only takes a few weeks before it stops happening. From then on, soreness only really happens when you blast a certain muscle group. For example, calves tend to get super sore when targeted because working calves involves going to failure a lot, they're a stubborn muscle. So they're completely destroyed the next day and you'll be sore.
If you're doing compound lifts and whatnot, you probably won't feel soreness again like you felt it the first week or two of lifting.
Yup. Recently redid my entire workout and am now utilizing compound lifts much more. But, good news.
So Ive been doing stronglifts for a couple of months and Im finding Im having to drop to 3x5 for a few things.
I know that training to failure is seen as a bad thing, but what do you guys think about forced reps?
If I cant make my 5th rep in bench press is it good or bad to get help?
Also what do you guys think about heavy negs?
I always find the workout hard now, but I rarely ache afterwards.
I've had some thoughts running around in my head lately about my workout. Today, I'm basically only working on building muscle and it works okay (Hard to tell, only been working out for a month, but I can see small progress already), though I think of myself as a little bit too fat. I haven't measured my bodyfat yet, but I sure have higher weight than the other years I used to work out. At the moment, I way about 92kg on my 180cm height. Since lower bodyfat would show results faster, should I perhaps try to loose 12-15kg first? I'm puzzled. :pwn:
[QUOTE=ShinyChrome;36001824]I've had some thoughts running around in my head lately about my workout. Today, I'm basically only working on building muscle and it works okay (Hard to tell, only been working out for a month, but I can see small progress already), though I think of myself as a little bit too fat. I haven't measured my bodyfat yet, but I sure have higher weight than the other years I used to work out. At the moment, I way about 92kg on my 180cm height. Since lower bodyfat would show results faster, should I perhaps try to loose 12-15kg first? I'm puzzled. :pwn:[/QUOTE]
These are not two separate stages. There's no "bulking" phase or "cutting" phase. You can do both. In a matter of a fact, doing both at the same time would induce far better results.
If you want to lose fat quickly, you should indulge yourself with sprints and weight training.
[editline]18th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Kabstrac;36001554]I dont think DOMS necessarily = gains.
With that said, my whole back has doms from yesterday my god.[/QUOTE]
They are not an indication of growth per se, but they do indicate in my personal opinion you are utilizing Hypertrophy protocols rather than Relative Strength. (i.e more reps, slower tempo, more sets.... result in far more severe doms)
[QUOTE=Seith;36001869]These are not two separate stages. There's no "bulking" phase or "cutting" phase. You can do both. In a matter of a fact, doing both at the same time would induce far better results.
If you want to lose fat quickly, you should indulge yourself with sprints and weight training.
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For what I've read, you need to eat less calories than I use up to loose fat; while bulking to build muscle, you eat more than you use. I've also read that you essentially can't build much muscle if you undercut the calories while lifting weights, but would loose fat.. Have I missunderstood?
More fat = less efficient at receiving nutrients. Someone who gets excessively fat while "bulking" is essentially doing it wrong.
While a surplus is needed, one can stay pretty lean when introduced to the correct way of diet. i.e right foods, cycle carb off and on days etc.
Also there's a difference between a caloric deficit from not eating and a caloric deficit caused by introducing more anaerobic exercise. When you introduce the correct way off weightlifting and sprints into your life it may not only enhance fat loss, but muscle gain.
I have lost 4.5kg within a month, while still getting stronger.
[QUOTE=Seith;36002041]More fat = less efficient at receiving nutrients. Someone who gets excessively fat while "bulking" is essentially doing it wrong.
While a surplus is needed, one can stay pretty lean when introduced to the correct way of diet. i.e right foods, cycle carb off and on days etc.
Also there's a difference between a caloric deficit from not eating and a caloric deficit caused by introducing more anaerobic exercise. When you introduce the correct way off weightlifting and sprints into your life it may not only enhance fat loss, but muscle gain.
I have lost 4.5kg within a month, while still getting stronger.[/QUOTE]
Very nice, thanks for the reply :smile:
Are anyone here climbers? I failed the rope climbing test and I have 3 months until another test. According to my PE teacher, the key was in the "hand strength". I googled the phrase and I learned a few things about grip strength. Is the grip strength associated with the core strength? I'm really curious and desperate to climb that rope.
Rope climbing reminds of pulls ups, just harder.
it works everything; upper back, lower back, forearms, biceps, chest, abs....
if you want to get stronger at it, following a normal ss routine would provide results within a month.
But, truly conquering this rope climbing, one needs doing a lot of actual rope work. Forearm work.
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I'm gonna use a pull-up bar a lot when school year ends. So that's chin ups.
Also I have to do a lot of crunches and push-ups since I'm weak in core strength/stabilisation.
While I still have access to gym, I perform deadlifts and sometimes farmer walks when I hold dumbbells(and other weightlifting exercises).
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