• Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;44629640]I wonder how good it would be to teach people the different strains of cannabis. Like by making the comparison of how cannabis can be this tasteful consumable like alcohol. Alcohol you have different drinks like wines, beers, and liquors well with weed you have your sativa, indica, and hybrids, you also have your different ways of consuming through elaborate bongs, pieces, papers, edibles, oil rigs, etc. There really is a willy wonka-ness to how many ways there are about consuming cannabis it really should be marketed as such. Sure you have your beer piss to just get you drunk like mexican brick shit to just get high but cannabis can be so much more than that, and I feel like people forget that. I remember reading about how a ex microsoft executive wanted to make ultra quality weed, like super expensive quality weed meant for super rich consumers like how they have super expensive luxury champagnes and wines.[/QUOTE] Plus there's the fact that better weed gets you a significantly better high, much more than alcohol.
i asked this in the discussion thread but it was 420 so no reply as youd expect, poor judgement on my part could these effects be those of a low dose of cocaine (nasally ingested)? Numbed nose Numbed mouth Fingers/hands buzzing (?) Very slight euphoria (im talking super subtle) Everything but the numbing and buzzing being very subtle/unnoticeable, the numb/buzz combo went after like 20-30 mins there was some definite drug effect happening because i felt different if i took a break from moving and stood still, but i dunno if that was just the alcohol still
i don't know about how low of a dose you're talking but that def sounds like a cocaine high i've done a shitload and finally have access to primo shit again and high quality cocaine will have you buzzing off one small line
[QUOTE=cis.joshb;44635916]Plus there's the fact that better weed gets you a significantly better high, much more than alcohol.[/QUOTE] honestly there's a lot more variation in types of highs than in alcohol. if you're drunk, you're just drunk and pretty much all alcohol is ingested pretty similarly. (can taste very different, of course.) but with weed there's just so much variation and being "levels" of high can even be quite interesting. smoking a single bowl gives a different kind of high than smoking like 4 bowls, which is super neat.
Does anyone have any idea if the saapi vine from ayuhusaka without the leaves too make the DMT active would work for sleep? I've heard that it makes you incredibly drowsy but the only time it becomes a trip is when you mix the vine, and the leave together.
Does anyone know if DXM and antipsychotics are a bad mix? I'm on them and was wondering if there would be an interaction when I try DXM in a week or two
Well, I don't know for sure weather or not it's a drug interaction, but if you're taking antipsychotics, it's probably for a reason. And DXM probably wouldn't help this "reason" Then again I have no clue why you're taking them, so I can't judge.
[QUOTE=postmanX3;44636625]honestly there's a lot more variation in types of highs than in alcohol. if you're drunk, you're just drunk and pretty much all alcohol is ingested pretty similarly. (can taste very different, of course.) but with weed there's just so much variation and being "levels" of high can even be quite interesting. smoking a single bowl gives a different kind of high than smoking like 4 bowls, which is super neat.[/QUOTE] Well I would say the type of alcohol you drink matters. Like ciders tend to take a longer time to hit you compared to beer. Some people have different reactions to liquor, I'm sure you all heard something along the lines of "vodka makes me more open and happy, whereas rum makes me hate myself and cry." Now I don't know how much of that is psychological or socially constructed but there is some leeway, just not to the degree of weed.
Just ordered 28 grams of broken Latvian Amanita caps to try smoking since smoking it is supposed to deliver a trippy but not overwhelming experience. Anyone have experience with these special little fuckers?
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;44643269]Well I would say the type of alcohol you drink matters. Like ciders tend to take a longer time to hit you compared to beer. Some people have different reactions to liquor, I'm sure you all heard something along the lines of "vodka makes me more open and happy, whereas rum makes me hate myself and cry." Now I don't know how much of that is psychological or socially constructed but there is some leeway, just not to the degree of weed.[/QUOTE] Lol most people I know get destroyed by vodka. Emotional, depressed, fighting, etc.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;44643269]Well I would say the type of alcohol you drink matters. Like ciders tend to take a longer time to hit you compared to beer. Some people have different reactions to liquor, I'm sure you all heard something along the lines of "vodka makes me more open and happy, whereas rum makes me hate myself and cry." Now I don't know how much of that is psychological or socially constructed but there is some leeway, just not to the degree of weed.[/QUOTE] and tequila just makes everyone sick
i've never had anything but good experiences with either on that note, I don't tend to drink like a fuck wit :P i mean it's been known to happen... in the past, possibly a tiny bit as of late. it's not so much the type of alcohol, more your responsibility with it. suppose your body's tolerance to your intake plays a huge role, i've only ever had a few bad experiences with alcohol and that taught me the rules on overindulgence always drink slow, don't aim to get smashed straight away, otherwise what do you expect to happen? drinks with lower alcohol content don't get you drunk as fast, as such they give something of a wean in to the experience most people I know that drink vodka or tequila decide it's okay to smash back what's quite obviously too much at once because they expect the same, and don't give their bodies time to ease in, in regard to how much alcohol hits you at once. drinking a couple beers over a few hours = slow intake, body absorbs it at a slower rate because of the lower content and higher content of liquid other than ethanol drinking a couple shots of high percentage alcoholic beverages in the same time, well no shit you wont feel drunk until it all hits you at once also expecting it to make you emotional will lower your inhibition towards being emotional shit like that it's like taking 3 tabs of acid at once vs 3 tabs over the space of an hour or two which do you think is gonna cause more havoc? the same applies to all drugs.
I think the type of alcohol does matter though. I feel differently when I drink the same amount of vodka or whiskey over the same period of time. And rum or tequila always makes me feel bad. There may be some part of placebo effect of course.
if i want to buy a decent handheld vape pen where should i look considering a magic flight box, i used a friend's and was very happy with it. also considering an atmos raw because apparently they're quite good, but i can't seem to find one. i found one on some site called "rakuten" but it doesn't look particularly reputable, especially considering they're charging like a fourth of the going price for one.
[QUOTE=Zanpa;44648665]I think the type of alcohol does matter though. I feel differently when I drink the same amount of vodka or whiskey over the same period of time. And rum or tequila always makes me feel bad. There may be some part of placebo effect of course.[/QUOTE] I have noticed a difference in overall experience from drink to drink, but I think it's got something to do with the mindset that drink puts you in depending on how much you like drinking it, how it tastes, things like that The reality of it is alcohol itself is just kind of a dirty feeling drug, but you can get past that if you don't get drunk enough to notice how dirty it feels and or if the drink tastes good and in itself puts you in a good mindset because of that I do feel high sugar content beverages could definitely amplify that dirty feeling though but the ethanol in it will always be doing the same thing to your consciousness, for the most part, as such it's pretty easy to maintain positive experiences with any drink, if you drink those drinks responsibly.. on that note drinking a drink you enjoy will always help keep you in a positive mindset, cause you wont feel like you're drinking disgusting shit just to get drunk and as such see less of a problem in doing so instead you're enjoying the experience and it masks that fucking yourself up mindset that comes about when you drink really shitty tasting drinks
[QUOTE=postmanX3;44649412]if i want to buy a decent handheld vape pen where should i look considering a magic flight box, i used a friend's and was very happy with it. also considering an atmos raw because apparently they're quite good, but i can't seem to find one. i found one on some site called "rakuten" but it doesn't look particularly reputable, especially considering they're charging like a fourth of the going price for one.[/QUOTE] Atmos Jr is on ebay for around 20$ and it has free shipping. I've used it, its pretty good
Would firecrackers smell up the house?
Has anyone tried shrooms? ( magic mushrooms, I don't know what they're called). I've always wanted to try them but can never get my hands on them. They good?
[QUOTE=Silent Bang;44661216]Has anyone tried shrooms? ( magic mushrooms, I don't know what they're called). I've always wanted to try them but can never get my hands on them. They good?[/QUOTE] they are fantastic, but not for everyone
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;44643269]Well I would say the type of alcohol you drink matters. Like ciders tend to take a longer time to hit you compared to beer. Some people have different reactions to liquor, I'm sure you all heard something along the lines of "vodka makes me more open and happy, whereas rum makes me hate myself and cry." Now I don't know how much of that is psychological or socially constructed but there is some leeway, just not to the degree of weed.[/QUOTE] That's all psychological. Ethanol is ethanol is ethanol.
[QUOTE=Silent Bang;44661216]Has anyone tried shrooms? ( magic mushrooms, I don't know what they're called). I've always wanted to try them but can never get my hands on them. They good?[/QUOTE] I've tried 2 times, both were good but I don't really remember them. It's not my kind of thing though, fucked with my brain pretty good.
Are supplements actually that important when you take MDMA? It seems really annoying to go out of my way to find and take them.
MDMA is really bad for your serotonin receptor. try to be as healthy as possible if you gonna do it
[QUOTE=KillerTele;44664551]I've tried 2 times, both were good but I don't really remember them. It's not my kind of thing though, fucked with my brain pretty good.[/QUOTE] what does it actually do to you. What effect does it have? [QUOTE=scorpinat;44661260]they are fantastic, but not for everyone[/QUOTE] Why not? What's bad about them?
[QUOTE=Silent Bang;44666877]what does it actually do to you. What effect does it have? [/QUOTE] Well as I remember it a thing I said was "it feels like I'm not tripping but I'm tripping balls", discussion with friends was fun because we really didn't say full sentences to each other but we all understood exactly what we meant. I didn't have that many visual effects, lights were sharper and colors stood out way more. I remember my room looked so incredibly awesome. Also my curtains waved around. I saw patterns in stuff and fuzzy things looked very very fuzzy. We had a hard time to decide what to do because we would do one thing, then get bored of it a minute later and go do something else just to get bored again and so on. In the weeks that followed I had weird feelings in my body, deja vu attacks, mood swings and various other things. It wasn't worth it tbh.
[QUOTE=Zanpa;44666168]Are supplements actually that important when you take MDMA? It seems really annoying to go out of my way to find and take them.[/QUOTE] They're definitely worth it, not only will you be frying your brain less (if at all) but you can also wake up after a night of rolling with an afterglow if you get everything right. Everyone thinks that feeling awful the next day is just a part of MDMA but it doesn't have to be
[QUOTE=Faren;44667048]They're definitely worth it, not only will you be frying your brain less (if at all) but you can also wake up after a night of rolling with an afterglow if you get everything right. Everyone thinks that feeling awful the next day is just a part of MDMA but it doesn't have to be[/QUOTE] I see. I went ahead and read quite a few recommandations about what to take, with different things every time. What would you guys recommand? From what I've read, the most important seem to be vitamins C & E and/or R-ALA before/during the roll, and 5-HTP after. I was planning on having a lot of fresh pressed orange juice for the vitamins, and I haven't looked into R-ALA yet but I hope I can find it. Apparently it's what stops you from feeling sad the days after. And getting lollies to prevent jaw clenching, and also because I haven't had lollies in a decade :D
magnesium if you want to PREVENT jaw clenching lollies/gum if you want to enjoy the magnet lock jaw experience without damaging your teeth [editline]28th April 2014[/editline] you sound like you got it more or less covered, not sure about the R-ALA or whatever but everything else is your basics and pretty much all you really need also afaik neurotoxicity isn't too much of a concern at standard recreational doses, though the supplements (namely vitamin C) can definitely be neuroprotective and that is a precaution you should always take, it's only really a concern once you start going into high doses and or prolonged/repeated exposure, it compounds with abuse, the studies that were done on it (IIRC, I may be wrong and feel free to correct me on this one someone) were on mice or in vitro with doses far higher than what smart humans are typically exposed too, but I could be wrong on that and it could be that any MDMA exposure can be neurotoxic without some precautions(?) -i feel like i've made this argument before and someone's pointed it out to me, but it's been a while since I've really looked into it and it's a little tricky to find a real answer as to whether or not recreational doses (50mg-200mg) cause any real damage especially in the long term the sadness after/hangover is typically caused by the depletion of serotonin leading to lower levels being present post experience, this is why you take 5-htp if you want to ease the 'hangover', as 5-htp metabolizes into serotonin, as well as melatonin and tryptophan. but once again the hangover effects are something that increases with dosage, I also recommend you avoid re dosing if you don't NEED to stay up re dosing can lengthen your roll but it's rarely worth it unless you need to stay up, as it increases your exposure to the drug which increases the risks of neurotoxicity, and it wont ever feel anywhere near as good as that initial dose let alone make you feel that much better, just keep you up and awake for longer and lead to a more intense crash relly don't take any 5-htp until about 12 hours after your dose , in case of complications. personally I rarely bother, never noticed any detrimental side effects without pre or post load, but then I don't go doing ridiculous doses or at a frequency that doesn't allow my system ample recovery time I have an after glow every time and I tend to feel absolutely fine post experience, but that's just me, not everyone reacts like that, none the less I don't doubt that i've probably done myself a bit of damage and don't forget to take a good break between your experiences, if you do it every weekend you're just gonna fuck your serotonin system up in the long run, as well as rapidly increase your tolerance to the drug, I usually give it a month at the bare minimum but it's something I only do a few times a year total (not once a month on average), but it's recommended to wait up to 3 months to really keep the magic of mdma alive. ultimately the less often you do it, the safer and better your experiences with it will be, and you wont find yourself complaining about the drugs not working at what's honestly perfectly standard doses etc. so annoying when you hear dickheads talk about how much of a shit time they're having only to find out they've been taking 3-4 pills every weekend for the last few months.
Great post, thanks. I should have all the info I need now :) Although if someone else wants to chime in it's always appreciated!
fuck this is frustrating, I feel like i'm fighting a losing battle here sometimes, my grasp on language feels as though it's heavily deteriorated and I need to constantly proof read my posts these days as i'm just making fuck loads of little mistakes things like missing basic words, adding/missing prefixes and suffixes, using incorrect words (such as the inverse of what I meant), amongst other things such as poor grammatical structure, placing words in the wrong order etc, excessively repeating my points and approaching things with circular logic, things like that... It never used to be like this, or at the least I was never very aware of it, I think that meth bender did some real damage to my neural pathways... I know this isn't really a post for the question thread but I might as well turn it into one have you guys noticed these kinda things in my posts?
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