• Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=June;42418974]I've had access to 2cb for long time but i've been iffy on trying it because i've heard it does cause nausea, and i feel like something like that could cause bad vibes while tripping. Is it manageable or something I should stay away from? I'm curious to try it i've heard it's like a cross between shrooms and mdma.[/QUOTE] That's why you plug 2c's, no nausea and almost instant come up, win/win.
[QUOTE=Satansick;42452909]Do you guys ever accidently take hard drugs when drunk/high? How can I learn to control myself?[/QUOTE] Fuck the phrase "hard drugs". Anything is safe if you can do it right, and anything is dangerous if you do it wrong. Give it all a try, just do it right, avoid needles and moderate your intake.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;42457769]Fuck the phrase "hard drugs". Anything is safe if you can do it right, and anything is dangerous if you do it wrong. Give it all a try, just do it right, avoid needles and moderate your intake.[/QUOTE] Nah, there's something about the hard drugs, you enjoy em more, the effects are overall better. But what everyone defines as "hard" is a little varied, for instance I don't find amphetamines a hard drug.
[QUOTE=zach1193;42459624]Nah, there's something about the hard drugs, you enjoy em more, the effects are overall better. But what everyone defines as "hard" is a little varied, for instance I don't find amphetamines a hard drug.[/QUOTE] I think any drug that can be addictive would be considered, by the public, a "hard" drug.
[QUOTE=thecat100;42460127]I think any drug that can be addictive would be considered, by the public, a "hard" drug.[/QUOTE] In other words practically all drugs?
I think what defines a hard drug is a drug that you can easily overdose on. At least to me that's what defines a hard drug. And no, it is not subjective. Any substance that can kill you if you take enough in one sitting is a hard drug, personal mettle does not factor into such things, as that only makes the concept more abstract and based upon personal status. So there, a hard drug is a drug which is potent enough for you to overdose on it within reason (yes, i know you can od on thc and lsd, but thats the realm i call beyond reason, having to either smoke a truckload or ingest like ten thousand dollars worth of it does not allow it to qualify) in one sitting.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;42460440]I think what defines a hard drug is a drug that you can easily overdose on. At least to me that's what defines a hard drug. And no, it is not subjective. Any substance that can kill you if you take enough in one sitting is a hard drug, personal mettle does not factor into such things, as that only makes the concept more abstract and based upon personal status. So there, a hard drug is a drug which is potent enough for you to overdose on it within reason (yes, i know you can od on thc and lsd, but thats the realm i call beyond reason, having to either smoke a truckload or ingest like ten thousand dollars worth of it does not allow it to qualify) in one sitting.[/QUOTE] It is still a subjective definition even if it is structured on a certain type of logic since "hard drugs" is such a loose concept to begin with, and you are subjectively picking out what kind of logic you will go by when distinguishing hard drugs (in this case the viability of a fatal overdose), something that is far from universally agreed upon. That said with your definition it would mean the pricing of a substance directly influences whether it is a hard drug or not (like the LSD example). Say if heroin was to become so ridiculously expensive that it would cost tens of thousands of dollars to overdose on it, would it then be a soft drug? Not the best example but hopefully you understand where I'm getting at. In my personal opinion there is no such thing as hard drugs or soft drugs, only drugs. Some drugs are more dangerous than others in different respects but that does not mean you can simply draw a line and say "anything "more dangerous" than this is a hard drug", as this is a gross oversimplification and pretty much just an attempt to dumb down the complexities of drugs so people can easily cast judgement without second thought. Besides, who is to judge where you can draw this line and based on what criteria?
[QUOTE=TCB;42456686]anyone have any experience with mdma + alcohol (+weed)? i've read that alcohol negates the effects of mdma (and we all know about the drinking-too-fast deaths) but i'd like some personal opinions.[/QUOTE] My first time with mdma I was drinking throughout the night (not too heavy, just a some beer at the start and some wine every now and then) as well as smoking a fair bit. It was definitely a fucking awesome time, just remember to stay hydrated ('cause that alcohol is gonna dry your shit up doubly given how active you're gonna be). [editline]9th October 2013[/editline] It was like being drunk and high, only everything is 100x more incredible and euphoric. I don't know for sure but weed may help potentiate some of the more psychedelic effects of MDMA
[QUOTE=TCB;42456686]anyone have any experience with mdma + alcohol (+weed)? i've read that alcohol negates the effects of mdma (and we all know about the drinking-too-fast deaths) but i'd like some personal opinions.[/QUOTE] Drinking a couple of beers isn't that bad, most of the time I don't do it because I really do not like to drink anything while doing mdma. Weed on the other hand is a whole different story. Weed + MDMA can make you trip Very, Very Hard. Last time after a party where I didn't even do that much M I smoked 2 pretty big and strong bowls and half a hash joint after coming back home. After sitting on the couch I noticed I was getting hotter and hotter, after a while I couldn't move and my vision was getting blurred. I noticed ripples in my vision, the same ripples you see coming of really hot surfaces. Anyway I found it really enjoyable but if that would have happened my first, second or even 5th time it wouldn't be enjoyable at all, so watch out with it a bit oke ?
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;42461244]It is still a subjective definition even if it is structured on a certain type of logic since "hard drugs" is such a loose concept to begin with, and you are subjectively picking out what kind of logic you will go by when distinguishing hard drugs (in this case the viability of a fatal overdose), something that is far from universally agreed upon. That said with your definition it would mean the pricing of a substance directly influences whether it is a hard drug or not (like the LSD example). Say if heroin was to become so ridiculously expensive that it would cost tens of thousands of dollars to overdose on it, would it then be a soft drug? Not the best example but hopefully you understand where I'm getting at. In my personal opinion there is no such thing as hard drugs or soft drugs, only drugs. Some drugs are more dangerous than others in different respects but that does not mean you can simply draw a line and say "anything "more dangerous" than this is a hard drug", as this is a gross oversimplification and pretty much just an attempt to dumb down the complexities of drugs so people can easily cast judgement without second thought. Besides, who is to judge where you can draw this line and based on what criteria?[/QUOTE] Ugh this whole picking obvious holes in arguments thing is really grating me. And it's even more grating that the same thing is now appearing here. people fail to think for themselves about others thoughts and then reply in an adversarial unproductive manner, with no consideration for what exactly one may be trying to get at. LSD would still be shit hard to OD on and heroin would still be shit easy to OD on. Essentially what I'm talking about is the difference between a typical recreational dose and the LD-50 of said drug. In essence then hard drugs easily do exist within the essence which I see them, in a rational way.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;42457769]Fuck the phrase "hard drugs". Anything is safe if you can do it right, and anything is dangerous if you do it wrong. Give it all a try, just do it right, avoid needles and moderate your intake.[/QUOTE] Solvents are always dangerous, no matter how much caution is used when taking them. Not sure why you rated this dumb Apple. Either you disagree or you don't think solvents are drugs. If the former, you could explain yourself instead of just rating me dumb like a child.
I smoked for the first time in almost 2 weeks and when I closed my eyes I had the most amazing CEVS I've ever had (it was like a mixture of tripping and dreaming while awake). I've never had anything like this happen before with weed, so much greatness. EDIT: Or really ever. Even the AL-LAD visuals weren't quite like this
Is there anything one can do to reduce the symptoms of opiate withdrawal? I like the high but the morning afterwards is a little awkward with all the puking, shaking violently and stomach cramping.
[QUOTE=Chopstick;42480700]Is there anything one can do to reduce the symptoms of opiate withdrawal? I like the high but the morning afterwards is a little awkward with all the puking, shaking violently and stomach cramping.[/QUOTE] Wow. I've never had symptoms that severe the next day. How much are you taking?! Benzos work well for the general shitty feeling. Diphenhydramine will help with the nausea and vomiting but so will weed. Weed + diphenhydramine should work well. Seriously though, I would not expect, and have never experienced, morning after opiate syndrome so bad.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;42480895]Wow. I've never had symptoms that severe the next day. How much are you taking?! Benzos work well for the general shitty feeling. Diphenhydramine will help with the nausea and vomiting but so will weed. Weed + diphenhydramine should work well. Seriously though, I would not expect, and have never experienced, morning after opiate syndrome so bad.[/QUOTE] Cheers, I'll try that the next time and I believe it was somewhere between 150mg - 180mg of codeine from some old pills I found (co-codamol at 30mg codeine/500mg aceto-something) but I'm thinking that using teabags in the CWE didn't work too well.
There's such a thing as opiate withdrawal? At least after a single dose.
[QUOTE=FoodStuffs;42483456]There's such a thing as opiate withdrawal? At least after a single dose.[/QUOTE] Opioid withdrawal for sure, I've had some pretty bad times the morning after single doses of tramadol. Though I suspect it isn't related to the actual opioid effects since this never happens to me on any "regular" opiate.
Its obviously not withdrawal haha, because one day is nowhere near close long enough to get hooked. Its basically like the comedown or hangover of opiates. One reason I always chose opiates over other shit like Adderall and other amphetamines, is that I get a lot less negative comedown effects. With Amps I feel nauseous, tired as fuck, spaced out/"half there", really anxious and/or depressed, and my jaw and teeth ache from clenching as well as my throat being sore from how it dries out your sinuses. With opiates I rarely get any negatives, maybe a little bit of nausea here and there. Unless I take like a shitload and then sometimes I puke, like the last time it happened I had been taking 4mg of suboxone a day for 4 days in a row haha. But yeah I would say like AT LEAST 75% of the people I talk to that take or have taken opiates in the past, experience at least some level of nausea on recreational doses. For example when I went through a short 2~ month period of snorting heroin with these 2 guys I used to be drug-buddies with, both of them often puked off the shit, especially when we had the good off-white shit from Detroit (I think they said on Drugs Inc. that its 10% purer than the national average). I think I only puked off the shit a couples times, and that's with the one buddy layin out fat lines for me, callin them "pukers" and kind of trying to see if I would actually finally puke lol.
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need quick answer already peaking, what's some intense classical music to listen to on shrooms? thanks
Just bump some Mozart.
[QUOTE=Mac2468;42491610]Just bump some Mozart.[/QUOTE] jesus christ your fuckin avatar
[QUOTE=LauScript;42491536]need quick answer already peaking, what's some intense classical music to listen to on shrooms? thanks[/QUOTE] Mozart's Great Mass, Tchaikovsky's 1812, pretty much any Beethoven symphony and Gustav Holst's Mars, the bringer of war.
[QUOTE=LauScript;42491536]need quick answer already peaking, what's some intense classical music to listen to on shrooms? thanks[/QUOTE] Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata
There's the top 4 IMO, Tchaikovsky, Mozart, Beethoven and one more.. BACH!
I have a question about psychedelics. My friends and I are planning to trip a bit in the following weeks. We are however hesitating between shrooms and acid. The problem is, being uncertain if the acid is real LSD or some knock-off molecule that can fuck you up. I'd be interested in trying LSD but if it's just shit I'm not too sure. Plus my friends are all scared of lucy because they believe some stupid propaganda about it (kills brain cells, you get stuck 50% of the time or you bad trip etc). The shrooms however should be of good quality (friend already bought from the guy and had a good time). Should we gamble a bit and try LSD or go for shrooms ? I'm near the Netherlands too, so we get more potent/better drugs from there I guess (at least weed), maybe it increases our chances of finding true LSD•?
If you can get legit LSD I'd go with that. Failing that, shrooms is always a great option.
[QUOTE=OrYgin;42494246]I have a question about psychedelics. My friends and I are planning to trip a bit in the following weeks. We are however hesitating between shrooms and acid. The problem is, being uncertain if the acid is real LSD or some knock-off molecule that can fuck you up. I'd be interested in trying LSD but if it's just shit I'm not too sure. Plus my friends are all scared of lucy because they believe some stupid propaganda about it (kills brain cells, you get stuck 50% of the time or you bad trip etc). The shrooms however should be of good quality (friend already bought from the guy and had a good time). Should we gamble a bit and try LSD or go for shrooms ? I'm near the Netherlands too, so we get more potent/better drugs from there I guess (at least weed), maybe it increases our chances of finding true LSD•?[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter that much but if you're really worried about getting some RC instead (which won't be much of a problem for a first-time user but rather the worrying part itself) then just go with shrooms, that's always a safe bet.
Tobacco is a drug so whatever, I'm gonna make the switch from premade smokes to rolling my own. I have a raw rolling machine so i can make a lot and put em in my cigarette case. My only questions are, are zigzags kutkorners good for roling cigs? Whats a good type of rolling tobacco widely available in Canada, how much is it and do you use filters? If so, where can I buy them? No convenience/smoke stores I go to sell em.
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