Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=zach1193;39989862]Would DXM make my body think I'm still using opiates, and thereby fueling addiction? because I've read it acts on opiate receptors or something? I ask because I just stopped after about 5 days straight of taking, maybe at the most 25-30mg of oxycodone during those days, though not everyday was the dose that high, but I've been sick so I took some dxm (Bromfed), just for the cold, not to get high or anything.
So yea, that wouldn't keep the opiates going, would it?[/QUOTE]
Na it won't fuel the addiction. In fact dissociatives help greatly with withdrawal symptoms as well as [B]reducing [/B]opiate tolerance.
[QUOTE=Faz;39986166]Should and if yes, how should I do shrooms?
I'm pretty skinny and got a fast metabolism, sometimes susceptible to paranoia on cannabis but nothing ever extreme. My #1 concern is freaking out and doing crazy shit OR having a life changing bad trip that onsets psychosis etc., like people on erowid report[/QUOTE]
Don't smoke weed before you trip, but you can smoke hella during and after.
Maybe just anecdotal advice but a friend of mine has really bad anxiety, and smoking makes it worse sometimes so he never smokes before he peaks.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;39990833]Don't smoke weed before you trip, but you can smoke hella during and after.
Maybe just anecdotal advice but a friend of mine has really bad anxiety, and smoking makes it worse sometimes so he never smokes before he peaks.[/QUOTE]
If he gets paranoia from weed he should absolutely not smoke during the peak, in that case weed is best saved for the afterglow. I have heard of (and in my earlier days experienced) many a trip that went to hell due to smoking herb while peaking.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;39990833]Don't smoke weed before you trip, but you can smoke hella during and after.
Maybe just anecdotal advice but a friend of mine has really bad anxiety, and smoking makes it worse sometimes so he never smokes before he peaks.[/QUOTE]
Why not smoke before you trip? I always smoke weed during every stage of tripping. Never has caused me a problem. Also Cannabis can make peoples anxiety worse however with some people it helps, higher doses and Sativas tend to increase the chance by a lot.
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;39991060]Why not smoke before you trip? I always smoke weed during every stage of tripping. Never has caused me a problem. Also Cannabis can make peoples anxiety worse however with some people it helps, higher doses and Sativas tend to increase the chance by a lot.[/QUOTE]
Well he (Faz) stated that he was prone to paranoia from weed so being high while tripping would significantly increase the chance of him having a bad trip. In his case I would just leave weed alone and experience the shrooms on their own, once he's come down smoking is a great idea though.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;39991164]Well he (Faz) stated that he was prone to paranoia from weed so being high while tripping would significantly increase the chance of him having a bad trip. In his case I would just leave weed alone and experience the shrooms on their own, once he's come down smoking is a great idea though.[/QUOTE]
Oh I agree in his case but August said "Don't smoke weed before you trip, but you can smoke hella during and after", it seemed he was referring to anyone in general because why would he suggest not smoking before but while tripping for Faz?
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Paranoia would be worse for Faz(In theory) if you smoked while tripping rather than before.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;39990681]Na it won't fuel the addiction. In fact dissociatives help greatly with withdrawal symptoms as well as [B]reducing [/B]opiate tolerance.[/QUOTE]
Awesome, and it seems I can handle 5 days in a row without witnessing any sort of withdrawal, not that I'll use this information to abuse it, just good to know.
mflb worth it? Yes no?
[QUOTE=Reviized;40000551]mflb worth it? Yes no?[/QUOTE]
Never tried one, but from what I've heard it's well worth it if you can afford the initial cost. Saves a lot of money in the long run if you're a heavy smoker, healthier too. And discrete. So basically, yeah it probably is.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;39990681]Na it won't fuel the addiction. In fact dissociatives help greatly with withdrawal symptoms as well as [B]reducing [/B]opiate tolerance.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how that's true considering most dissociative drugs act on opiate receptors as well as NMDA-receptors.
[QUOTE=Memnoth;40000722]I don't see how that's true considering most dissociative drugs act on opiate receptors as well as NMDA-receptors.[/QUOTE]
I have not really made much research into the subject but it is a very widely reported phenomena, I'm pretty sure the NMDA-antagonism plays the biggest role in reversing opiate tolerance.
A quick google gives me this handy thread, a collection of studies and anecdotal reports: [URL]http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/501875-NMDA-antagonists-for-tolerance-a-collection-of-the-evidence-and-anecdotal-reports[/URL]
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;40001127]I have not really made much research into the subject but it is a very widely reported phenomena, I'm pretty sure the NMDA-antagonism plays the biggest role in reversing opiate tolerance.
A quick google gives me this handy thread, a collection of studies and anecdotal reports: [URL]http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/501875-NMDA-antagonists-for-tolerance-a-collection-of-the-evidence-and-anecdotal-reports[/URL][/QUOTE]
That's very interesting, it seems that NMDA-antagonism is equivalent to slowed down neuromodulation as the NMDA-receptors function is to reinforce the neurocircuits existence. The activation of receptors during a decreased neuromodulation such as the sigma- or opiate-receptor seems to force isolation and lowering of functions as a response to receptor-stimulation, in contrast to simply lowering the electric affinity during normal neuromodulation.
[QUOTE=Memnoth;40001288]That's very interesting, it seems that NMDA-antagonism is equivalent to slowed down neuromodulation as the NMDA-receptors function is to reinforce the neurocircuits existence. The activation of receptors during a decreased neuromodulation such as the sigma- or opiate-receptor seems to force isolation and lowering of functions as a response to receptor-stimulation, in contrast to simply lowering the electric affinity during normal neuromodulation.[/QUOTE]
That is certainly interesting indeed! It seems as if it also works to upregulate, sensitize and increase the number of certain receptors, and not just the opioid kind but all sorts, including serotonin, nicotine, dopamine and GABA (but sadly not cb-receptors heh). It makes me wonder if the same kind of tolerance-restricting and counteracting effect could be reached with [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1255273"]3-HO-PCP[/URL] (made a thread about it a few days ago), considering it reportedly has a 430 times higher affinity for the μ-opioid receptor compared to PCP. If it does, then wouldn't it practically mean an opioid without opioid tolerance/addiction? Naturally there will be NMDA tolerance but it is far from as severe as the opioid kind and does not produce withdrawal symptoms of note.
Tried synthetic cannabis these last 2 days. First day just felt kind of floaty for a while then got a bit nauseated and just chilled on the sofa or whatevs. Now yesterday I smoked about a third of what I did the previous day (had a bit of alcohol in me aswell) and [I]holy shit[/I].
I was floating up stairs and moving through jello.
I swear at one point I saw the entire universe as a whole.
'Twas quite a trip.
Point is, though, since it's synthetic and its effects on the human body haven't really been studied, I'm kind of worried about what effect it could have on me if I'd continue to use it.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;40001739]If it does, then wouldn't it practically mean an opioid without opioid tolerance/addiction?[/QUOTE]
That doesn't seem likely, as the nature of synaptic receptor-tolerance seems to be loss of affinity due to the change in the electric charge pertinent to the ions connected to the overstimulated receptor causing it to no longer have the electric charge required to magnetically receive stimulation.
It seems that NMDA-receptor antagonism reduces opiate addiction symptoms simply by being anesthetic as opiate-receptor stimulation revolves around the function of being pain-killing and separating your mind from your body renders the withdrawal symptom of pain mute. Therefore acting as a substitute where opiate-receptors can get more electrically receivable as dissociatives in general have a low property of stimulating them compared to pure opiates.
At least that's my preliminary conclusion.
[QUOTE=F U C K;40001802]Tried synthetic cannabis these last 2 days. First day just felt kind of floaty for a while then got a bit nauseated and just chilled on the sofa or whatevs. Now yesterday I smoked about a third of what I did the previous day (had a bit of alcohol in me aswell) and [I]holy shit[/I].
I was floating up stairs and moving through jello.
I swear at one point I saw the entire universe as a whole.
'Twas quite a trip.
Point is, though, since it's synthetic and its effects on the human body haven't really been studied, I'm kind of worried about what effect it could have on me if I'd continue to use it.[/QUOTE]
What is the brand name of the stuff you tried? Might be able to find the actual chemical they used
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;40002149]What is the brand name of the stuff you tried? Might be able to find the actual chemical they used[/QUOTE]
It's called AK47, supposed to be some really heavy shit.
[QUOTE=F U C K;40002360]It's called AK47, supposed to be some really heavy shit.[/QUOTE]
don't y' know you're s'posed to get the jwh pure mate
otherwise who knows what else besides barely-tested rc du jour you're smoking
then again, pure jwh is tricky to smoke and has a really low dosage scale(not acid low but not dxm high) and eyeballing powder ain't easy for most
good luck getting pure jwh with it being banned and all
I have a serious question. I'm going to a "party" tomorrow night where pretty much everyone will be drinking. I don't really care to drink much because I've got kind of a low tolerance for it and lose my cool, but I like smoking at parties because I can actually open up and be chill while being under the influence. In your experiences, do a lot of girls get turned off by guys who smoke weed? I don't do it all the time, but I like to smoke it on special occasions like this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;40007233]I have a serious question. I'm going to a "party" tomorrow night where pretty much everyone will be drinking. I don't really care to drink much because I've got kind of a low tolerance for it and lose my cool, but I like smoking at parties because I can actually open up and be chill while being under the influence. In your experiences, do a lot of girls get turned off by guys who smoke weed? I don't do it all the time, but I like to smoke it on special occasions like this. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Really comes down to how you act high and there views on it. I know girls that smoke shit tons of weed and wouldn't be turned off by it. So in the end it all comes down to the persons views on it.
Hey guys, just picked up an eighth and a supposed .2-.4 worth of MDA. Does it look like it? I know its hard to eyeball it, but I have nothing to compare the weight of it to judge the amounts. We all paid $80, I pitched $20, we also got hooked up because we drove the dealer to his pickup he had to do for us, and we drove to him and shit. Would you guys say I got at least what I paid for? Also should I snort or bomb?
[QUOTE=Toz;40008292]Hey guys, just picked up an eighth and a supposed .2-.4 worth of MDA. Does it look like it? I know its hard to eyeball it, but I have nothing to compare the weight of it to judge the amounts. We all paid $80, I pitched $20, we also got hooked up because we drove the dealer to his pickup he had to do for us, and we drove to him and shit. Would you guys say I got at least what I paid for? Also should I snort or bomb?[/QUOTE]
Pic?
[QUOTE=DELL;40007875]Really comes down to how you act high and there views on it. I know girls that smoke shit tons of weed and wouldn't be turned off by it. So in the end it all comes down to the persons views on it.[/QUOTE]
Figured that. Thanks.
I don't know why my post was rated funny, just don't wanna look like an asshole.
Think of the size of about a dime, but MDA. Posting pics now
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Also, what are some decent/cheap amphetamines that I could find in Canada?
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Could MDAs atomic weight be compared to say salt, and then compared by the size/amount ratio?
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Sorry for some shit pictures
I've been doing some unknown quality street amph yesterday and today I feel like a worthy candidate for the Wood for Brains Tournament 2013. Was this because of the amount or shitty quality?
(I've done quite a bit)
I've been off Abilify for a week, so it should be safe to drink now, right? I need an answer or suggestion pretty quick.
[QUOTE=Adbor;40009720]I've been doing some unknown quality street amph yesterday and today I feel like a worthy candidate for the Wood for Brains Tournament 2013. Was this because of the amount or shitty quality?
(I've done quite a bit)[/QUOTE]
Both I guess. I'm also guessing you didn't eat or drink much.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;40010544]Both I guess. I'm also guessing you didn't eat or drink much.[/QUOTE]
that's right
Thanks!
No worries, always make sure to drink lots of water since amph dehydrates and kills the instincts to drink.
Water is good for everything, it's a druggies best friend :)
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