• Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=Consciousness;44668363]fuck this is frustrating, I feel like i'm fighting a losing battle here sometimes, my grasp on language feels as though it's heavily deteriorated and I need to constantly proof read my posts these days as i'm just making fuck loads of little mistakes things like missing basic words, adding/missing prefixes and suffixes, using incorrect words (such as the inverse of what I meant), amongst other things such as poor grammatical structure, placing words in the wrong order etc, excessively repeating my points and approaching things with circular logic, things like that... It never used to be like this, or at the least I was never very aware of it, I think that meth bender did some real damage to my neural pathways... I know this isn't really a post for the question thread but I might as well turn it into one have you guys noticed these kinda things in my posts?[/QUOTE] Read a book and you'll be fine in a week
wonder if I can find my copy of 1984 and brave new world, i've been meaning to get around to reading those
Preload with 5-htp for three days before hand, it'll improve your roll. Be sure to take plenty of antioxidants to ward off neurotoxicity.
[QUOTE=Zanpa;44667747]I see. I went ahead and read quite a few recommandations about what to take, with different things every time. What would you guys recommand? From what I've read, the most important seem to be vitamins C & E and/or R-ALA before/during the roll, and 5-HTP after. I was planning on having a lot of fresh pressed orange juice for the vitamins, and I haven't looked into R-ALA yet but I hope I can find it. Apparently it's what stops you from feeling sad the days after. And getting lollies to prevent jaw clenching, and also because I haven't had lollies in a decade :D[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.rollsafe.org/"]Rollsafe[/URL] will tell you everything you need to know
[QUOTE=Lebowski;44669548]Preload with 5-htp for three days before hand, it'll improve your roll.[/QUOTE] I've read that you should not do that. Only after. [editline]29th April 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Faren;44673724][URL="http://www.rollsafe.org/"]Rollsafe[/URL] will tell you everything you need to know[/QUOTE] Yeah that was one of the first sources I used. But when they recommend using a dozen of supplements, I'm just like eeeeeh. I almost never use any kind of medication or supplements or anything, like once every two years at best. To be honest I'd rather just deal with a day or two of feeling down than put yet another pill in me. I'll use antioxidants for the (possible) neurotoxicity, but the rest I'll pass on. Thanks to both of you for your advice!
[QUOTE=Zanpa;44674173]I've read that you should absolutely not do that.[/QUOTE] For what medical reason is that not a good idea? if you take the recommended amount, at the right time; there shouldn't be any issue with 5-htp; I've heard and personally experienced the bonuses of pre-loading with 5-htp and antioxidants for up to three days prior to a roll, and then for three days after. Mainly you shouldn't have to worry about popping all of those supplements, just take some fish oil and a multivitamin along with some 5-htp in the mornings and everything goes right as rain
[QUOTE=Lebowski;44674198]For what medical reason is that not a good idea? if you take the recommended amount, at the right time; there shouldn't be any issue with 5-htp; I've heard and personally experienced the bonuses of pre-loading with 5-htp and antioxidants for up to three days prior to a roll, and then for three days after. Mainly you shouldn't have to worry about popping all of those supplements, just take some fish oil and a multivitamin along with some 5-htp in the mornings and everything goes right as rain[/QUOTE] From what I've read 5-htp is used to get back the serotonin you used up while rolling. Taking too much before could make you have too much serotonin or something like that. And that you should take it no sooner than 12 hours after the roll. I don't think it matters too much to be honest, but that's what I read from a guy who seemed to know his shit really well. He posts on reddit under the name MisterYouAreSoDumb.
[QUOTE=Zanpa;44674223]From what I've read 5-htp is used to get back the serotonin you used up while rolling. Taking too much before could make you have too much serotonin or something like that. And that you should take it no sooner than 12 hours after the roll. I don't think it matters too much to be honest, but that's what I read from a guy who seemed to know his shit really well. He posts on reddit under the name MisterYouAreSoDumb.[/QUOTE] Ah yeah, it's actually no problem to take 5-htp for slightly prolonged periods, most of what you get from 5-htp ends up being excreted in your urine because 5-htp converts into serotonin in your liver; most of it ends up unable to cross the blood-brain barrier. That's why you want to do it for a couple of days prior to improve your roll. You just don't want to take a whole bunch of 5-htp at once, that's really bad for you.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;44674285]Ah yeah, it's actually no problem to take 5-htp for slightly prolonged periods, most of what you get from 5-htp ends up being excreted in your urine because 5-htp converts into serotonin in your liver; most of it ends up unable to cross the blood-brain barrier. That's why you want to do it for a couple of days prior to improve your roll. You just don't want to take a whole bunch of 5-htp at once, that's really bad for you.[/QUOTE] I see. Thanks for the clarification.
So how long should I wait after plugging roughly 10cc's of hydrocodone water? I took 30mg and I want to plug more but idk how long I should wait after doing the first 30. but asap is what I'm looking for to intensify the high as much as possible (only have 50mg to work with so I'm getting high regardless but still.)
[QUOTE=Lebowski;44674198]For what medical reason is that not a good idea? if you take the recommended amount, at the right time; there shouldn't be any issue with 5-htp; I've heard and personally experienced the bonuses of pre-loading with 5-htp and antioxidants for up to three days prior to a roll, and then for three days after. Mainly you shouldn't have to worry about popping all of those supplements, just take some fish oil and a multivitamin along with some 5-htp in the mornings and everything goes right as rain[/QUOTE] shouldn't do it too close too or during a roll in case of excess serotonin production during your roll, something about a (probably very low) risk of serotonin syndrome because your systems already using up large amounts, no need to create more in that state or you'd just end up flooding your receptors with excess (which is where the serotonin syndrome risk comes into play, i'm guessing) not sure where I read the thing about 12 hours after the dose, in all honesty it was probably the same source (misteryouaresodumb, i've seen him around on reddit) but it might have something to do with giving those receptors a bit of a break, or something, i could be wrong. either way, in standard amounts, it shouldn't be too much of an issue, and using it before your roll for a couple days can definitely improve it
is it fine to order RCs from non-darknet vendors? i want to get some mxe and found an online store selling it, and i know it is legal in us, but i want to be sure before setting down the cash since it only sells in 5g samples, which would cost me about $200
Tried smoking cannabis for the first time, didn't work out well since i kept coughing all the time. I mixed it with a cigarette. What other way do you guys recommend?
[QUOTE=zach1193;44675769]So how long should I wait after plugging roughly 10cc's of hydrocodone water? I took 30mg and I want to plug more but idk how long I should wait after doing the first 30. but asap is what I'm looking for to intensify the high as much as possible (only have 50mg to work with so I'm getting high regardless but still.)[/QUOTE] Just eat the other 20mg
[QUOTE=Gripen2;44678805]Tried smoking cannabis for the first time, didn't work out well since i kept coughing all the time. I mixed it with a cigarette. What other way do you guys recommend?[/QUOTE] do you regularly smoke tobacco? try it on its own if not [editline]29th April 2014[/editline] like, in a pipe or rolled on its own
[QUOTE=Gripen2;44678805]Tried smoking cannabis for the first time, didn't work out well since i kept coughing all the time. I mixed it with a cigarette. What other way do you guys recommend?[/QUOTE] Just roll a regular j, or make an apple bowl. I've mixed with tobacco a few times and I really think the two are better on their own.
[QUOTE=Gripen2;44678805]Tried smoking cannabis for the first time, didn't work out well since i kept coughing all the time. I mixed it with a cigarette. What other way do you guys recommend?[/QUOTE] Just try it again, usually if people don't get high their first time, they get ripped their second. Takes them time to form more cannabinoid receptors.
[QUOTE=Cpn Crunch21;44680494]Just try it again, usually if people don't get high their first time, they get ripped their second. Takes them time to form more cannabinoid receptors.[/QUOTE] Exactly what happened to me. Felt nothing the first time, but stoned out of my mind the second. If you're finding its too harsh and making you cough, try grinding about 60-40 weed-tobacco together in your grinder and rolling that into a J. Works wonders for me. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] I normally put a bit of tobacco between the roach and the weed as well so I'm not smoking down to the card. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Another thing, if you roll your roach quite small and cone the joint, it tends to thicken up the smoke a bit because it makes you take slow, long drags Rolling 101 [img]http://facepunch.com/fp/emoot/eng101.gif[/img]
so i went over to my friends place to hit his bong.... and the thing is fucking clogged. it's a double tree perc bong and the first perc is clogged. we've been trying to clean it but hardly any ISO makes it into even the first perc. what would be the best way to clean this? [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] been at this for awhile almost thinking we should just toss it in the dish washer and hope for the best
no dish washer bruh just heat up some water in a kettle and pour it in, do NOT put cold water on glass after introducing hot water to it, you need to let it cool down on it's own just use scalding water to loosen that shit up to help get that iso in there
Anybody try nootropics? I just dosed some aniracetam today for the first time. I'm hoping it may fix my anxiety / breathing issues with psychedelics.
personally I would never experiment with racetams or any other related 'nootropics' considering all the horror stories of people coming out of it with permanent loss. It's fucking horrifying reading 'i wes taking piractam nd it strated givng mee hedachs and brein fog adn now i cnt evn type how do i get bak 2 norml??" just be satisfied with your own capacity and don't take the risks, or if you are going to make sure to look up all the negative side effects that are possible instead of just focusing on the positive. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] [quote]I've had little relief from the "brain fog" since it set in again since I stopped using Aniracetam. It sucks that the effects weren't permanent, or at least a little longer. Life has really deteriorated since I discontinued use of it. If things continue to go downhill at this pace I'll buy some more within a week. My budget is being stretched at this point, though. My doctor is slow to help me, seeming to be more interested in money (My psych said he wants me to have a blood test performed, so I went to the doctor on a separate appointment. I was with him less than two minutes, he told me where to take the blood test, signed some forms so that the results would be sent to him, then charged me $65.00. This was literally a two minute affair). I know brain fog isn't a clinically recognized term or illness, but it's something that is so obviously real to me. I think this must be what it was like to be dyslexic in the 1950's. I mean really, I can't remember sentences I read, or think of what to write next when set a specific task like writing a letter or an essay. Simple math problems that are normally very easy to solve are doing my head in - really doing my head in. I feel like my head is full of cement and it's driving me insane. Modafinil helps a little, but it takes about four hours for it to give any relief from the brain fog. It's also causing me some mild agitation, which I can deal with on the social level since I know it's irrational "thinking", but it's beginning to reverse my social progress faster than the actual progress of the past few months itself was. It's like a building that took weeks/months to build being taken out by fire in a day.[/quote] src: [url]http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/54549-really-severe-brain-fog-since-discontinuing-aniracetam/[/url] You can find TONS of horror stories similar to this. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Like, is the ability to think better or possibly have less anxiety, only POSSIBLY mind you; worth the possibility of permanent brain fog? I don't think so, if I needed to study hard I'd take some plain old stimulants; or if I was having anxiety I'd take a low dose of some valerian or something.
I understand some people have dealt with these kinds of problems. I am interested in trying this on and off, not as a daily supplement kind of thing. Perhaps to take with psychedelics to enhance the effects. I've seen some of those stories but how many are there vs the total amount of users who do not deal with these problems? Moreover, how do you know their problems are permanent? If somebody posts they are having issues, even if they are severe, have they checked back in a few months and told forums how they are doing? as for stimulants: I can't take them anymore, they literally gave me psychosis taking prescribed doses. I see things out of the corner of my eye, hear things, and more. I don't even want to touch them again.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;44688170]personally I would never experiment with racetams or any other related 'nootropics' considering all the horror stories of people coming out of it with permanent loss. It's fucking horrifying reading 'i wes taking piractam nd it strated givng mee hedachs and brein fog adn now i cnt evn type how do i get bak 2 norml??" just be satisfied with your own capacity and don't take the risks, or if you are going to make sure to look up all the negative side effects that are possible instead of just focusing on the positive. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] src: [url]http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/54549-really-severe-brain-fog-since-discontinuing-aniracetam/[/url] You can find TONS of horror stories similar to this. [editline]30th April 2014[/editline] Like, is the ability to think better or possibly have less anxiety, only POSSIBLY mind you; worth the possibility of permanent brain fog? I don't think so, if I needed to study hard I'd take some plain old stimulants; or if I was having anxiety I'd take a low dose of some valerian or something.[/QUOTE] Sheisse, that sure put me off. I'll stick with my 2c-p as nootropic I think :)
How long will these withdrawal's last? I feel so damned sore and achey and no motivation or energy for anything, it's already been 2 or 3 days (idk when to start counting, day of, or day after), and it wasn't that bad of an addiction, But I'm more than tempted to just subside this feeling with a little bit of a somethin somethin. Also this constant runny nose and being cold forever business has got to go! What's worse is, my last use wasn't even good! I ended up overdosing hydrocodone (nowhere near fatal) I guess because I got a shitty migraine, nausea, and I felt a bit dizzy and just generally bad, whereas the idea was I was gonna feel like jesus' son.
[QUOTE=zach1193;44703067]How long will these withdrawal's last? I feel so damned sore and achey and no motivation or energy for anything, it's already been 2 or 3 days (idk when to start counting, day of, or day after), and it wasn't that bad of an addiction, But I'm more than tempted to just subside this feeling with a little bit of a somethin somethin. Also this constant runny nose and being cold forever business has got to go! What's worse is, my last use wasn't even good! I ended up overdosing hydrocodone (nowhere near fatal) I guess because I got a shitty migraine, nausea, and I felt a bit dizzy and just generally bad, whereas the idea was I was gonna feel like jesus' son.[/QUOTE] I'm guessing the lack of effect is due to tolerance, for example a couple weeks ago I took 100mg of hydro, and didn't feel anything except a bit of a headache and spontaneously vomited after about an hour. Oh and just to clarify it wasn't because of the APAP. I mean I'm sure it didn't help the nausea, but last week I took 36 percocet in 3 days and didn't feel much of an upset Oh and the withdrawls will last probably around a week, for the worst of the symptoms. Even with a lower end habit
[QUOTE=jonashappy;44703374]I'm guessing the lack of effect is due to tolerance, for example a couple weeks ago I took 100mg of hydro, and didn't feel anything except a bit of a headache and spontaneously vomited after about an hour. Oh and just to clarify it wasn't because of the APAP. I mean I'm sure it didn't help the nausea, but last week I took 36 percocet in 3 days and didn't feel much of an upset Oh and the withdrawls will last probably around a week, for the worst of the symptoms. Even with a lower end habit[/QUOTE] Fuck me a weeek! haha Well How would one taper, cause there's just no realistic way I can deal with this for a week unless I'm embargoed from cash or pills, which I probably won't be. Fortunately, I guess, is I don't have any real obligations for the time being... Man this really is it, what everyone always says, won't be long til I try heroin now huh? Guess I shouldn't have challenged what I already knew.
[QUOTE=zach1193;44703824]Fuck me a weeek! haha Well How would one taper, cause there's just no realistic way I can deal with this for a week unless I'm embargoed from cash or pills, which I probably won't be. Fortunately, I guess, is I don't have any real obligations for the time being... Man this really is it, what everyone always says, won't be long til I try heroin now huh? Guess I shouldn't have challenged what I already knew.[/QUOTE] Well you either quit now or wait till you hit rock bottom, and who knows how much of your life you will waste until then.. but I feel you dude, I was supposed to be smart, straight A's in school and people look up to me for my intelligence.. but I just feel like a fucking dumbass junkie
[QUOTE=jonashappy;44703897]Well you either quit now or wait till you hit rock bottom, and who knows how much of your life you will waste until then.. but I feel you dude, I was supposed to be smart, straight A's in school and people look up to me for my intelligence.. but I just feel like a fucking dumbass junkie[/QUOTE] Couldn't have explained it better myself, I'm the same way previously being an A-B student, to a hopeless abuser, maybe not hopeless, but it seems that way. But you know, being in the same boat, longer I see, it's not as easy as saying "yep, today feels like a good day to quit" Cause even if that day felt good, the following suck dick and you're fighting yourself and the cold.... the cold is just the worst.
[QUOTE=zach1193;44703976]Couldn't have explained it better myself, I'm the same way previously being an A-B student, to a hopeless abuser, maybe not hopeless, but it seems that way. But you know, being in the same boat, longer I see, it's not as easy as saying "yep, today feels like a good day to quit" Cause even if that day felt good, the following suck dick and you're fighting yourself and the cold.... the cold is just the worst.[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm shakey and have cold sweats n anxiety out the ass
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