Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=scorpinat;44287830]you are wrong, But that's cool. It doesn't matter to me.
[editline]19th March 2014[/editline]
i am gonna lick this foil for science. if i don't report back on this subject, consider yourself a false prophet of psychedelia[/QUOTE]
I'm telling ya, there is going to be *some* on the foil. It may be a negligible amount, or it may be a somewhat substantial amount. But there is almost certainly going to *some* on there. What could it hurt to lick the foil?
Having seen the way *distributors* in my area package their product, I wouldn't waste any foil.
I know for certain that with 25x-NBOMes dosed on blotter, there is ABSOLUTELY some on the foil. Again, whether or not it is a consequential amount, I am not certain. But there is some.
[editline]19th March 2014[/editline]
If you take into account all of the external variables from the point where the blotter is placed in the foil up to removing the blotter from the foil, it seems improbable that some of the chemical would not have left the blotter and taken up residence on the foil.
Maybe there's a tiny little bit, but it's not going to be anywhere near enough to make you trip, unless you have a good placebo thing going on.
It's not going to make you trip on it's own. I never claimed that. But it's a waste to not lick the foil after gumming the tabs. Now, granted, I've never bought less than 4 tabs at a time (usually a strip), but it stands to reason that there is going to be LSD on the foil. Especially if you aren't buying just one tab.
[editline]19th March 2014[/editline]
How much experience do you have with LSD and other psychedelics dosed on blotter? I'm drawing from my personal experience here, and I'm an experienced enough user to notice when the effects of a drug intensify from a specific action.
In this case, licking the foil. Which has produced increased effects for me.
Also, from my experiences dosing drugs that are also dosed on blotter. Granted, the effective dose(s) of the 25x class of drugs are higher than that of LSD (with most recreational doses being between 700 micrograms and 1mg), but I can tell with absolute certainty that some of the drug had left the blotter and stuck to the foil. Because, you know, it has a very distinguished taste and happens to numb your whole mouth for a little while.
Again, whether or not the amount left on the foil is substantial (it will certainly never be enough to make you trip on its own), there still is SOME and there is absolutely no reason to not lick the foil.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;44291562]It's not going to make you trip on it's own. I never claimed that. But it's a waste to not lick the foil after gumming the tabs. Now, granted, I've never bought less than 4 tabs at a time (usually a strip), but it stands to reason that there is going to be LSD on the foil. Especially if you aren't buying just one tab.
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How much experience do you have with LSD and other psychedelics dosed on blotter? I'm drawing from my personal experience here, and I'm an experienced enough user to notice when the effects of a drug intensify from a specific action.
In this case, licking the foil. Which has produced increased effects for me.
Also, from my experiences dosing drugs that are also dosed on blotter. Granted, the effective dose(s) of the 25x class of drugs are higher than that of LSD (with most recreational doses being between 700 micrograms and 1mg), but I can tell with absolute certainty that some of the drug had left the blotter and stuck to the foil. Because, you know, it has a very distinguished taste and happens to numb your whole mouth for a little while.
Again, whether or not the amount left on the foil is substantial (it will certainly never be enough to make you trip on your own), there still is SOME and there is absolutely no reason to not lick the foil.[/QUOTE]
I don't have much experience at all, only a few trips, and I've never licked the foil after. I, for some reason, thought the argument was about a substantial amount of product on the foil.
I concede, however, to the idea that there is probably an amount of substance left behind that might enhance your trip.
Again, it also depends on environmental variables.
I live in a fairly humid area. One that gets very hot during summer. That period of time between purchasing the foil-wrapped tabs and returning to wherever I intend on dosing (if I don't just dose immediately after buying, which I prefer to do...) allows* for enough exposure to humidity/moisture, regardless of how well it's packaged.
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[QUOTE=cody8295;44291671]I, for some reason, thought the argument was about a substantial amount of product on the foil. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, that was my bad. After re-reading the thread, I realized I deviated from the original debate.
Him licking the foil after gumming one tab is not going to produce any noticeable effects. In that case, I suggested it simply out of habit. Why not, right?
But you're right. One hit, there's going to be an insubstantial amount on the foil.
[editline]19th March 2014[/editline]
People who buy half-sheets or sheets report having full-blown, powerful trips from simply licking the foil after all the tabs have been taken. From a strip to a quarter-sheet, I've noticed significant effects
I have a question for you guys. I took a blotter the other day that was sold to me as LSD and I am having doubts that it was actually real LSD. I took the blotter and immediately I tasted a strong minty bitter flavor. My entire tongue went numb eventually and I ended up swallowing the tab as it had dissolved in my mouth. Around an hour later I was strongly feeling the effects, visuals were very intense. I was seeing fractal patterns all over the walls, stuff was shifting around, and I was having some auditory hallucinations as well.There was a bit of a body load, i felt heavy and like jello. I felt like my mind was being fucked at the same time, I didn't feel my body any more and my identity didnt matter any more. This feeling gave me a bit of anxiety so I laid down and listened to some music. The closed eye visuals were profound, I felt like I had left my body and entered another dimension. I wasn't even a person anymore as far as I knew in my psychedelic state. I remember seeing a room that was made up by 4 green lines and I saw a humanoid figure look at me and come closer. While being fucking amazed at what i saw I couldn't take it so I stopped. This all happened in a span of 5 minutes. Around 5 hours of solidly tripping, the visuals seemed to go away but I was still in the headspace. The visuals at the 6 hour mark was very little. They might as well have been gone, but the headspace lasted for around 8 hours. I think from what i felt, that I have taken an NBOME of some sort and not LSD, what do you guys think?
I often hear that legit LSD shouldn't taste like anything and that bitter taste and numbing sensation is an indicator of NBOMe
I do not speak from experience though
[QUOTE=OCELOT323;44306306]I have a question for you guys. I took a blotter the other day that was sold to me as LSD and I am having doubts that it was actually real LSD. I took the blotter and immediately I tasted a strong minty bitter flavor. My entire tongue went numb eventually and I ended up swallowing the tab as it had dissolved in my mouth. Around an hour later I was strongly feeling the effects, visuals were very intense. I was seeing fractal patterns all over the walls, stuff was shifting around, and I was having some auditory hallucinations as well.There was a bit of a body load, i felt heavy and like jello. I felt like my mind was being fucked at the same time, I didn't feel my body any more and my identity didnt matter any more. This feeling gave me a bit of anxiety so I laid down and listened to some music. The closed eye visuals were profound, I felt like I had left my body and entered another dimension. I wasn't even a person anymore as far as I knew in my psychedelic state. I remember seeing a room that was made up by 4 green lines and I saw a humanoid figure look at me and come closer. While being fucking amazed at what i saw I couldn't take it so I stopped. This all happened in a span of 5 minutes. Around 5 hours of solidly tripping, the visuals seemed to go away but I was still in the headspace. The visuals at the 6 hour mark was very little. They might as well have been gone, but the headspace lasted for around 8 hours. I think from what i felt, that I have taken an NBOME of some sort and not LSD, what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
Taste on bottler? Probably NBOME.
Taste and numbness? Definitely NBOME.
[QUOTE=oscarr;44306707]Taste on bottler? Probably NBOME.
Taste and numbness? Definitely NBOME.[/QUOTE]
ok yeah, i knew something wasnt right. Usually my mind wouldn't have gotten as fucked as it did. I've done LSD one other time and that was relatively tasteless and not nearly as insane as that shit i did the other day. i still had a sick ass trip w/e lol
[editline]20th March 2014[/editline]
but im still kinda pissed because i spent 20 dollars on that bullshit expecting real lsd
[url]http://bunkpolice.org/lsd-identification-guide/[/url]
I think anybody who is buying from the street should use this. It also test for other things. Don't take risks.
[QUOTE=OCELOT323;44306757]ok yeah, i knew something wasnt right. Usually my mind wouldn't have gotten as fucked as it did. I've done LSD one other time and that was relatively tasteless and not nearly as insane as that shit i did the other day. i still had a sick ass trip w/e lol
[editline]20th March 2014[/editline]
but im still kinda pissed because i spent 20 dollars on that bullshit expecting real lsd[/QUOTE]
20 bucks even for real LSD is getting ripped off anyway, not to mention cheap ass nbomes. You can get much cheaper, real LSD on the dark net.
[QUOTE=oscarr;44307986]20 bucks even for real LSD is getting ripped off anyway, not to mention cheap ass nbomes. You can get much cheaper, real LSD on the dark net.[/QUOTE]
yea i know but i wanted LSD so badly, in my area it is hella hard to find LSD. ill look into ordering shit off the internet tho that sounds sick.
[QUOTE=OCELOT323;44311319]yea i know but i wanted LSD so badly, in my area it is hella hard to find LSD. ill look into ordering shit off the internet tho that sounds sick.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/wiki/index/faq[/url]
Read everything. Learn everything.
[QUOTE=oscarr;44311902][url]http://www.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/wiki/index/faq[/url]
Read everything. Learn everything.[/QUOTE]
ah yes, i remember browsing the silk road quite fondly. I remeber back during the summer I got blotters that were completely white and it was definently real LSD. That shit was fucking awesome. I suspect the person i bought it from got it off of the silk road.
eat the foil
ive got some 60mg DHC continus prolonged release tablets, what's a good recreational dose?
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in fact if anyone here is an opiate pro then I have a lot of questions (involving co-codamol and tramadol too). please add me on steam as the fp app is a pain (or add tcbizzle on snapchat)
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which of these will be the most fun?
tramadol, any dose, oral
co-cocodamol, any dose, oral
hydromorphone, 4mg, nasal
gabapentin, 300-600mg, oral
dihydrocodeine, 60-240mg, oral
I have no tolerance and plenty of all of these pills but research is hard on my phone as most drug-related sites are blocked by my service
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i also have a lot of amitriptyline but I don't think that has recreational value
Going to be getting some 25c-NBOMe in a day or two. I tripped this past Friday on LSD, if I take the 25c on Friday or Saturday will I still experience the full effects? I know NBOMes build tolerance quite rapidly but I haven't found much about the other way around. I plan on dosing somewhere between 400-800 ug.
if you can get lsd why would you bother getting 25c
[QUOTE=Lebowski;44336192]if you can get lsd why would you bother getting 25c[/QUOTE]
Variety? I understand that the effects are similar but they're still two distinct compounds.
[QUOTE=PajamaSam;44336285]Variety? I understand that the effects are similar but they're still two distinct compounds.[/QUOTE]
There's also something called common sense, deciding to get something from a longer-used and more well known group of psychs instead of jumping right to NBOMES with their poorly known associated dangers? Why not try to get DMT, AMT, a DOx? There's a ton of shit out there that doesn't have a bunch of reports of people online saying it made them feel retarded for like a week after doing it.
If you want variety, there's plenty out there and safer shit to search for.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;44336370]There's also something called common sense, deciding to get something from a longer-used and more well known group of psychs instead of jumping right to NBOMES with their poorly known associated dangers? Why not try to get DMT, AMT, a DOx? There's a ton of shit out there that doesn't have a bunch of reports of people online saying it made them feel retarded for like a week after doing it.
If you want variety, there's plenty out there and safer shit to search for.[/QUOTE]
A real psychonaut doesn't limit its use because of risk, just be prepared for the risk.
and because i don't like it, doesn't mean everyone should dislike it
[editline]24th March 2014[/editline]
Just don't be that dude that takes 25 blotters of an substance that is known to have killed people.
use every drug with respect, and some drugs require more than just respect, but common sense.
something that a real psychonaut has.
[QUOTE=scorpinat;44337832]A real psychonaut doesn't limit its use because of risk, just be prepared for the risk.
and because i don't like it, doesn't mean everyone should dislike it
[editline]24th March 2014[/editline]
Just don't be that dude that takes 25 blotters of an substance that is known to have killed people.
use every drug with respect, and some drugs require more than just respect, but common sense.
something that a real psychonaut has.[/QUOTE]
A real psychonaut will genuinely care for his mental well-being. If anybody knows how delicate the human brain is, it's a psychonaut.
-snip-
I figured it out.
[QUOTE=cody8295;44339240]A real psychonaut will genuinely care for his mental well-being. If anybody knows how delicate the human brain is, it's a psychonaut.[/QUOTE]
if one genuinely cares for your mental well-being , you don't take ANY drugs
[editline]24th March 2014[/editline]
Peabrain, it's definitively not Ket. sounds like mdma to me, maybe Methylone or 4 FMP? 6-APB ?
Ketamine are usually white crystals, mdma usually yellowish (correct me if i am wrong)
but i don't see myself dancing on ketamine, i would probably be sitting on the floor and be slow
anyone know the street value of tramadol, preferably in the uk?
[QUOTE=Lebowski;44336370]There's also something called common sense, deciding to get something from a longer-used and more well known group of psychs instead of jumping right to NBOMES with their poorly known associated dangers? Why not try to get DMT, AMT, a DOx? There's a ton of shit out there that doesn't have a bunch of reports of people online saying it made them feel retarded for like a week after doing it.
If you want variety, there's plenty out there and safer shit to search for.[/QUOTE]
There is enough information out there about NBOMes that I feel comfortable taking them. I'm aware of the risks, but I try to treat stuff with as much care as I can. I do an allergy test, dose low for a first trip, and I'm not going to be using it regularly. I think that by taking steps like these to minimize risk, there's not much more danger than any other substance out there. Obviously, this sort of value judgement is up to the individual, but I wouldn't say that deciding it's worth it requires a lack a common sense.
i don't like the nbomes myself, but i have to say it was an interesting experience, and saying it is just like lsd is comparing shrooms to lsd.
nbomes are unique in their kind, sure they can mess you up.. but all drugs can go bad (yes even acid can go real bad)
the only thing that needs to stop, is marketing and selling it as lsd. because you don't want that if you are expecting lsd.
So I found out I have some Benadryl home, it contains 25mg DPH pills inside (I forget how many).
How many mg is a a good amount to get a buzz but still be able to act?
i took 150mg tramadol two days ago (with no tolerance), is it a good/bad idea to take 60mg dihydrocodeine tonight? i like the warm fuzzy feeling and i clearly don't know a lot about opiates
[QUOTE=thecat100;44342948]So I found out I have some Benadryl home, it contains 25mg DPH pills inside (I forget how many).
How many mg is a a good amount to get a buzz but still be able to act?[/QUOTE]
I took 350mg and was able to act fine. Little motor impairment
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