Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;43410019]Man I really love MDMA visuals.[/QUOTE]
Ah, that sounds great! I love it when it's like that, just laying back and observing all the beautiful stuff happening around you. I'm just not a big fan of interactive hallucinations tbh, well at least not when they're literally in your face talking to you and asking you questions. At least not when you can't make out if they're actually there.
Actually, maybe this should be in addicts lounge.
[QUOTE=Geomancer;43410061]Ah, that sounds great! I love it when it's like that, just laying back and observing all the beautiful stuff happening around you. I'm just not a big fan of interactive hallucinations tbh, well at least not when they're literally in your face talking to you and asking you questions. At least not when you can't make out if they're actually there.
Actually, maybe this should be in addicts lounge.[/QUOTE]
I've never spoken to a purely hallucinatory person but on that same night we'd lost a couple of friends and were looking for them and every time I saw a girl with long curly hair I went up to them and tried to talk to them like they were this friend we'd lost. It's really easy to put peoples faces on strangers. I did the same with voices actually.
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
Even though it makes you seem pretty mental i still love that shit for some reason. They're just the nicest visuals. Like, you see people because you really want to see them and it makes you happy to see them.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;43410239]I've never spoken to a purely hallucinatory person but on that same night we'd lost a couple of friends and were looking for them and every time I saw a girl with long curly hair I went up to them and tried to talk to them like they were this friend we'd lost. It's really easy to put peoples faces on strangers. I did the same with voices actually.
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
Even though it makes you seem pretty mental i still love that shit for some reason. They're just the nicest visuals. Like, you see people because you really want to see them and it makes you happy to see them.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah, it's pretty weird that. Even seeing your friends face on a lot of people at the same time. I had the same that day, in addition to all the random people, my friend who left 3 hours earlier came back and actually said "I decided to come back". So I talked to him for a while before snapping out of it, realizing a security guard was looking oddly at me. I think he saw that I snapped out of it, and it was all right cause he saw that I was okay.
I was in Holland you see, and it's so fucking liberal it's amazing. I was rolling my tits off walking past security guards and police officers at an event, gurning, smiling like an idiot, with huuuge pupils and nystagmus like never before, and they just laughed at me, some even gave me thumbs up. What a fantastic night.
That said, it's uncomfortable when the Grim Reaper stands right besides you with his scythe in your face, pressing his face up against the side of yours smiling.
I always get the hallucinations after I've come down from the roll itself though. If I got those peaking, I'd probably hug the Reaper and tell him I love him and whatever he's about to do is ok, and that I accept his choices and respect his values.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43407986]half a tab? always take two[/QUOTE]
yea your harm reduction skills are terrible
[QUOTE=Geomancer;43410284]Oh yeah, it's pretty weird that. Even seeing your friends face on a lot of people at the same time. I had the same that day, in addition to all the random people, my friend who left 3 hours earlier came back and actually said "I decided to come back". So I talked to him for a while before snapping out of it, realizing a security guard was looking oddly at me. I think he saw that I snapped out of it, and it was all right cause he saw that I was okay.
I was in Holland you see, and it's so fucking liberal it's amazing. I was rolling my tits off walking past security guards and police officers at an event, gurning, smiling like an idiot, with huuuge pupils and nystagmus like never before, and they just laughed at me, some even gave me thumbs up. What a fantastic night.
That said, it's uncomfortable when the Grim Reaper stands right besides you with his scythe in your face, pressing his face up against the side of yours smiling.
I always get the hallucinations after I've come down from the roll itself though. If I got those peaking, I'd probably hug the Reaper and tell him I love him and whatever he's about to do is ok, and that I accept his choices and respect his values.[/QUOTE]
Oh really? That sounds awesome. How did you get hold of it? I'd have no idea how to get a hold of drugs abroad. I'm going to Berlin next year and I'd love to hit the clubs and get on it but I've got no idea how id get it. It's sort of like that at festivals here though. The stewards are all volunteers and they all know everyone's there just to have a good time so they don't give a shit. It's the perfect environment for doing anything really,
Haha I can't see it taking a dark turn for me, I feel too lovey until way after the visuals have all gone.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;43410397]Oh really? That sounds awesome. How did you get hold of it? I'd have no idea how to get a hold of drugs abroad. I'm going to Berlin next year and I'd love to hit the clubs and get on it but I've got no idea how id get it. It's sort of like that at festivals here though. The stewards are all volunteers and they all know everyone's there just to have a good time so they don't give a shit. It's the perfect environment for doing anything really,
Haha I can't see it taking a dark turn for me, I feel too lovey until way after the visuals have all gone.[/QUOTE]
My brother has a friend over here, who's got some real good stuff. So it was really convenient.
Remember to bring a test kit if you're going to get something from an unreliable source!
Also, in Berlin, just go out one night, get a bit drunk and socialize. Just "go fishing" a bit in your conversations. You'll catch up quickly on their signals if they're "no-no" to drugs, and you'll also pick it up quickly if they got some contacts near, or if they sell some themselves. In big cities like that nothings too hard to get hold of. Especially not MDMA in Central Europe. Be careful though! And test it test it test it! :eng101:
Lucky you, having those hallucinations while being all loved up sounds amazing.
They're very interesting and pleasant while just floating on the afterglow though. It's really pleasant to just tuck in, lay down on the couch with a friend and watch all the lovely stuff happening, I'm always in a great mood when I land. Exhausted but very happy. :downs:
As long as it's not full on people talking to you, as I said.
Green before beer, you're in the clear.
[QUOTE=CrumbleShake;43410397]Oh really? That sounds awesome. How did you get hold of it? I'd have no idea how to get a hold of drugs abroad. I'm going to Berlin next year and I'd love to hit the clubs and get on it but I've got no idea how id get it. It's sort of like that at festivals here though. The stewards are all volunteers and they all know everyone's there just to have a good time so they don't give a shit. It's the perfect environment for doing anything really,
Haha I can't see it taking a dark turn for me, I feel too lovey until way after the visuals have all gone.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.pillreports.com/[/url] is your friend. If you have a smartphone (or a friend with one), just ask what the pills look like and double check them here. Saved my ass a couple of times from bad ecstasy.
[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;43408818]in my experience, blaze before drink. every time I've blazed after drinking a fair amount I got the dizzies real bad and on at least one occasion I've puked that way. its usually okay though if I smoke after only having had like a beer or two[/QUOTE]
Hmm, I hit a vape hard after a lot of drinking and was fine, it was great
[url=http://rapgenius.com/Eminem-kill-you-lyrics#note-28593] I hope the weed'll outweigh these drinks[/url]
So I'm introducing one of my best friends to weed next week and I want to know how to make it as nice as possible and to make sure he enjoys it. I'm guessing he probably won't feel high the first time anyways so I'm just gonna use my bubbler which probably will hurt him less than the bongs I have.
[QUOTE=Vintage Thatguy;43423611]So I'm introducing one of my best friends to weed next week and I want to know how to make it as nice as possible and to make sure he enjoys it. I'm guessing he probably won't feel high the first time anyways so I'm just gonna use my bubbler which probably will hurt him less than the bongs I have.[/QUOTE]
I really don't know why or where everyone hears first timers don't get high, if you don't get high, then it's not your first time, cause you didn't get high. :v:
tell the fucker to inhale or die. most first timers don't inhale
[QUOTE=scorpinat;43424949]tell the fucker to inhale or die. most first timers don't inhale[/QUOTE]
I remember the first time I smoked weed I ripped an entire cone/bowl in one go on my own, proceeded to cough my lungs up, and then my two friends who had been smoking for a few years were like, "... what the fuck?! Nice, man!"
I got REALLY fucking high that night. Like... unbelievably high.
[QUOTE=sltungle;43425875]I remember the first time I smoked weed I ripped an entire cone/bowl in one go on my own, proceeded to cough my lungs up, and then my two friends who had been smoking for a few years were like, "... what the fuck?! Nice, man!"
I got REALLY fucking high that night. Like... unbelievably high.[/QUOTE]
first few times i was like, i don't feel anything mang.Then someone said inhale dude, gates opened that night
first time i smoked i was told that im gonna fail no matter what i do so i just inhaled so hard i could and ended up getting really really high
i was like just lying on my bed and everything was spinning and vibrating for hours
I got a magic flight launch box, best investment ive made in a while. I brought it to work and would take a few hits everytime i took out the garbage. That things great
[QUOTE=scorpinat;43424949]tell the fucker to inhale or die. most first timers don't inhale[/QUOTE]
I don't know man, I think there might be something to it. I didn't get very high my first time either, and my friends all report the same pattern. I was told to expect it though, so maybe it has something to do with that as well.
it's because most people don't know how to inhale. do it right and you'll get blazed
It's kinda awkward trying to teach someone to inhale. Like, I'm a person who is very vigilant and aware of my surroundings and I take every detail I can into consideration, so when I try to explain how to inhale I mention all of the little tips and tricks like using your tongue as a heat shield, breathing with the bottom of your lungs, make sure you dont just suck on it, leave a little breath before the hit so you dont cough your lungs out, leave enough air in your lungs to suck in after you let go of the carb, etc so it ends up being a lot of info for a noobie and in the end I'm like, 'fuck it just take a hit, practice makes perfect'.
[editline]5th January 2014[/editline]
Also, maybe ask people who smoked cigs before smoking weed about that pattern of not getting high your first time. They should know how to inhale, I bet you they got blazed their first time.
I just tell people to inhale and when their lungs are about to fill up to top it off with some air. Works flawlessly :v:
Exhale deeply, inhale until about 80% of your lung capacity is filled. Inhale 20% air on top, wait 3-4 seconds, exhale. It works perfectly and if you're not high, you didn't do it right.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;43427968]Also, maybe ask people who smoked cigs before smoking weed about that pattern of not getting high your first time. They should know how to inhale, I bet you they got blazed their first time.[/QUOTE]
Hell yea, I got high as fuck the first time. And I had been smoking ciggarettes for half a year beforehand.
[QUOTE=Souly;43428906]Hell yea, I got high as fuck the first time. And I had been smoking ciggarettes for half a year beforehand.[/QUOTE]
And there we have it, myth busted.
I don't suppose anyone here has advice on coping with withdrawals aside from just waiting it out?
I have a couple hydrocodone tablets, but I dunno if that'll "reset the cycle" and make me feel like I have the flu for another 48 hours.
[QUOTE=blehblehbleh;43427408]I don't know man, I think there might be something to it. I didn't get very high my first time either, and my friends all report the same pattern. I was told to expect it though, so maybe it has something to do with that as well.[/QUOTE]
There is definitely more to it, although for some reason people refuse to believe that and only attribute it to not inhaling properly. My personal experience and that of friends I've introduced tells me this is clearly not the case. I've already argued for this in [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1238547&p=39213271"]a previous thread[/URL] and found the following while researching it more:
[QUOTE]Research has shown that small doses of cannabinoids from marijuana can signal the body to make more endocannabinoids and build more cannabinoid receptors. This is why many first-time marijuana users don't feel an effect, but by their second or third time using the herb they have built more cannabinoid receptors and are ready to respond. More receptors increase a person's sensitivity to cannabinoids; smaller doses have larger effects, and the individual has an enhanced baseline of endocannabinoid activity.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Building a tolerance is something most cannabis users are familiar with; however, few of them are aware of the ability to produce more receptors. An example of this phenomenon is in a new marijuana patient; often a first time user will experience little to no effect from the marijuana. Upon using a second time they notice a stronger effect from it. This is due to the fact that upon the first dose the body was signaled to increase its cannabinoid receptors and so was much more sensitive to the herb during the next dosage.[/QUOTE]
Not that I expect people here to believe it. They have obviously made their minds up that it boils down flaws in user technique because either they themselves did not experience the same phenomena (not realizing the very nature of it makes it highly individual), or possibly, what in their mind constitutes to "getting the hang of smoking" coincides with the amount of times it takes for an increase of cannabinoid receptors to the point where you get high. Because if conventional logic is used, even a half-arsed hit of good shit should get you high when you have no tolerance at all as you've never smoked before. A gravity bong should [B]definitely [/B]get you high as it forces the smoke down your lungs. This was not the case for me the first time.
[QUOTE=zach1193;43429457]And there we have it, myth busted.[/QUOTE]
From a single user report you make such a generalized statement?
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43429886]There is definitely more to it, although for some reason people refuse to believe that and only attribute it to not inhaling properly. My personal experience and that of friends I've introduced tells me this is clearly not the case. I've already argued for this in [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1238547&p=39213271"]a previous thread[/URL] and found the following while researching it more:
Not that I expect people here to believe it. They have obviously made their minds up that it boils down flaws in user technique because either they themselves did not experience the same phenomena (not realizing the very nature of it makes it highly individual), or possibly, what in their mind constitutes to "getting the hang of smoking" coincides with the amount of times it takes for an increase of cannabinoid receptors to the point where you get high. Because if conventional logic is used, even a half-arsed hit of good shit should get you high when you have no tolerance at all as you've never smoked before. A gravity bong should [B]definitely [/B]get you high as it forces the smoke down your lungs. This was not the case for me the first time.
From a single user report you make such a generalized statement?[/QUOTE]
Settle down it was a joke because that one guy asked about cig smokers and he surveyed himself haha idk man.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43429886]From a single user report you make such a generalized statement?[/QUOTE]
I guess it's relevant; All of my friends who smoked cigs beforehand also got high as fuq. I don't really know anyone who haven't at least tried cigs before they tried weed, though. Everyone around here smokes 'em at parties, or did at least, so they sort of get the concept of inhaling what you're smoking.
Heh, actually reminds me of the first time one of my friends tried it. We had made a bong out of a watermelon, and she took a big hit, puked(we were outside, so we didn't care), then she raised her head, put on this really cute smile and said "I think it's working".
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43429886]There is definitely more to it, although for some reason people refuse to believe that and only attribute it to not inhaling properly. My personal experience and that of friends I've introduced tells me this is clearly not the case. I've already argued for this in [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1238547&p=39213271"]a previous thread[/URL] and found the following while researching it more:
Not that I expect people here to believe it. They have obviously made their minds up that it boils down flaws in user technique because either they themselves did not experience the same phenomena (not realizing the very nature of it makes it highly individual), or possibly, what in their mind constitutes to "getting the hang of smoking" coincides with the amount of times it takes for an increase of cannabinoid receptors to the point where you get high. Because if conventional logic is used, even a half-arsed hit of good shit should get you high when you have no tolerance at all as you've never smoked before. A gravity bong should [B]definitely [/B]get you high as it forces the smoke down your lungs. This was not the case for me the first time.
From a single user report you make such a generalized statement?[/QUOTE]
So people such as myself who got high the first time just naturally have more cannabinoid receptors?
[editline]5th January 2014[/editline]
Your posts always interest me Mindtwistah.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;43429886]There is definitely more to it, although for some reason people refuse to believe that and only attribute it to not inhaling properly. My personal experience and that of friends I've introduced tells me this is clearly not the case. I've already argued for this in [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1238547&p=39213271"]a previous thread[/URL] and found the following while researching it more:
Not that I expect people here to believe it. They have obviously made their minds up that it boils down flaws in user technique because either they themselves did not experience the same phenomena (not realizing the very nature of it makes it highly individual), or possibly, what in their mind constitutes to "getting the hang of smoking" coincides with the amount of times it takes for an increase of cannabinoid receptors to the point where you get high. Because if conventional logic is used, even a half-arsed hit of good shit should get you high when you have no tolerance at all as you've never smoked before. A gravity bong should [B]definitely [/B]get you high as it forces the smoke down your lungs. This was not the case for me the first time.
From a single user report you make such a generalized statement?[/QUOTE]
I got high my first time, probably helped that I read how to inhale properly here
But yeah second time I definitely got way higher from a similar small amount (along with fractal CEVs)
And the third time I got thoroughly fucked up from tiny bit of some dank shit
So yeah I think that theory's probably true
I can't really remember getting any higher the second time, but then again my first time was very memorable.
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