Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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put benzos under your tongue. it's the fastest method with the higher bioavailability
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43063881]put benzos under your tongue. it's the fastest method with the higher bioavailability[/QUOTE]
It took me a while to learn this, but it's true. It'll be bitter and nasty, but it won't be there long. Snorting or eating has nothing on it.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;43065627]It took me a while to learn this, but it's true. It'll be bitter and nasty, but it won't be there long. Snorting or eating has nothing on it.[/QUOTE]
The taste of kpins under your tongue is amazing IMO.
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;43067714]The taste of kpins under your tongue is amazing IMO.[/QUOTE]
I thought benzos were relatively tasteless, with the taste mainly coming from the fillers.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43067810]I thought benzos were relatively tasteless, with the taste mainly coming from the fillers.[/QUOTE]
I assume so since each pill consists of mainly filler and that each companies product will likely have different fillers. My 1mg kpins taste great but .25mg ones taste bad and my 10mg and 5mg diazepam taste bad too.
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Eh I should point out they're all generic preparations of clonazepam and diazepam.
Etizolam tastes like salted vomit. Someone should build a taste index of drugs, makes choosing the right cooking ingredients easier. "A little salted vomit here, dry paint there and that battery acid sting to round it off."
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;43068254]I assume so since each pill consists of mainly filler and that each companies product will likely have different fillers. My 1mg kpins taste great but .25mg ones taste bad and my 10mg and 5mg diazepam taste bad too.
[editline]4th December 2013[/editline]
Eh I should point out they're all generic preparations of clonazepam and diazepam.[/QUOTE]
The kpins I get I know must have sugar in them or something sweet, because I know what you're talking about, it's like a sugary chalky candy.
is it possible to od of marijuana before falling asleep?
[QUOTE=mrmr;43068320]Etizolam tastes like salted vomit. Someone should build a taste index of drugs, makes choosing the right cooking ingredients easier. "A little salted vomit here, dry paint there and that battery acid sting to round it off."[/QUOTE]
My etizolam is pretty much tasteless with a hint of sweetness. Blue ones.
But etizolam probably varies even more taste-wise than other benz since they're pressed locally by the vendors or their distributors.
[QUOTE=greeds;43068577]is it possible to od of marijuana before falling asleep?[/QUOTE]
yes
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43068685]My etizolam is pretty much tasteless with a hint of sweetness. Blue ones.
But etizolam probably varies even more taste-wise than other benz since they're pressed locally by the vendors or their distributors.[/QUOTE]
Mine were also blue (Not saying that they're exactly the same due to the colour) and they were almost tasteless when swallowed. However if you hold it under your tongue it begins to get salty and then shortly after the vomit flavour comes out.
I had yellow kpins a couple weeks ago, didnt taste bad at all
10mg valiums have the worst taste ever when held in your mouth. It's bitter, salty and gross as fuck. Thankfully, if you hold pills under your tongue at the right spot you shouldn't taste it.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;43069185]yes[/QUOTE]
i dare you to prove me so
[QUOTE=mrmr;43069378]Mine were also blue (Not saying that they're exactly the same due to the colour) and they were almost tasteless when swallowed. However if you hold it under your tongue it begins to get salty and then shortly after the vomit flavour comes out.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's what I mean. Mine had a subtle sweetness when dosing sublingually. Certainly no vomit taste lol
And mine color your mouth blue for hours. Always had to swallow and made sure I didn't hold it in for more than 2 seconds whenever I was going out in public. Made the mistake of holding it under my tongue after an ethylphenidate binge when I first got them, and then went out to the corner shop to get some orange juice. When I got home and looked in the mirror I was shocked and thought my entire tongue was suffering from extreme vasoconstriction before remembering the etiz :v:
[QUOTE=greeds;43068577]is it possible to od of marijuana before falling asleep?[/QUOTE]
if u inject the marijuana straight into your heart then it will kill you before you fall asleep.
I posted this on /opi/ and they took it as a suicide thread, but it really isn't. I don't know how many of you are into opiates, but how much oxycodone would it take to have a fatal overdose? And, how much does alcohol and benzos affect it?
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;43069884]I posted this on /opi/ and they took it as a suicide thread, but it really isn't. I don't know how many of you are into opiates, but how much oxycodone would it take to have a fatal overdose? And, how much does alcohol and benzos affect it?[/QUOTE]
idk about the 2nd question but i think lethal dose for oxy is around 80mg for a person with no tolerance, depending on body-weight.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;43069789]if u inject the marijuana straight into your heart then it will kill you before you fall asleep.[/QUOTE]
not a great fan of injecting stuff straight into my heart
unless it's epinefrin, jesus that shit gets you pumped
[QUOTE=greeds;43070235]not a great fan of injecting stuff straight into my heart
unless it's epinefrin, jesus that shit gets you pumped[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AppleJackson;43069884]I posted this on /opi/ and they took it as a suicide thread, but it really isn't. I don't know how many of you are into opiates, but how much oxycodone would it take to have a fatal overdose? And, how much does alcohol and benzos affect it?[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure about benzos, but alcohol sharply decreases the amount needed to fatally OD, as it greatly adds to the CNS depressant effect, benzos do this as well, I just don't know if as much as alcohol or less. In my opinion and experience it's best just to stick with one of the 3 when getting high, and I know for me alcohol and opiates is unpleasant if you take enough opiates, gets hard to breath yo.
Every benzo pill that I've used sublingually (mainly Xanax and Klonopin but also a little Ativan and Valium), has had that mildy sweet taste to it. So Im guessing it most likely something they add into all those pills in order to make it more suitable for the sublingual ROA, as I would be surprised if that's how the benzodiazepine itsef tastes, but you never know! I can identify morphine/heroin by taste because I've chewed up so many morphine pills in the last 5 years it isn't even funny.
Also, applejackson, I would stay away from combining anything with oxycodone or any other opiates unless you have a HIGH tolerance (aka you need AT LEAST 50mg of oxy to feel anything).
Alcohol just ruins the warm opiateness in my opinion, but if you use a SMALL amount of benzos with it it can help extend and strengthen the euphoria somewhat. But if you take too much benzos then they're going to overpower the opiates and you've gonna have a sloppy, amnesiac high that you won't even remember.
I know that if I take benzos or drink with opiates that it makes it different, I just wonder how much it takes before I die. Also, the best tasting pill I've taken so far is adderall 5mg. Tastes like straight up sugar.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;43071247]I know that if I take benzos or drink with opiates that it makes it different, I just wonder how much it takes before I die. Also, the best tasting pill I've taken so far is adderall 5mg. Tastes like straight up sugar.[/QUOTE]
Since it's opiates, and everyone's tolerance can differ greatly, we can't really tell you that, only you will know you, the best I can say is, start low on what ever you're experimenting with, and keep your opiate dose where you normally comfortably like to be and gradually rise until you begin to notice unpleasant side effects, mainly slowed or labored breathing.
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[QUOTE=zach1193;43071450]Since it's opiates, and everyone's tolerance can differ greatly, we can't really tell you that, only you will know you, the best I can say is, start low on what ever you're experimenting with, and keep your opiate dose where you normally comfortably like to be and gradually rise until you begin to notice unpleasant side effects, mainly slowed or labored breathing.[/QUOTE]
But I know 35mg hydrocodone and a shot made me very uncomfortable for about a half hour and I get comfortable around 40-50mg oxycodone.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;43071247]I know that if I take benzos or drink with opiates that it makes it different, I just wonder how much it takes before I die. Also, the best tasting pill I've taken so far is adderall 5mg. Tastes like straight up sugar.[/QUOTE]~80mg of oxycodone is the rough estimate for a fatal overdose with no tolerance, also depends on body weight and sensitivity. Don't be stupid and ever take nearly this much with no tolerance.
Don't mix benzos, alcohol, or opiates together. It's extremely risky. To put it in perspective, 62-72% of non-fatal overdoses are caused by polydrug use. [b]71-98% of fatal overdoses are caused by polydrug use[/b]. It's not worth the risk. [url]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3454351/[/url]
Has anybody taken propranolol/know how it interacts with other drugs?
I used to take propanalol, I tried using it back in high school but I ended up getting into alot of trouble because I wouldn't hold back on saying how I felt to my teachers. I remember telling this one teacher that his wife (also a teacher) is incredibly annoying and that living with her must be a nightmare, that didn't go down too well.
As far as interactions go I can't really remember. However I reckon it would be unwise to mix it with other types of downers/benzos and as far as other medications you're on I'd ask your doctor.
They only things I'd be using at the same time are focalin (dexmethylphenidate), weed, and alcohol
I think I'll probably be fine
So what the hell [i]are[/i] open eye visuals?
Like what is actually going on in the brain to make you see such strange, strange shapes? Why is there such order to them? Are all these fractals and shapes hardcoded into the human brain as part of some kind of pattern recognition, and if so, why is it that different drugs produce different fractals, and what decides the structure of these shapes? Why does it get projected into the visual cortex and is it actually physically seen by the eyes or just vividly imagined by the subconscious, even to the point where in extreme cases vision is replaced entirely with these visions? Is it just an abstraction of sight, or would the blind be capable of imagining such odd shapes?
And what about audio hallucinations? Of buzzing, sizzling, crackling, and high pitched whining. Are these too, like the dotted triangles and hexagons, hardwired into the brain as some kind of instinctual or ancestral memory? These sounds which are all too familiar to us but yet never heard in the external world are projected so vividly.
Another thing that's perplexing is shifting, such as how an object can go from straight to curved. How is it possible that my room can tilt, the numbers on my digital clock can slide around, and my point of view can recede to a point behind me when yet nothing has moved at all?
What about animals? Are they too susceptible to these? At what point down the evolutionary ladder would this stop? At the cat? The rabbit? The cricket? If they are capable of seeing such shapes, are theirs any different? Do they see shapes that are not so rigidly structures as ours, but rather more curved and skewed akin to paisley designs? It's amazing how intricate these psychedelics designs are, though these patterns rarely exist in nature, only in man-made goods attempting to replicate these psychological designs.
Is all this caused by a malfunctioning mind? Why is a brain still able to operate so well even with all of this going on?
There's a theory that what we perceive is just a well-made hallucination in some ways, built by our actual sensory inputs but with a lot of stuff filled in by the pattern recognition your brain. Then you get the Ganzfeld effect, where you deprive yourself of sensory input and you start hallucinating. Your brain has nothing to work with, so maybe it makes stuff up or work off of random misfirings in your sensory cortexes, and then builds on top of that with the pattern recognition.
With the shifting stuff, it's probably just an extension of this, where the inputs get altered on their way to the pattern recognition. I can't really explain exactly what's happening in my brain when my field of vision gets stretched out of the sides of the normal "screen" I see everything on in my head, but it's probably the parameters of my hallucination of the world getting messed with.
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