Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;42322824]The tests look for cannabinoids, even though marinol is synthetic THC, it's still a cannabinoid.
So yes. Not to mention it's pure THC, no other cannabinoids to smooth out the experience.
That's why smoking JWH synthetics sucks unless you have a good blend of them.[/QUOTE]no, that's not why synthetic cannabinoids suck. they're terrible because of their nature, not because it's not a blend
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42329852]no, that's not why synthetic cannabinoids suck. they're terrible because of their nature, not because it's not a blend[/QUOTE]
Or their lack of nature. :v:
I think synthetic cannabinoids are shitty because they're full agonists rather than partial agonists of cannabinoid receptors.
[QUOTE=AaronTAB;42329115][url]if you have a penis be careful[/url] (that's quite a rare reaction but is certainly possible in others)
Trazodone has little to no recreational value, but it is the best sleep aid available. It does not interfere with REM sleep. It could make you feel tired, but it's not a fun downer; it's an "I'd better get to bed or I'm going to wake up on the floor" downer. Its action comes primarily from being an antagonist (blocker) at the serotonin-2A and alpha-adrenaline-1 receptors. It is technically only FDA-approved as an antidepressant, but in practice it is nearly always prescribed only as a sleep aid. Note that trazodone has a long half-life -- it takes up to three days for 70% of it to be eliminated from your system.
Adderall is amphetamine. You'll feel very energetic and focused, like you can conquer the world. After about four to six hours, you'll likely feel like crap (tired, sad) unless you redose. Primarily, it is a serotonin reuptake inhibitor, a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, and a dopamine releaser.[/QUOTE]
Very informing, planning on taking one adderall or so, then cleaning my room and watching a movie. Thanks!
[QUOTE=AaronTAB;42329115][URL="http://if you have a penis be careful"]if you have a penis be careful[/URL] (that's quite a rare reaction but is certainly possible in others)
Trazodone has little to no recreational value, but it is the best sleep aid available. It does not interfere with REM sleep. It could make you feel tired, but it's not a fun downer; it's an "I'd better get to bed or I'm going to wake up on the floor" downer. Its action comes primarily from being an antagonist (blocker) at the serotonin-2A and alpha-adrenaline-1 receptors. It is technically only FDA-approved as an antidepressant, but in practice it is nearly always prescribed only as a sleep aid. Note that trazodone has a long half-life -- it takes up to three days for 70% of it to be eliminated from your system.
Adderall is amphetamine. You'll feel very energetic and focused, like you can conquer the world. After about four to six hours, you'll likely feel like crap (tired, sad) unless you redose. Primarily, it is a serotonin reuptake inhibitor, a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, and a dopamine releaser.[/QUOTE]
I dunno about the feeling like crap bit, unless you do alot, otherwise you're just lacking motivation... I'm on adderall right now, it's fun, you should try it, just start slow (by slow I mean start at around 20mg and work your way up in increments of 10mg), and if you have had any past heart issues, I wouldn't fuck with it. PS: Snort it if you want to get a noticable rush and it'll still last just about as long considering most of it just goes down your throat anyways and it helps to recognize what an amphetamine high feels like so you can know if you want more or not, sooner, therefore safer as far as taking more than you're comfortable with goes.
[editline]27th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42329852]no, that's not why synthetic cannabinoids suck. they're terrible because of their nature, not because it's not a blend[/QUOTE]
It's also like the chemical is just fucking your head inside and out, more of a trip than a high to me, way more morbid than straight up bud.
I have a question too though, considering it's going to be late when I come down on this adderall, I'd like to fall asleep right when I'm able to. This being said, would 50mg DPH do anything bad or mix with the adderall in some dangerous or bad way?
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42329852]no, that's not why synthetic cannabinoids suck. they're terrible because of their nature, not because it's not a blend[/QUOTE]
Try a blend sometime, I dabbled with K2 a while back and IIRC all of them were JWH-018 alone, but some of the other brands had a blend of different JWH at lower levels, much like the blend of cannabinoids found in sweet mary jane.
It's not pot, not close, but it's definitely a lot better than straight JWH-018
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42329852]no, that's not why synthetic cannabinoids suck. they're terrible because of their nature, not because it's not a blend[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;42330587]Or their lack of nature. :v:
I think synthetic cannabinoids are shitty because they're full agonists rather than partial agonists of cannabinoid receptors.[/QUOTE]
I think you are both very opinionated by judging how objectively "shitty" something is in the first place, not to mention generalizing hundreds if not thousands of different cannabinoids probably based on personal experience with a handful.
How about just accepting the fact it's different from weed rather than judging it negatively based on this difference?
Ever since I whited out really badly two weeks ago something about me just doesn't feel right, but I can't seem to point out what it exactly is, sometimes I feel exactly like I did when I was whiting out, it's like I go through periods of being dissociated from myself, I can zone out easy and forget what is happening around, and I get really zoned into what I'm thinking. It also feels like I didn't exist before I whited out. I also feel detached from my body and I have periods of just feeling like I don't exist. What's going on? It's really freaking me out, and I can feel the anxiety building up in my chest like I want to have a panic attack, could I have experienced ego death?
So yesterday it was kinda cold and I got really damn shakey throughout the day, when I came home I felt a bit sick - I'm guessing it's just a cold but I haven't really been properly sick for a long time and I did shrooms last wednesday, doubt it's that but who knows.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;42333153]I think you are both very opinionated by judging how objectively "shitty" something is in the first place, not to mention generalizing hundreds if not thousands of different cannabinoids probably based on personal experience with a handful.
How about just accepting the fact it's different from weed rather than judging it negatively based on this difference?[/QUOTE]
They only exist because people want a legal alternative to weed. It makes perfect sense to compare them. People have had seizures on the majority of the JWH compounds and it concerns me when an alternative to weed can cause a potentially life-threatening incident.
[editline]28th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42333849]So yesterday it was kinda cold and I got really damn shakey throughout the day, when I came home I felt a bit sick - I'm guessing it's just a cold but I haven't really been properly sick for a long time and I did shrooms last wednesday, doubt it's that but who knows.[/QUOTE]
Your immune system will be hit by anything that drains your serotonin but I don't think mushrooms are anywhere near as bad for this as MDMA. There's a hypothesis that this is nature's way of influencing the death of people who are always depressed, as we know that this often results in lowered levels of serotonin. A recent study showed anxious mice formed GABA neural networks which inhibited serotonin release when they lost a fight with another mouse. This was reversible by removing these neurons. I have no idea how they did that part though.
"There's a hypothesis that this is nature's way of influencing the death of people who are always depressed"
What does that mean?
[QUOTE=Leader of Me;42333533]Ever since I whited out really badly two weeks ago something about me just doesn't feel right, but I can't seem to point out what it exactly is, sometimes I feel exactly like I did when I was whiting out, it's like I go through periods of being dissociated from myself, I can zone out easy and forget what is happening around, and I get really zoned into what I'm thinking. It also feels like I didn't exist before I whited out. I also feel detached from my body and I have periods of just feeling like I don't exist. What's going on? It's really freaking me out, and I can feel the anxiety building up in my chest like I want to have a panic attack, could I have experienced ego death?[/QUOTE]
Derealization/depersonalization, and you most certainly didn't if at least most likely did NOT experience ego death with weed. You freaked the fuck out, and now your worried, either consciously or subconsciously, that you will have another panic attack or "white out". You're dealing with what's called anticipatory anxiety, worrying about what could happen, even though there's no real reason to worry. You must've just gotten pretty shaken from your green out is all, just lay off the weed for a week and all should be well. Just keep busy.
I feel like doing some DXM, but i feel a little anxious about it.
Any tips? I think i will aim for 2nd plateau.
Never done it before.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42334332]"There's a hypothesis that this is nature's way of influencing the death of people who are always depressed"
What does that mean?[/QUOTE]
Well, those who are depressed will have a suppressed immune system as a result of less serotonin in many cases. It's not confirmed but makes a lot of sense to me. Adds some credence to the idea that people who have things in their life in old age tend to live longer, too.
UPDATE: I took 2 XR pills with 15mg last night, started watching office space and fell asleep :/ Does this mean I have ADD? I'm think on taking 15 mg when I go on this scavenger/walking through downtown/ lock-in my friends and I are going to. I may have fell asleep because it was midnight on the couch, so should i be able to take it and have fun with my friends without crashing?
EDIT: I also had a large cup of coffee so did the caffeine do something???
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;42338229]Well, those who are depressed will have a suppressed immune system as a result of less serotonin in many cases. It's not confirmed but makes a lot of sense to me. Adds some credence to the idea that people who have things in their life in old age tend to live longer, too.[/QUOTE]
Oh, I get you now. It makes sense, yeah.
[QUOTE=yy958;42338494]UPDATE: I took 2 XR pills with 15mg last night, started watching office space and fell asleep :/ Does this mean I have ADD? I'm think on taking 15 mg when I go on this scavenger/walking through downtown/ lock-in my friends and I are going to. I may have fell asleep because it was midnight on the couch, so should i be able to take it and have fun with my friends without crashing?
EDIT: I also had a large cup of coffee so did the caffeine do something???[/QUOTE]
Amphetamine doesn't work as a sleep-aid for people with ADD/ADHD. Sufferers sometimes describe it as 'calming' their brain down, as those with AD(H)D often have scattered thoughts, but it's still a stimulant. I find it hard to believe you could fall asleep after taking 30mg amphetamine if you don't have a tolerance and haven't taken any depressants.
[QUOTE=zach1193;42334394]Derealization/depersonalization, and you most certainly didn't if at least most likely did NOT experience ego death with weed. You freaked the fuck out, and now your worried, either consciously or subconsciously, that you will have another panic attack or "white out". You're dealing with what's called anticipatory anxiety, worrying about what could happen, even though there's no real reason to worry. You must've just gotten pretty shaken from your green out is all, just lay off the weed for a week and all should be well. Just keep busy.[/QUOTE]
I know it may all be in my head but it really is freaking me out, I don't know what the fuck is going on, every time I think back to that night everything just starts feeling weird again.
I think that happened to me after my first time smoking. I smoked a fuckload of bud and some BHO for 3 days straight, and for the next week or two I was totally out of it in a similar way.
I got over it eventually, though. I just tried to get used to it and even embrace it until it receded.
How much do you think drinking too much is?
I've gone through half a bottle of vodka just from about 3pm to now.
[editline]A time relatively close, in a place not so far away.[/editline]
For nAryies that's a 750ml bottle.
[QUOTE=Uncle Yar;42341823]I think that happened to me after my first time smoking. I smoked a fuckload of bud and some BHO for 3 days straight, and for the next week or two I was totally out of it in a similar way.
I got over it eventually, though. I just tried to get used to it and even embrace it until it receded.[/QUOTE]
It's really starting to get to me, I thought it happened about 3 - 4 weeks ago but I just checked my Facebook messages and it turns out it was two weeks ago exactly, it feels so long ago though.
[QUOTE=Leader of Me;42341740]I know it may all be in my head but it really is freaking me out, I don't know what the fuck is going on, every time I think back to that night everything just starts feeling weird again.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, just keep busy and don't think about it. It's really nothing, but if you're really that concerned like you don't feel ok, then go talk to a doctor, none of us are.
If you don't want to take prescription drugs orally then really the cleanest and one of the most effective ways is up your clacker (suppository)!
If that's not your thing then injecting is good for an instant rush but you must use a pill filter or you will get abscesses. You can get pill filter from needle exchanges or the pharmacy.
That being said, injecting paracetamol is just going to give you a headache, get some real drugs!:wink:
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Bump [With Enthusiasm to add to conversation because you all are high too.]
Would ketamine and acid mixed together be cool?
And then hitting nos on top of that shit
Hey guys, I have a problem and I can't figure out how to help for the life of me.
My friend is an avid pot smoker. He got caught with a couple times, but nothing really major. The only problem is, he smokes at least once a day, every day. Personally, I don't know what the consequences are of doing it so frequently are, but what I can tell is that he's coughing up what I think is mucus and other stuff among those.
I can understand that he likes smoking, but a lot of people, including his girlfriend, are telling him that it's not good that he smokes so often, and he pulls the typical "know-it-all college kid" routine by responding with the rant explaining how pot is not bad for you, but nowhere does he mention anything about frequent use.
I'm saying he should quit, I just want him to cut down for his health, and because his girlfriend (who is a close friend of mine) is visually upset by his smoking habits and hates his know-it-all attitude about almost everything (which I could say did probably come from his pot use, since he wasn't like this when he smoked less frequently).
Does anyone have any good advice on getting him to cut down, even if it takes a long time? Or something that his girlfriend can do to get him to cut down? I should mention that she's too afraid of losing him if she decides to take action against his frequent smoking.
Tell him to check this forum and we'll tell him that it's not actually healthy to do it everyday, the fact that he's coughing up stuff should be an [B]obvious[/B] indicator of that - which makes me think he probably knows it's bad for him and to keep telling him that it's bad for him isn't really gonna get you anywhere. I don't know, get some references, show him some studies and articles on how smoking everyday affects your lunges?
[QUOTE=huntingrifle;42347734]Hey guys, I have a problem and I can't figure out how to help for the life of me.
My friend is an avid pot smoker. He got caught with a couple times, but nothing really major. The only problem is, he smokes at least once a day, every day. Personally, I don't know what the consequences are of doing it so frequently are, but what I can tell is that he's coughing up what I think is mucus and other stuff among those.
I can understand that he likes smoking, but a lot of people, including his girlfriend, are telling him that it's not good that he smokes so often, and he pulls the typical "know-it-all college kid" routine by responding with the rant explaining how pot is not bad for you, but nowhere does he mention anything about frequent use.
I'm saying he should quit, I just want him to cut down for his health, and because his girlfriend (who is a close friend of mine) is visually upset by his smoking habits and hates his know-it-all attitude about almost everything (which I could say did probably come from his pot use, since he wasn't like this when he smoked less frequently).
Does anyone have any good advice on getting him to cut down, even if it takes a long time? Or something that his girlfriend can do to get him to cut down? I should mention that she's too afraid of losing him if she decides to take action against his frequent smoking.[/QUOTE]
It's not great for your lungs but AFAIK if it's just pot it's not carcinogenic. I smoked 5-6 joints a day for a year and a half but rarely smoke these days. It's something you have to choose to do, or not do yourself.
i'm pretty sure weed smoke is carcinogenic
[QUOTE=huntingrifle;42347734]Hey guys, I have a problem and I can't figure out how to help for the life of me.
My friend is an avid pot smoker. He got caught with a couple times, but nothing really major. The only problem is, he smokes at least once a day, every day. Personally, I don't know what the consequences are of doing it so frequently are, but what I can tell is that he's coughing up what I think is mucus and other stuff among those.
I can understand that he likes smoking, but a lot of people, including his girlfriend, are telling him that it's not good that he smokes so often, and he pulls the typical "know-it-all college kid" routine by responding with the rant explaining how pot is not bad for you, but nowhere does he mention anything about frequent use.
I'm saying he should quit, I just want him to cut down for his health, and because his girlfriend (who is a close friend of mine) is visually upset by his smoking habits and hates his know-it-all attitude about almost everything (which I could say did probably come from his pot use, since he wasn't like this when he smoked less frequently).
Does anyone have any good advice on getting him to cut down, even if it takes a long time? Or something that his girlfriend can do to get him to cut down? I should mention that she's too afraid of losing him if she decides to take action against his frequent smoking.[/QUOTE]
There's really nothing wrong with smoking everyday as far as I see. Sure there's the small issues you mentioned, like occasional coughing and mucus, but that's really as far as it goes, he's not gonna just drop dead any day soon from smoking weed daily. Now if he's fucking up his life, missing work, being anti social, then you can maybe put it by him, but other than that if he's still doing just fine for him, it's none of your business or his girlfriend's. If she doesn't like that he smokes everyday then break up with him, it's what he wants to do and no one can force him to stop, he has to decide for himself it's the right thing to do.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;42339812]Amphetamine doesn't work as a sleep-aid for people with ADD/ADHD. Sufferers sometimes describe it as 'calming' their brain down, as those with AD(H)D often have scattered thoughts, but it's still a stimulant. I find it hard to believe you could fall asleep after taking 30mg amphetamine if you don't have a tolerance and haven't taken any depressants.[/QUOTE]
Same here, it's kind of funny to think that I'm a person who fell asleep on speed XD well maybe in the future I will try again in the morning or something :p
[editline]29th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=iwork3daysaweek;42346892]Would ketamine and acid mixed together be cool?
And then hitting nos on top of that shit[/QUOTE]
It would definitely be cool, but I would suggest checking that those chemicals will be able to mix without a chemical reaction or an OD, because there is shit ready to fly when someone mixes 3 chems without any knowledge..
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