I wanted to get into FPV since the other thread about it but it seemed REALLY expensive to me (with fixed winged craft) since I am not willing to build a frame from foam (for a plane). And I live in a city / nearish to an airport / would really just like someone to have made a parts list for me. Maybe in a few years when I have a paying job and am done with school. :(
I could really do with a list of parts I need to buy, I'm rubbish at all this research.
I've also been looking through Hobby King. RC stuff is one of those things I'd like to get into once I have some money to throw around.
[QUOTE=Dokaman;33497732]The motors you originally wanted to get are fine, ESC's are not though.
My top two multi copters (my quad and my tri) are running those motors and those speed controllers. Both are flawless.
If you need any more help, let me know![/QUOTE]
Neat, I ordered the motors I posted and hopefully I will order the similar ESC's that you've mentioned although with lower current.
I had no idea there were such important features in the ESC's, thought an voltage alarm was enough :v:
As most of the people here in this thread I find this really awesome and want to get in it, but I have no knowledge of anything about it really.
I did some reading though and I'll try and make a parts list and post that here. It will be based on one of those pre-made frames, since I can't really make anything myself.
The more I think about this the more excited I get :v:
I must tell you guys one thing. If you're ordering a lot of stuff check with your mail office if they add VAT.
Just got a letter from my mail office that demands me to fork out $30 due to a things I ordered online.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;33535732]I must tell you guys one thing. If you're ordering a lot of stuff check with your mail office if they add VAT.
Just got a letter from my mail office that demands me to fork out $30 due to a things I ordered online.[/QUOTE]
What. Did you order them from china or something?
I modelled this in Inventor few weeks ago to seve as centerplate for our multicopter. It will have diameter of 18 centimeters and will be cut out of probably 3mm thick glass fibre plate. Two of these will hold the whole thing together, mainly the carbon composite prisms for arms.
[img]http://sinus.cz/~milan/centerplate.png[/img]
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;33535742]What. Did you order them from china or something?[/QUOTE]
All or most HobbyKing products are shipped from Hong Kong I think. Mine was from Hong Kong.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;33536176]All or most HobbyKing products are shipped from Hong Kong I think. Mine was from Hong Kong.[/QUOTE]
You should email them next time and ask if they can put a sticker over their company name. DX does this and it greatly decreases the chance that they charge import costs.
Also you can tell them to put the value of the package as something it's not.
Anything under eighteen dollars will not get import duty ;) Also if the item is classed as a gift, it will not get import duty.
[QUOTE=Dokaman;33536852][b]Also you can tell them to put the value of the package as something it's not.[/b]
Anything under eighteen dollars will not get import duty ;) Also if the item is classed as a gift, it will not get import duty.[/QUOTE]
And risking a severe fine? Don't think they'd do that.
Hey Swebonny, very interested in the Multicopter you are building. I was wondering if you could make a new post that has the list of everything in your project currently?
[QUOTE=mobrockers2;33536956]And risking a severe fine? Don't think they'd do that.[/QUOTE]
Oh really?
This is still a good thread. Swebo, spill the beans: how goes the multicopter?
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;33713792]This is still a good thread. Swebo, spill the beans: how goes the multicopter?[/QUOTE]
I just picked up the motors actually, after paying another $24 in taxes :v: Seems like they got an eye on me or something. Anyhow no big deal.
Here's what I got:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DyVQE.jpg[/IMG]
4 motors.
A voltage detector.
And some glue. I want to add some more glue to the frame.
Here's another picture:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qAXhf.jpg[/IMG]
As you see I'm doing it really slow. But once I get my wage, I'm probably going to order everything in one go.
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[QUOTE=cottonwaxy;33539276]Hey Swebonny, very interested in the Multicopter you are building. I was wondering if you could make a new post that has the list of everything in your project currently?[/QUOTE]
Going to do that soon.
[editline]16th December 2011[/editline]
The control board.
[url]http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=19534[/url]
The frame:
[url]http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=16583[/url]
The propellers, I'm most likely going to order a bigger ones as these below are quite small.
[url]http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11331[/url]
Voltage detector, not really a must.
[url]http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=13276[/url]
The motors. 4 of them.
[url]http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=5687[/url]
And normal cyanoacrylate glue, aka superglue. You can get it pretty much everywhere.
So yeah in the end you're (not you specifically just anyone getting into the hobby) still in this over $100 after the remote. Seems about the same price as planes, the FPV stuff is where it starts getting really really expensive though...
Yeah, I'm way over $100 if shipping or other fees are going to be included.
are you a alien???
The FPV costs and the cost of a good controller are what make me uneasy. I'd love to give this a try, but I'm a broke-ass college student! I could reasonably afford two or three hundred bucks, but beyond that, I'd be dipping too far into my "uh oh" money.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;33753234]The FPV costs and the cost of a good controller are what make me uneasy. I'd love to give this a try, but I'm a broke-ass college student! I could reasonably afford two or three hundred bucks, but beyond that, I'd be dipping too far into my "uh oh" money.[/QUOTE]
Depending on what you want to do with it really does depend on the cost, I have a super fast field flyer fully FPV'ed and the whole set up including the controller is around 130 dollars. I have taken it to FPV meetings and every time it has been a favourite. Controllers can be picked up on eBay quite cheap.
The only part of the FPV side of things that is expensive is the video display. I tend to use video goggles which do cost quite a lot but again, you can snap some up on eBay really cheap. (I will post some of the ones I have in my next post)
Swe, don't be worried about going to slow. The slower the better, you will end up with a much better Quad at the end of it. Keep us updated!
I've been looking up how to connect the ESC and the motor and other stuff. This video is really good.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWItbhW7b6c[/media]
[video=youtube;hU0_tGHlR7g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU0_tGHlR7g[/video]
Absolutely awesome Multicopter video, in the Everglades of Florida.
(Note, Alligators (or crocodiles?) included in video. A.K.A. Extra awesomesauce)
I've always wanted to build one of these, but using my power source of choice would mean a rather complicated transmission is required. Either that, or several tiny little Cox engines with throttles.
How easy are they to fly?
[QUOTE=BrutalSnyper;33795764][video=youtube;hU0_tGHlR7g]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU0_tGHlR7g[/video]
Absolutely awesome Multicopter video, in the Everglades of Florida.
(Note, Alligators (or crocodiles?) included in video. A.K.A. Extra awesomesauce)[/QUOTE]
Alligators.
Also seems quite dangerous for the multi copter. Crocodiles and alligators can jump quite high and this guy was flying within reach.
[QUOTE=joost1120;33796848]Alligators.
Also seems quite dangerous for the multi copter. Crocodiles and alligators can jump quite high and this guy was flying within reach.[/QUOTE]
Worth the risk, it's an awesome video.
This thread makes me want a realistic RC V-22 Osprey.
Wait why the fuck was there a tiger
First actual physical work done on our quadrocopter.
[img_thumb]http://sinus.cz/~milan/photos/quadroskelet/arms.jpg[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://sinus.cz/~milan/photos/quadroskelet/centerplates.jpg[/img_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://sinus.cz/~milan/photos/quadroskelet/quadroskelet.jpg[/img_thumb]
Fibreglass and carbon, bitch.
It weights about 220grams, from tip of one arm to tip of the opposite, it's approximately about 50cm.
[editline]20th December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=TestECull;33796712]I've always wanted to build one of these, but using my power source of choice would mean a rather complicated transmission is required. Either that, or several tiny little Cox engines with throttles.
How easy are they to fly?[/QUOTE]
Don't even think of building one of these with combustion engine. It's pointless, it's senseless, it's ridiculously complicated.
At least the MikroKopter control board changes the throttle on the electrical engine several times during SINGLE TURN of the propeller. You simply cannot get precise enough throttle management on a combustion engine.
Combustion engines would become feasible at much much bigger designs, where the slow reaction would be sufficient to stabilize the heavier, clumsier craft, but there's no chance you would get it working at these small scales.
[editline]20th December 2011[/editline]
If you have a boner for combustion engines, interesting idea I am pondering about for some time would be using normal electric engines for propulsion, and single bigger combustion engine with a generator, which would recharge the battery. That should be doable, and would be rather cool.
[QUOTE=Dokaman;32659155]There are a few guides to making your own or you can buy them pre-built
[url]http://www.kkmulticopter.com/[/url]
I really really really don't recommend buying a pre-built one. Building one your self you know exactly what has gone into it and you have much chance of fixing it. [B]Also home made can cost less then 30 dollars, pre-built are hugely expensive[/B]. [/QUOTE]
TELL ME HOW PLEASE
I wanted to build one, then I went to the site you linked and the controller board is £75.00 alone, not to mention the motors, controllers and everything else.
Even if I bought the barebones PCB, I could never find a store that sells all the specialized parts like gyros & whatnot.
And I don't have a hot air soldering station, which is kinda necessary for SMD parts
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