[Hot From the RC] Never do business with Intuitive Servers -- It's a Scam - General

I hope the IRS doesn't find him.

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[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51034060]Just to wrap this up before moving it all to General Discussion for people to laugh at you, we finally figured out who you really are. Kevin Miller is yet another false identity, but what about the contact information that you registered [I]both[/I] domains under? Hi, Wilbur. Not going to dox your actual personal info, but the jig is up. There's no further proof to be had. Both EweHost and Intuitive Servers were registered by the same person, that person's IP address links to your account here on Facepunch, both services made liberal use of false identities, fake reviews, and misleading advertisements (yes, I found the [URL="https://scriptfodder.com/community/threads/613-official-intuitiveserverscom-free-servers-for-scriptfodder-members"]scriptfodder thread[/URL] that pierced the veil on Intuitive Server's supposed "DDOS" protection, which are just as bogus as EweHost's claims). You are a scammer. Your services are scams. You are a joke. Gonna make sure as many people see this as possible to warn them off of your shady services.[/QUOTE] Somebody call the police because I just witnessed a fucking murder

The irony is too rich here. Trumps campaign is (literally) a scam and now we see supporters running scams of their own. The apples don't fall far from the rotten tree eh?

wow burned

Wonderful

Interesting to see something like this resurface after so many years. I was the original author of [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1262317"]NEVER use Ewe Host[/URL], now referenced in the ban reason. Thus I am likely the last person he wanted to read this thread. I've had the misfortune of knowing Leo5GG for nearly five years now (aka "LeoCash" for the majority of the time I knew him); I was not surprised in the least as I read his responses. Leo has always had a way of avoiding the truth no matter how scrutinizing the evidence against him was. My experiences with him have honestly shaped some of my own personal philosophy, as I spent much time weighing how Leo manages this type of cognitive dissonance; I've concluded that he avoids it entirely. Leo was an admin of mine when I hosted my own set of Garry's Mod servers at the time. Eventually he decided he wanted to create his own community and take a few shortcuts while doing so. He would blatantly take original content from my website such as images which I created. When I confronted him, he claimed to have created them himself even after I showed him the original image file including layers and filters. He would take the effort to copy every last website design, server detail, rule, rank name, etc. and claim them to be his own ingenuity. He would then create multiple accounts to recruit for his own community on my forums; even after I resolved each IP address to him, he denied being affiliated with any of them. Sound familiar? At one point he claimed that my community derived from his, quite unfathomable considering he was one of my original admins. The name of his community itself was even a copy of my original server, "Raid and Print". This put me in a position where I was constantly defending my community's reputation and integrity from Leo. I really don't like to dig up old graves, but Leo single-handedly wasted years of my time while I was at university. Time which affected me, my relationships, and my grades. Time I wish I could have applied to something worth while. However, the INFJ in me couldn't stand to see other people be victimized, manipulated, and abused by his endless deception. Dealing with him was a constant thorn in my toe; I felt greatly relieved when I no longer had to associate with him. I was hoping that would have been the last I heard of him as he matured, however some people don't change. I am the last person to indulge in ad-hominems, however these are character traits I have personally observed over many years: Leo is a compulsive liar and a highly manipulative person. Leo is the type of person who would lie when the truth would serve him better. When you speak with him, you don't know where one lie ends and the next one begins. Quote him exactly and he will tell you it meant something else, and he is exceptional(-ly terrible) at backpedaling when he realizes you're wiser than him. To conclude, if you're looking for resolution or closure, he will never give a confession. I suggest being content with the consequences and acknowledging that he has failed to convince anyone. Leo in the mean time will continue speaking as if anybody is listening. For the record, his name is neither Kevin, Wilbur or anything you think you've found. Those are names among many to cover his identity, which in my opinion isn't any way to operate an honest business. However if you ever do meet Gus personally, please tell him I send my regards.

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;51034639]It might happen a little sooner than that. If I recall correctly I got gold a day early, I think the script doesn't take note of leap years or something. That would make the G-day September 13th.[/QUOTE] I did get Gold one or two days early as well, but that's why I said "within 4 days".

Currently looking into Mist Forums, as the registered owner of the website is denying that Leo/Kevin/Paz/Wilbur/Gus had no directorial role in the company. Claims he was an administrator of the forums, a sales associate, and did customer service work. He has since been removed. Everything else we can tie Leo to conclusively, but Mist Forums may be an exception. If anybody's got any information about that service and its operational structure, please PM me. They seem to work primarily with server providers, and I know they've contacted at least one Facepunch user already (through Leo). Hard to take anything at face value after all this lol

[QUOTE=GarrysModRP;51035471]For the record, his name is neither Kevin, Wilbur or anything you think you've found. Those are names among many to cover his identity, which in my opinion isn't any way to operate an honest business. However if you ever do meet Gus personally, please tell him I send my regards.[/QUOTE] so you're saying that [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1534029&p=51034162&viewfull=1#post51034162]hezzy was full of shit[/url]?

[QUOTE=GarrysModRP;51035471]For the record, his name is neither Kevin, Wilbur or anything you think you've found. Those are names among many to cover his identity, which in my opinion isn't any way to operate an honest business. However if you ever do meet Gus personally, please tell him I send my regards.[/QUOTE] Fuck's sake, the tangle of lies just never ends with that guy. How many layers of false identities does he have?

[QUOTE=bitches;51035569]so you're saying that [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1534029&p=51034162&viewfull=1#post51034162]hezzy was full of shit[/url]?[/QUOTE] I'm not certain where this information came from. My best guess is that they've followed the wrong lead somewhere. Considering how many names he's made up since then, I imagine it's become quite convoluted. Getting the wrong name will most likely still refer to somebody. At one point it became necessary for me to determine some of his personal information after I threatened legal actions against him, thus I know a little more than just his first name. I'm quite confident in the information I obtained years ago.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51035586]Fuck's sake, the tangle of lies just never ends with that guy. How many layers of false identities does he have?[/QUOTE] If he's making money from this, doesn't he have to disclose it for tax purposes? So wouldn't it be illegal to be operating a "business" while using a multitude of false identities? (I don't know anything about Finances or Finance law in the US though)

[QUOTE=Chains!;51035613]If he's making money from this, doesn't he have to disclose it for tax purposes? So wouldn't it be illegal to be operating a "business" while using a multitude of false identities? (I don't know anything about Finances or Finance law in the US though)[/QUOTE] The fact none of his "companies" are actually registered anywhere from the looks of it, and the insane number of false identities he has created to try and cover it up, probably make this really hard to even report to the IRS. It's pretty obvious none of this income is being disclosed, otherwise there'd be no need for this much shifty shit. But who exactly do you report to the IRS? The only trails left would be the stuff he's buying from server provisioning companies, and if he's using false/ stolen identities there it becomes a clusterfuck.

You could always report an alias and give them all of the evidence that's been accumulated.

[QUOTE=Chains!;51035613]If he's making money from this, doesn't he have to disclose it for tax purposes? So wouldn't it be illegal to be operating a "business" while using a multitude of false identities? (I don't know anything about Finances or Finance law in the US though)[/QUOTE] Yes, he would reasonable need to disclose any other sources of income according to federal law, however I wouldn't be surprised if he has evaded reporting income taxes due to his age, personal character, and ignorance of the law. Considering how much privileged information the IRS has access to, I doubt an audit would be too difficult considering how sloppy he is at hiding information. Although even if he does file this income, he doesn't need to share this information publicly so it's not very useful. So as far as I know there won't be any legal consequences for the fake aliases since if he did file they would be under his name.

this is one of the most entertaining threads i have seen in a while, good job mods

I don't wanna sound like I'm sucking up, but the mods here on facepunch are pretty great. I don't go on many other forums or sites, but I think their proactive and reasonable moderation is the reason I love facepunch so much. So thanks, guys.

Leo's escapades have kept this last weekend from going stale. Thank you Leo, keep doing you.

[QUOTE=Limed00d;51035947]Thank you Leo, keep doing you.[/QUOTE] More or less.

Damn bda you played him like a damn fiddle, nice job, keep it up. You're a loose cannon, but you give results.

[QUOTE=GarrysModRP;51035471] For the record, his name is neither Kevin, Wilbur or anything you think you've found. Those are names among many to cover his identity, which in my opinion isn't any way to operate an honest business. However if you ever do meet Gus personally, please tell him I send my regards.[/QUOTE] No, Gus is also a cover name. I wonder if Milton is reading all this.

This is actually a social experiment and Garry is the one behind all of it

[QUOTE=aznz888;51035690]this is one of the most entertaining threads i have seen in a while, good job mods[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=booster;51036061]Damn bda you played him like a damn fiddle, nice job, keep it up.[/quote] Wasn't just me or the other mods tbf. We had a couple of sleuthy members looking into shit for us too. Thanks though!

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51035567]Currently looking into Mist Forums, as the registered owner of the website is denying that Leo/Kevin/Paz/Wilbur/Gus had no directorial role in the company. Claims he was an administrator of the forums, a sales associate, and did customer service work. He has since been removed. Everything else we can tie Leo to conclusively, but Mist Forums may be an exception. If anybody's got any information about that service and its operational structure, please PM me. They seem to work primarily with server providers, and I know they've contacted at least one Facepunch user already (through Leo). Hard to take anything at face value after all this lol[/QUOTE] [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1521166&highlight=mistforums]Is this the same service that was posted in the GMod forums a few months back? Good times were had there.[/url] [editline]12th September 2016[/editline] Also this: [t]http://i.imgur.com/OIQ68PG.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/AmKb9hl.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=meharryp;51036113][url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1521166&highlight=mistforums]Is this the same service that was posted in the GMod forums a few months back? Good times were had there.[/url] [editline]12th September 2016[/editline] Also this: [t]http://i.imgur.com/OIQ68PG.png[/t] [t]http://i.imgur.com/AmKb9hl.jpg[/t][/QUOTE] Yeah, Raiding Gamers is owned by Leo, but we already know that Leo is/was an administrator at MistForums which would explain the link. Still trying to figure out whether he and RayChamp, the registered owner of MistForums, are actually separate people or not though. Interestingly, Post #30 in the thread you linked is one of Leo's shill alts, giving a glowing review to MistForums lol.

Oh my God he posted a ton of spam once the last part was posted about his name. It's like a fucking phoenix wright case where the guilty guy just goes nuts at the end.

[QUOTE=kariko;51036485]Oh my God he posted a ton of spam once the last part was posted about his name. It's like a fucking phoenix wright case where the guilty guy just goes nuts at the end.[/QUOTE] He devalued that pepe. He's crashing the 4chan economy.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51036242]Yeah, Raiding Gamers is owned by Leo, but we already know that Leo is/was an administrator at MistForums which would explain the link. Still trying to figure out whether he and RayChamp, the registered owner of MistForums, are actually separate people or not though. Interestingly, Post #30 in the thread you linked is one of Leo's shill alts, giving a glowing review to MistForums lol.[/QUOTE] I don't often give Leo the benefit of the doubt, but I think RayChamp and Leo are separate people. Having seen enough of Leo's poor writing style to nearly identify him from a class of third-graders, this looks a little elaborate. Leo has never demonstrated a particular affinity for coding either, by which I mean he [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1262317&p=40334124&viewfull=1#post40334124"]doesn't understand the first thing about computers[/URL]. He often sought the help and advice of other coders to work for his community. (All of which had terrible experiences with him). Leo at one point even 'subtly' [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1262317&p=40348768&viewfull=1#post40348768"]tried to hire somebody to DDoS for him[/URL]; the backpedaling afterwards should have gotten him airborne. RayChamp however has multiple scripts on ScriptFodder which he has been a member of for two years with content a year old. He is a little more polished around the edges than I would ever expect Leo to fabricate, so I think that can be put to rest. Leo puts effort into these aliases, but nothing as tangible as real work. Leo is more than likely just associated with MistForums to attain whatever profit, visibility and reputation he can. I believe this is his usual method of associating with server hosting businesses. I don't know how much of a hand he had in Ewe host operations, but one thing I know for certain is that he had nowhere near the skill-set or knowledge to manage it himself. That was one thing that always puzzled me at the time: How does a child like Leo who doesn't know the first thing about programming one day suddenly start a server hosting business overnight? Unless his true provider managed the rest for him, he was nowhere capable.

[QUOTE=GarrysModRP;51036551]I don't often give Leo the benefit of the doubt, but I think RayChamp and Leo are separate people. Having seen enough of Leo's poor writing style to nearly identify him from a class of third-graders, this looks a little elaborate. Leo has never demonstrated a particular affinity for coding either, by which I mean he [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1262317&p=40334124&viewfull=1#post40334124"]doesn't understand the first thing about computers[/URL]. the He often sought the help of other coders to work for his community. (All of which had terrible experiences with him). RayChamp however has multiple scripts on ScriptFodder which he has been a member of for two years with content a year old. He is a little more polished around the edges than I would ever expect Leo to fabricate, so I think that can be put to rest. Leo puts effort into these aliases, but nothing as tangible as real work. Leo is more than likely just associated with MistForums to attain whatever profit, visibility and reputation he can. I believe this is his usual method of associating with server hosting businesses. I don't know how much of a hand he had in Ewe host operations, but one thing I know for certain is that he had nowhere near the skill-set or knowledge to manage it himself. That was one thing that always puzzled me at the time: How does a child like Leo who doesn't know the first thing about programming one day suddenly start a server hosting business overnight? Unless his true provider managed the rest for him, he was nowhere capable.[/QUOTE] Thanks, dude. Your word is good, and there is no other evidence to directly suggest that Leo was a director. I updated the OP to reflect that MistForums was just caught up in Leo's dumb game, and removed them from the censor list. Even if I'm wrong, I'd rather let a shady service go free than risk tarnishing the reputation of an honest one.