• [PSA] New Website TruePeopleSearch has Released a Substantial Amount of PII for Free
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[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52213479]I assume this is the part you're referring to? This is in reference to the logic-based portion of their search engine for records and isn't tied to where they're pulling the bulk of their information. Not to mention "public records" is so broad it could mean anything that's freely available on the Internet and doesn't really narrow it down to anything. [editline]Edited: [/editline] Not to mention access to government records on people typically costs money and if they're handing out this service for free there's no way they paid to have access to that many records for a free service. There's something else at hand.[/QUOTE] There's not that much here that couldn't be found through freely available resources. Business filings generally are publicly available, as are property sales records and marriage records. I'm guessing the relatives bit is done through birth announcements and obituaries.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;52213552]I don't think it's feasible for it to not be entirely automated. Perhaps someone is issuing corrections and perhaps people are there to handle removal requests, but the information it's picking up with even the same typing errors or blatantly invalid e-mail addresses I've found lead me to believe it's automated.[/QUOTE] Well the thing is that it could have been ported over from the previous FamilyTreeNow website before it privatized a lot of details as I've been hearing rumors about. In that case it would take a lot less automation (if any) since the records are all there and they're providing more information than anyone else at no cost. And updates would just need to be handled manually on request. Given the size and depth of it though, if it wasn't ported then it was for sure automated but it's pretty damn thorough. Like code_gs said, my grandparents haven't really used the Internet before. Maybe like a banking application or something but that's about it. And their info is all on their and it's accurate too. So they're definitely pulling from a combo of Internet and non-Internet based records. [editline]Edited: [/editline] [QUOTE=laserpanda;52213565]There's not that much here that couldn't be found through freely available resources. Business filings generally are publicly available, as are property sales records and marriage records. I'm guessing the relatives bit is done through birth announcements and obituaries.[/QUOTE] Again, these are just guesses and speculation which brings me back to my main point that nobody really knows the specifics of where it's pulling from.
OH GOOD. All of my information was on there, down to the very last address I lived. So were all my phone numbers and email addresses. Same goes for everyone in my family. What the fuck man
Good thing I've made it a habit for the longest time to input false info on many things (except business / important stuff from a local area). I don't even exist on the search program list, not even listed on my compromised parents.
Opted out with a Geraman IP thanks to a VPN, is it certain I'll be safe this way?
Checked, i'm not on there under any of my zip codes.
had my old PO box address and family on there but nothing else. opted out without a VPN because apartment wifi and I'm moving soon anyways so fuck them
Well everything on me is probably pretty easy to find elsewhere, but opted out anonymously anyways.
Holy fucking shit. I'm not on there but my parents are. Birthdays, phone numbers, all houses they have ever lived in, people they have worked with, maiden names.... enough to steal an identity.
Yeah, yep, not on there. But my family [I]is.[/I] And I was able to track my own family back to the 90s. And I was able to find out intimate details about existing youtube celebrities like their potential real [I]phone number[/I] in half a second just by knowing their name. This website needs to be destroyed, immediately. When people talk about the death of privacy, this is the very, very real world we're plunging ourselves in to. Where I can find your personal information, your home, your [I]phone number,[/I] with a few searches. If any of y'all gave me your names or the name of a relative, I could very likely use this and be outside their bedroom window within a week. How is that not fuckin' terrifying? I don't even need to 'hack' you, I just need a [I]name.[/I] And certain people are trying their best to make sure it only gets worse. People are too complacent. They need to be [I]shown[/I] how bad this is. The worst part of all this is if privacy just dies and I can know basically any detail about any person I want, it'll be far too late to go back. All our shit is going to be out in the open and people [I]will[/I] save it.
You guys act as if this information hasn't been out there for years, this is simply aggregator.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;52213822]You guys act as if this information hasn't been out there for years, this is simply aggregator.[/QUOTE] A 'personal information aggregator' should not be a thing that exists or should be allowed to exist. Really it should be made as hard as humanly possible to find personal information about a person unless they themselves give it to you.
[QUOTE=Mister Sandman;52213841]A 'personal information aggregator' should not be a thing that exists or should be allowed to exist. Really it should be made as hard as humanly possible to find personal information about a person unless they themselves give it to you.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately there's thousands of things like this out there in the internet, cut one head two grow back, etc.
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;52213822]You guys act as if this information hasn't been out there for years, this is simply aggregator.[/QUOTE] That's why it's upsetting though? Like on their own these things aren't too bad. Putting every bit of info together though is just recipe for a shit storm.
I really want people to wake the fuck up and for there to be a new push for privacy nationwide. It is in exactly 0 American's best interest for their own, what they assume is [I]private[/I] information, to be public like this. But so many people can't even be fucked to care. Until half the damn country has their fuckin' nudes and browsing histories opened to the public you're not gonna see it. I genuinely worry that we're heading to a future where you can just buy all the information one could have on a person for cheap. Like their browsing habits, and their phone numbers, and whether or not they're single, and where they go every day, what their fetishes are, their naked pictures, so on. And the concept of a 'secret' is antiquated history. Sky's the limit when you [I]kill privacy[/I] in exchange for corporate dollars.
I got IP banned for removing my family and my girlfriends family from the site :v:
[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52213331]Meaning third parties can now take whatever information they want and do whatever they please with it, which includes selling it. Given that the privacy policy is stolen, there's no stopping anyone from taking that information either, so I highly highly encourage you to opt-out ASAP by using a VPN or TOR, whichever is easier. If you guys need an explanation or a quick and easy then I can post a simple how-to just so they don't get match your actual IP when you go to remove your name.[/QUOTE] Opted out without reading this :suicide:
My cousin and his wife are on there.. Informed them both. Thanks for mentioning this, this tool seems very dangerous. I've found one YT'r that aligns with other known facts.. Yep, this website has to go.
It's out of date for me. This is very very dangerous. This can easily ruin someones life.
I like that the creators are such cunts that they're covering their [I]own[/I] asses from this and trying to hide themselves. That's real nice.
Holy shit
I'm loving all the people that are totally outraged about this site not realizing that [i][b]personal locators have existed for decades[/b][/i]. Before the internet, even. There is a substantial public interest in being able to find people so I'd be surprised if you ever see this stuff disappear, even in the age of identity theft and stalking celebrities. I get that it's a scary concept for someone who's never heard of this stuff but if you ever registered to vote, appeared on a property deed, took out a loan, or even owned a phone line, your information is out there and the old maxim of anyone being able to find it rings true. And despite all of the outrage going on in this thread, society has somehow managed to be pretty stable regardless of that fact. It looks like their information sources are outdated anyway, by several years. But the takeaway is that whenever you have identity questions like "what was the first street you grew up on" or "where were you born" or "what was your mother's maiden name" either answer another question or put in fake information. Also, do not opt out. In fact, it is unwise to even put your own name in the site. You don't know what they're doing with that information. And beyond that, opting out won't stop the same exact information from showing up on any of the hundreds of other websites that do the same exact thing.
I should point out that this isn't the only website with this kind of info. I searched up the same people here and on [URL]http://www.peoplesearch.com[/URL] and found much of the same. Information trading like this has been a thing for a very long time, before the internet really. As Snowmew pointed out, how do you think lots of this gets gobbled up? Mostly by real life events like registrations. Of course, things you submit to websites is another secondary vein for this shit. I know this doesn't make it any better, but I'm just giving a realistic heads up. Shore-up your online life and remove things you don't want to be seen. Keep that kind of shit on an alternative account or two. We're entering a different world now on the internet. I don't have much on my alias that I regret. But I know better than to use "DoomMarine23" for everything I do. Your name is a tag full of juicy data. If its any comfort, most people will probably never care about you and what you do. Just remember that if something might identify you or put you into deep shit, that you either need a secondary account, or accept what happens.
This shit needs to be super illegal, yikes. Put in the only full name I can remember from one of the gaming communities I play at and immediately had his full address, phone number, etc. and that of all his family members.
What's most unsettling about this for me is that it lists name changes/"associated names". That's really, really, really dangerous to so many people in so many ways.
[QUOTE=wingless;52214660]What's most unsettling about this for me is that it lists name changes/"associated names". That's really, really, really dangerous to so many people in so many ways.[/QUOTE] Name changes out of all of this stuff would be the easiest to find considering you're [i]required[/i] to publish it anyway. Again, there's a substantial public interest in having a connection between an old name and a new name. We [i]might[/i] see addresses or phone numbers get sealed in our lifetimes (unlikely) but name changes won't be.
[QUOTE=Snowmew;52214696]Name changes out of all of this stuff would be the easiest to find considering you're [i]required[/i] to publish it anyway. Again, there's a substantial public interest in having a connection between an old name and a new name. We [i]might[/i] see addresses or phone numbers get sealed in our lifetimes (unlikely) but name changes won't be.[/QUOTE] That depends absolutely entirely on the state as to how you need to publish it. This entirely nullifies that, most importantly states only require it to be published within that state. If you're in CA, you don't hear about your former friend that just moved to CO to get away from an abusive ex, which only requires publishing the information in a [b]local[/b] county newspaper. And now their ex knows where you are and who you are due to the linked information that they should have never seen. This is a very real example because I have a friend who has done exactly that. Different states from what I listed.
I'm not in it and my dad and his conjoined sister died in 2012 :cool:
[QUOTE=LuaChobo;52214676]i can pretty much guarantee youve informed more people on this site by making this thread and a significant portion of those people are going to use it for the reasons you are afraid of unless this is some weird meta self advertisement[/QUOTE] The intention is to inform those who wish to remove themselves about it. Those who are going to use it for nefarious purposes won't suddenly start Googling it because I made this thread. Security through obscurity is a terrible practice. It's better to have more people informed so they can remove their information because the ones who are going to use this for criminal advantage will have already likely found this information on their own.
Found my parents on there, but the addresses are very out of date as well as the emails. My page exists, but it's completely blank, and luckily my siblings aren't on it at all. I will definitely be spending some time letting people know about it tho.
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