• Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=TehWhale;43778339]Do you know anything about the bioavailability of hydromorphone? Snorting is the most bioavailable way other than plugging or shooting.[/QUOTE] Yea, I was planning on plugging... and not that it makes a whole lotta difference, from what I read the binders can block some drug from being absorbed. and snorting still puts a lot of it in your stomach, whereas plugging gets all of it passed through the membranes. I also don't like how short a snorted high is, thanks for the heads up, but it's just not my thing unless it was offered up for free.
[QUOTE=zach1193;43778383]Yea, I was planning on plugging... and not that it makes a whole lotta difference, from what I read the binders can block some drug from being absorbed. and snorting still puts a lot of it in your stomach, whereas plugging gets all of it passed through the membranes. I also don't like how short a snorted high is, thanks for the heads up, but it's just not my thing unless it was offered up for free.[/QUOTE]Sorry if I came off as a dick. Plug it up, as long as the drug is dissolved in a 1-2mL solution of water, you won't have any issues with absorption.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43778443]Sorry if I came off as a dick. Plug it up, as long as the drug is dissolved in a 1-2mL solution of water, you won't have any issues with absorption.[/QUOTE] I didn't think you were being a dick, just a bit straight forward, which is fine, it's how I am sometimes on weed and people mistake my tone for another emotion, when I'm simply answering them and not really endowed in the convo so I speak with no emotion, I just say the words in a monotonous tone and it's sometimes seen as I'm mad or something but I'm just high and too high to put energy into my words.... well that's sort of like what happened here :v: Also if you know anything about plugging, how many cc's (ml's) should I use per mg of opiate. like, I have a 10cc oral syringe, that's plenty an amount for that use right? and how about increasing doses, as of now I've only put a max of like 15mg oxycodone in it, and I was curious if I added more mg's would I have to compensate and use more ml's of water?
Hydromorphone is crazy soluble in water and I would recommend using no more than 2-3mL of water if you don't want it to act as an enema and shoot out of your ass. I'd start with 1mL and dissolve as much of your dose as you can, and if you need to dissolve more, add another mL.
I've been looking up nbomes and I'm now interested in trying them; any advice on what to expect/do? Also is it a good idea to smoke during it's effects, as thats what I always do with LSD.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;43788965]Hydromorphone is crazy soluble in water and I would recommend using no more than 2-3mL of water if you don't want it to act as an enema and shoot out of your ass. I'd start with 1mL and dissolve as much of your dose as you can, and if you need to dissolve more, add another mL.[/QUOTE] Thanks for the info on the hydromorphone, and most all opiates are super water soluble, but I was speaking of all opiates, or do all opiates differ so greatly that they can't be grouped in this catogory, and I've put all 10cc's up and have been fine after the first like minute, also how the fuck do you stir the water with the crushed pill in it with that small an amount of water? I use like a little top of a drink mixer, it's like a shot glass but wider instead of taller, but it's a pain in the ass to mix with.
What would be a "feelsgood" dose of Adderall for someone who never took it before?
[QUOTE=thecat100;43804323]What would be a "feelsgood" dose of Adderall for someone who never took it before?[/QUOTE] 40-50mg maybe 60-80 if you're big
my friend got some 4-aco-dmt in the mail and I am planning on using some this weekend. does anyone else have any experience with this stuff? i'd like to hear some trip stories from you guys.
[QUOTE=OCELOT323;43806849]my friend got some 4-aco-dmt in the mail and I am planning on using some this weekend. does anyone else have any experience with this stuff? i'd like to hear some trip stories from you guys.[/QUOTE] It is a magical substance. 'normal' dose is around 20, maybe 25 mg here. Lower doses like 13 mg can still make you trip nonetheless. For me, i have some bodyload. After some minutes i just dont know whats happening around me, i have nausea and well all i can do is sit down. It is great when you are comfortable, in your room etc, good music, and you'll have a nice time.
I'm not sure if everyone here reads the addict's lounge but I have a question about serotonin health. 2 days ago I gave myself some moderate serotonin syndrome by taking 5-htp only a short time after dosing methylone(3-4 hours after). I was planning on doing methylone this weekend and the next, and then not taking any more serotonergic drugs for the next 4 months(perhaps I might trip somewhere in that time frame.) Although now I'm a little concerned about fucking up my receptors, especially considering the serotonin syndrome. Should I just lay off it all for awhile? I feel like, as long as I avoid preloading, a healthy diet +vitamin supplements/5htp and exercise should be able to make up for the mental abuse. I couldn't find much relevant to my scenario through google
[QUOTE=zach1193;43806724]40-50mg maybe 60-80 if you're big[/QUOTE] dude what. 30mg can be pretty intense for someone with no amphetamine experience and even I with my tolerance think the more undesirable effects start to approach unbearable levels if you push it past like 60mg. I will concede that I ain't big, by any means. It could be possible that I'm more sensitive to it for whatever reason too, but that seems like a hell of a high starter dose considering just 10mg will get you definitely feeling something unless you're super fat or already a junkie for the stuff. [editline]7th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Mooman;43814653]e. Should I just lay off it all for awhile? I feel like, as long as I avoid preloading, a healthy diet +vitamin supplements/5htp and exercise should be able to make up for the mental abuse. I couldn't find much relevant to my scenario through google[/QUOTE] If you think you're pushing yourself too hard it's always a good idea to give it a break. It'll feel better than burning yourself out in the long term, even though being high all the time might be more fun in the short term. And don't fuck around with that 5-HTP too much, people always seem to think it's safe and healthy until they fuck themselves up with it because it interacts in weird ways with a lot of things.
[QUOTE=thecat100;43804323]What would be a "feelsgood" dose of Adderall for someone who never took it before?[/QUOTE] 30 should be your max if you have no amphetamine tolerance. Adderall is a LOT stronger than anyone gives it credit for. 10-20 you'll probably have a great time, by 30+ (with no tolerance) you might start tweaking pretty hard
I've only taken Adderall once, and it was 45mg of it. I went to the couch and started watching Office Space, my favorite movie. After literally ten minutes I passed out. What? That's speed? Haha I'm not really sure what happened there.
[QUOTE=Amic;43808717]It is a magical substance. 'normal' dose is around 20, maybe 25 mg here. Lower doses like 13 mg can still make you trip nonetheless. For me, i have some bodyload. After some minutes i just dont know whats happening around me, i have nausea and well all i can do is sit down. It is great when you are comfortable, in your room etc, good music, and you'll have a nice time.[/QUOTE] yeah i plan on doing 20 mg, though he only has a scale that measures in x 0.1 so i could be getting anywhere from 20-29mg :tinfoil:
[QUOTE=yy958;43816304]I've only taken Adderall once, and it was 45mg of it. I went to the couch and started watching Office Space, my favorite movie. After literally ten minutes I passed out. What? That's speed? Haha I'm not really sure what happened there.[/QUOTE] You didn't get sold adderall, or you have adhd [editline]7th February 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=OCELOT323;43816965]yeah i plan on doing 20 mg, though he only has a scale that measures in x 0.1 so i could be getting anywhere from 20-29mg :tinfoil:[/QUOTE] It's really not that bad, but you aren't going to really get any euphoria in that low a dose, that's why I recommended the higher ones, and 40mg isn't a lot, I just hate staying up for 30+ hours. If you have some weed, alcohol, or a benzo, you really shouldn't worry about tweaking out, weed can be iffy though, cause it can make me more nervous on higher doses of speed.
[QUOTE=zach1193;43823827] [editline]7th February 2014[/editline] It's really not that bad, but you aren't going to really get any euphoria in that low a dose, that's why I recommended the higher ones, and 40mg isn't a lot, I just hate staying up for 30+ hours. If you have some weed, alcohol, or a benzo, you really shouldn't worry about tweaking out, weed can be iffy though, cause it can make me more nervous on higher doses of speed.[/QUOTE] Zach, are you talking about 4-aco-dmt? Because OCELOT is. 40 mg of 4-aco-dmt would be far too much for a first time.
[QUOTE=zach1193;43823827]You didn't get sold adderall, or you have adhd [editline]7th February 2014[/editline] [/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure it was Adderall, it said amphetamine salts and it was given to me out of my friend's prescription bottle. Fuuuck, I really hope I don't have ADHD. It's not bad to have, I'm just not in the mood.
[QUOTE=yy958;43825755]I'm pretty sure it was Adderall, it said amphetamine salts and it was given to me out of my friend's prescription bottle. Fuuuck, I really hope I don't have ADHD. It's not bad to have, I'm just not in the mood.[/QUOTE] Well by reading your story [QUOTE=yy958;43816304]I've only taken Adderall once, and it was 45mg of it. I went to the couch and started watching Office Space, my favorite movie. After literally ten minutes I passed out. What? That's speed? Haha I'm not really sure what happened there.[/QUOTE] it sounds like the amphetamine hadn't even kicked in yet, 10 minutes isn't much time to wait for your stomach to process the pills especially if you had eaten food prior. This is of course assuming you took it orally. D-amphetamine normally kicks in between 30-60 minutes after ingestion for me.
[QUOTE=Amic;43824128]Zach, are you talking about 4-aco-dmt? Because OCELOT is. 40 mg of 4-aco-dmt would be far too much for a first time.[/QUOTE] 40mg is a hella high dose. ive read some trip reports of people who did that much, it sounds fucking crazy. i plan on doing it tommorow or tonight. i will report back to you guys on my experience.
[QUOTE=Amic;43824128]Zach, are you talking about 4-aco-dmt? Because OCELOT is. 40 mg of 4-aco-dmt would be far too much for a first time.[/QUOTE] Oh fuck hahaha, I thought it was the dude who asked about adderall!
Anyone know a beginners dose for dihydrocodeine taken orally? 30mg tablets whoops spelt it wrong hahaha
[QUOTE=Crumpet;43832922]Anyone know a beginners dose for dihydrocodeine taken orally? 30mg tablets whoops spelt it wrong hahaha[/QUOTE] You eating it, I'd say 2-4 30mg pills
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;43825883]Well by reading your story it sounds like the amphetamine hadn't even kicked in yet, 10 minutes isn't much time to wait for your stomach to process the pills especially if you had eaten food prior. This is of course assuming you took it orally. D-amphetamine normally kicks in between 30-60 minutes after ingestion for me.[/QUOTE] I was kind of tired, so I guess I fucking wasted them :p. I'll just get some more and try it some other time but earlier. I have not smoked weed in a couple months, and I was hoping to bam a couple shots of whiskey and smoke a gram. Is weed and whiskey a good mix? Is there anything else I should throw in there? Thanks.
why is "is weed and whiskey a good mix" even a question it's fucking great good ass whiskey, couple ice cubes, sip on it for a while, puff away it's fuckin' great but like any alcohol and marijuana combination, if you're too drunk when you start smoking you'll just get the spins and puke it up
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;43816016]30 should be your max if you have no amphetamine tolerance. Adderall is a LOT stronger than anyone gives it credit for. 10-20 you'll probably have a great time, by 30+ (with no tolerance) you might start tweaking pretty hard[/QUOTE] Yeah, forgot to mention I have 0 experience with amphetamines. I'll take 30mg and see how it goes.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;43816016]30 should be your max if you have no amphetamine tolerance. Adderall is a LOT stronger than anyone gives it credit for. 10-20 you'll probably have a great time, by 30+ (with no tolerance) you might start tweaking pretty hard[/QUOTE] your avatar crushes my soul and rebuilds it within one frame, only to crush it again, and repeat. [editline]9th February 2014[/editline] also august burns red is fucking sick and basically defined my high school life.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;43840390]why is "is weed and whiskey a good mix" even a question it's fucking great good ass whiskey, couple ice cubes, sip on it for a while, puff away it's fuckin' great but like any alcohol and marijuana combination, if you're too drunk when you start smoking you'll just get the spins and puke it up[/QUOTE] dude I love that combo, get some black label or something and sip at it between bowls, yeeeaah
[QUOTE=Cam00;43790560]I've been looking up nbomes and I'm now interested in trying them; any advice on what to expect/do? Also is it a good idea to smoke during it's effects, as thats what I always do with LSD.[/QUOTE] Smoking is fine - you can feel it changing your trip. But it detracts from the experience a bit. At least it did for me. First joint we smoked had no effect (about 3 hours in), but the second one definitely did(4 hours in).
[QUOTE=zach1193;43837309]You eating it, I'd say 2-4 30mg pills[/QUOTE] thanks, ill give 4 a go and report back or some shit
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