[QUOTE=GodKing;37803218]See I Am Legend.[/QUOTE]
IAL was a piss-poor adaptation of a fantastic book, doesn't really count.
Taxi Driver
10/10. Enough said.
Watchmen
10/10. It ties together my love of superheros and trenchcoats
They could have possibly shortened it a bit (2 hours and 45 minutes long)
but apart from that, fantastic movie.
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also
rorschach, in my opinion, is the best character because they flesh out his storyline, and give you a feel of how he lives.
besides he has a trenchcoat and a hat
[QUOTE=Pops;37808801]IAL was a piss-poor adaptation of a fantastic book, doesn't really count.[/QUOTE]
But the CGI was utterly terrible. If they didn't have CGI infected people, I would have been able to take it more seriously.
[QUOTE=GodKing;37811798]But the CGI was utterly terrible. If they didn't have CGI infected people, I would have been able to take it more seriously.[/QUOTE]
which goes along with it being a piss-poor adaptation. since they weren't vampires, they looked stupid.
Dredd - 10/10; Never heard of the original, but I loved it.
watchmen (movie) was kinda ruined by the whole trying to pin it all on dr manhattan. imo shoulda stayed a book
Looper
fuckin great. 9/10
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;37815044]watchmen (movie) was kinda ruined by the whole trying to pin it all on dr manhattan. imo shoulda stayed a book[/QUOTE]
The pinning it on Dr. Manhatten made a lot more sense. I actually prefer that to the books ending, [sp] The giant psychic tentacled fake alien thing was sort of ridiculous.[/sp]
It was supposed to be ridiculous, it was a rather obvious subversion of the archetypal cartoonish comic book supervillain world domination plot turned inside out.
That's the whole point of the fucking comic book, taking well-defined superhero comic tropes of the 60s and early 70s and deconstructing and warping them until they become perverted and bizarre.
That's also ultimately why Watchmen will never work as a film, it's just not supposed to.
[QUOTE=Cathedral;37818555]It was supposed to be ridiculous, it was a rather obvious subversion of the archetypal cartoonish comic book supervillain world domination plot turned inside out.
That's the whole point of the fucking comic book, taking well-defined superhero comic tropes of the 60s and early 70s and deconstructing and warping them until they become perverted and bizarre.
That's also ultimately why Watchmen will never work as a film, it's just not supposed to.[/QUOTE]
It did work as a film and changing the ending was a big part of making it work. Adaptions don't have to be exactly the same as the original and they don't need to carry the same meanings.
Well Looper was brilliant, a good 9/10. I ordered my tickets days early thinking the cinema would be packed, but there was hardly anyone there.
In any case I'd recommend it to anyone.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;37818994]It did work as a film and changing the ending was a big part of making it work.[/QUOTE]
Not really, there was literally no reason to change the ending except because "the audience is too dumb to get it lol".
It's not like they went the Clockwork Orange route and omitted the final part of the comic so that the ending casts a completely different light on the whole work, it's not like they attempted to turn the ending into commentary on something, they just went and changed it so that the audience wouldn't get confused.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;37818994]Adaptions don't have to be exactly the same as the original and they don't need to carry the same meanings.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the way in which the Watchmen adaptation was approached made it superfluous from the get-go. Not different enough from the source material to constitute as a different take on it, but different enough to take away a lot of the source material's potency in the process of being adapted.
[QUOTE=Xephio;37804848]Why do so many people get to see The Master so early, while I have to wait till December :([/QUOTE] same, I keep trying to not hype myself about it but then my spotify shuffles onto [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsMWFpdNaBk[/media]hhnnnnggg
[QUOTE=Cathedral;37819670]Not really, there was literally no reason to change the ending except because "the audience is too dumb to get it lol".
It's not like they went the Clockwork Orange route and omitted the final part of the comic so that the ending casts a completely different light on the whole work, it's not like they attempted to turn the ending into commentary on something, they just went and changed it so that the audience wouldn't get confused.
Yeah, but the way in which the Watchmen adaptation was approached made it superfluous from the get-go. Not different enough from the source material to constitute as a different take on it, but different enough to take away a lot of the source material's potency in the process of being adapted.[/QUOTE]
you're forgetting that audience is literally the single biggest factor in making a film. everything revolves around that. they know that not everyone who goes to see watchmen will have read the graphic novel. most people won't have. the original ending won't have worked for a lot of the audience I reckon, due to it being thought of as too silly or out there or whatever. also, [sp] you say changing the story changed the point of the comic. I disagree. it does still turn normal comics on their head-the bad guy(arguable actually- antagonist yes. morally unsound yes. evil? I wouldnt say so. heartless fucker but not evil. greater good and all that) wins completely. there's no new equilibrium or anything like that. the heroes lost, pure and simple. 10 million people died. maybe not by an alien but how isn't totally relevant.[/sp] it accomplished the same.
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also when does the master come out in the UK? really want to see it but I've not heard a lot about it.
went up town to renew by buspass just now, passed hmv on the way to the bus back. went in just for a look since I just spent 40 quid on a buspass. bought 50/50 and the fighter. fucking 2 or a tenner deals always catch me. gonna watch them today probably, and 127 hours which I got 2 days ago but haven't found the time to watch.
gonna see looper tomorrow as well and if there's anything interesting on at the local indie cinema I might catch something there. evil dead 2 is playing there Saturday at 2330 which I am definitely fucking catching. can't wait to see half that shit on the big screen!
[QUOTE=Cathedral;37819670]Not really, there was literally no reason to change the ending except because "the audience is too dumb to get it lol".
It's not like they went the Clockwork Orange route and omitted the final part of the comic so that the ending casts a completely different light on the whole work, it's not like they attempted to turn the ending into commentary on something, they just went and changed it so that the audience wouldn't get confused.
Yeah, but the way in which the Watchmen adaptation was approached made it superfluous from the get-go. Not different enough from the source material to constitute as a different take on it, but different enough to take away a lot of the source material's potency in the process of being adapted.[/QUOTE]
It isn't that the audience is too dumb to get it, although that is probably an element, it is just a ridiculous ending and would look awful on screen. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere before the film came out that part of the reason they changed the ending is so that people who have read the comic don't know exactly what is going to happen as well.
[sp]Kind of sad at the end where rorschach got killed off.[/sp]
Dante's Peak 71/100
I think it was quite good for it's time. When I saw it the first time, I liked it, watched it again today, it's not that good anymore, since it's got the music from the "Stock Movie Music Collection", but it was still quite cool seeing the place get torn apart from lava and the aftermath where the entire area is in ashes.
Not to mention the film was still enjoyable.
[QUOTE=Rusty100;37817924]Looper
fuckin great. 9/10[/QUOTE]
you seem to love every movie gordon levitt is in
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can't blame you tho, they're all great
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;37820379]you're forgetting that audience is literally the single biggest factor in making a film. everything revolves around that. they know that not everyone who goes to see watchmen will have read the graphic novel. most people won't have. the original ending won't have worked for a lot of the audience I reckon, due to it being thought of as too silly or out there or whatever.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah but that doesn't change the fact that they could have pulled it off a lot better than they did, they could have at least tried to retain the reasoning behind the original ending if not the execution itself.
And the original ending would have been a far better fit for the overall tone of the movie anyway, what with being, y'know, the original ending.
[QUOTE=mikeyt493;37820379]also, [sp] you say changing the story changed the point of the comic. I disagree. it does still turn normal comics on their head-the bad guy(arguable actually- antagonist yes. morally unsound yes. evil? I wouldnt say so. heartless fucker but not evil. greater good and all that) wins completely. there's no new equilibrium or anything like that. the heroes lost, pure and simple. 10 million people died. maybe not by an alien but how isn't totally relevant.[/sp] it accomplished the same.[/QUOTE]
Well it didn't really change the point of the comic as much as it stripped a fair bit of charm and depth away from it. The [sp]squid alien mutant thingy[/sp] really came off as something that you'd expect Lex Luthor to pull off in an old Superman comic, and combined with the fact that [sp]Ozymandias' plan actually succeeds and millions of people die in absolutely horrible fashion as a result[/sp] makes the whole thing work perfectly as the grand finale both to the comic and to the point that the comic was trying to make the entire time.
The movie's ending just comes off as hackneyed, lazy and slapped on at the last minute without any real thought put into it.
[QUOTE=squids_eye;37820512]It isn't that the audience is too dumb to get it, although that is probably an element, it is just a ridiculous ending and would look awful on screen. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere before the film came out that part of the reason they changed the ending is so that people who have read the comic don't know exactly what is going to happen as well.[/QUOTE]
As I said, at least they could have tried to make it more in sync with the core ideas behind the source material if they didn't want to just copy the ending as it was.
Goon gay porn hard/10. Watched it because I read an announcement on Goon 2 and all the comments were "It cannot be as good as the first." I enjoyed the comedy through out it but the overall story was weak. Worth a watch at least.
[QUOTE=DrBreen;37821900]you seem to love every movie gordon levitt is in
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can't blame you tho, they're all great[/QUOTE]
its cos he fuckin owns. one of the best actors of the 21st century easy. only film ive seen of his I didn't really like was Brick. seemed a bit dumb and silly to me. same director as looper though which I'm seriously looking forward to.
just watched 50/50 it was really good
[QUOTE=Cathedral;37822115]Well yeah but that doesn't change the fact that they could have pulled it off a lot better than they did, they could have at least tried to retain the reasoning behind the original ending if not the execution itself.
And the original ending would have been a far better fit for the overall tone of the movie anyway, what with being, y'know, the original ending.
Well it didn't really change the point of the comic as much as it stripped a fair bit of charm and depth away from it. The [sp]squid alien mutant thingy[/sp] really came off as something that you'd expect Lex Luthor to pull off in an old Superman comic, and combined with the fact that [sp]Ozymandias' plan actually succeeds and millions of people die in absolutely horrible fashion as a result[/sp] makes the whole thing work perfectly as the grand finale both to the comic and to the point that the comic was trying to make the entire time.
The movie's ending just comes off as hackneyed, lazy and slapped on at the last minute without any real thought put into it.
As I said, at least they could have tried to make it more in sync with the core ideas behind the source material if they didn't want to just copy the ending as it was.[/QUOTE]
If you wana go hardcore nerd, the bombs were called the Sub-Quantum Unifying Intrinsic Device, so the squid was technically still in the movie.
Also, on your little Clockwork bit, they didn't include that horrible epilogue because that chapter itself destroyed the entire book.
There's more to it than just that but alright, I am outnerded.
Also, the reason why they omitted the epilogue was because Kubrick read an edition of the book that omitted it as well and wasn't even aware of the existence of an epilogue until after the movie came out.
the reason the last chapter in a clockwork orange was omitted was because it was stupid and terrible and ruined the entire point of the book. it was only put in by Anthony Burgess because the publishing companies didn't want it ending the way it did due to its connotations nd possible influences on people and stuff so he half assed a shitty ending just to get the book on the shelves. (which makes sense as he literally only wrote a clockwork orange over a couple weeks/months so he could earn a quick buck since he was in a bit of financial trouble. he doesn't hold the book in high regard. he doesn't hate it or anything but he doesn't think its anything that great and far from his best work)
[QUOTE=Rusty100;37817924]Looper
fuckin great. 9/10[/QUOTE]
it's good news when rusty likes a movie
finally saw avengers, was way better than i expected it to be (since imo only the iron man movies were good and the hulk movie doesn't really count since that had ed norton). liked it as much as TDKR i think, maybe a little less. i'm a sucker for emotional core movies and i didn't feel anything with avengers, but avengers got the whole "more than 1 super hero on screen not being awkward" thing down (in TDKR i find it really awkward when catwoman and batman are just walking places casually)
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going to try to see the prestige tomorrow and maybe looper this weekend
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that or dredd
also avengers would've topped tdkr if black widow actually drove that floaty thing with her tits rather than control the driver. honestly thought she was doing to for a second
I watched The Machinist and Memento, I'd give them both 9/10 because ohgodtwists
and the fact that they are beautiful movies with beautiful actors (christian bale be mine <3)
christian bales one of the greatest actors of the last few decades easy. only time i was disappointed in his performance was terminator salvation (not that it was a bad performance- just not up to par. He sets the bar pretty high.) but I think it's because that film was done totally on green screen and bale is a method actor so it'd be much harder for him. plus overall the film wasn't very good.
Anyway I went to see Looper today. fucking brilliant. really smart, and a great ending. unquestionably film of the year. totally beats out rises, the avengers and cabin in the woods.
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