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[QUOTE=brianosaur;41778783]unsnipped[/QUOTE]i was too fast for you bitch i saw
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;41775844]Why would popping MDMA make you throw up? The small dose of DXM should not interfere with your roll. Never heard of red MDMA, what's the consistency? and what makes you think the colour indicates a 1-2% impurity? Like how do you get that number. [editline]9th August 2013[/editline] it's some slang term for MDMA or what people assume is MDMA.[/QUOTE] I've heard molly can make people nauseous, so I asked about it, just like, food in your stomach? It's rocks the size of maybe the biggest the width is like the size of a dime. (10 cent piece) As for it being red and guessing how pure it is, I don't really remember at the moment how I came to that conclusion exactly. Long story short I did it, and it's pretty good molly I think, def not mephedrone though, as I've accidentally taken that before.
[QUOTE=xxxanax;41776912]Is tramadol worthwhile at all? I can get em generic a buck for a 50mg cap but people say it's a shitty drug and not similar to codeine at all[/QUOTE] Some people REALLY like it, while others (like me) get hardly any buzz from it, although I do get some decent pain relief. I've been rx'd it for like a year now I think, but yeah if I were to get rid of them the most I would charge is one buck ea. I also have to warn of the the very real dangers of SEIZURES from pushing your limits with this drug. Look on erowid and you'll see far too many tales of trips to the hospitals because of a seizure. If you try it, start with 2 or 3. If you take too much, even if you don't have a seizure, you'll be sweating your ass off and feeling very sick.
[QUOTE=jonashappy;41779223]Some people REALLY like it, while others (like me) get hardly any buzz from it, although I do get some decent pain relief. I've been rx'd it for like a year now I think, but yeah if I were to get rid of them the most I would charge is one buck ea. I also have to warn of the the very real dangers of SEIZURES from pushing your limits with this drug. Look on erowid and you'll see far too many tales of trips to the hospitals because of a seizure. If you try it, start with 2 or 3. If you take too much, even if you don't have a seizure, you'll be sweating your ass off and feeling very sick.[/QUOTE] i took 3 at my friends house before, it was perfect. after about an hour i felt like i was sinking into a cloud and didnt move for like an hour or 2 straight hahah
The most I ever took was 8 50mg ones I was pretty fucking chilled haha
Holy shit, and then Zach learned why Everyone loves MDMA fuck yea, I love everything, especially how a hot tub feels, but not sitting in one, just feeling the water. So with all this, any things I should prepare the comedown with, I don't have 5-htp, I took a multi vitamin this afternoon, maybe just eat some food, and drink some water?
[QUOTE=zach1193;41781082]Holy shit, and then Zach learned why Everyone loves MDMA fuck yea, I love everything, especially how a hot tub feels, but not sitting in one, just feeling the water. So with all this, any things I should prepare the comedown with, I don't have 5-htp, I took a multi vitamin this afternoon, maybe just eat some food, and drink some water?[/QUOTE] well, weed
[QUOTE=soupman345-2;41781262]well, weed[/QUOTE] Weed is and always will be obvious hahahaha
[QUOTE=xxxanax;41776912]Is tramadol worthwhile at all? I can get em generic a buck for a 50mg cap but people say it's a shitty drug and not similar to codeine at all[/QUOTE] Don't go above 400mg, 250 mg is probably a good start for someone new. I used to take them when I broke my collarbone, ofcourse my prescribed dose was between 100-200 mg, that is 1-4 pills when necessary over a day.
fuck next time I do MDMA solo i'm having a bath if I don't forget
[QUOTE=Consciousness;41784653]fuck next time I do MDMA solo i'm having a bath if I don't forget[/QUOTE] I wanted to take a shower last night, but I just never ended up doing it, probably would've been god status, I was overhyped about everything last night, but then again, that's what it does haha.
so i saw you guys talking about tramadol then realized i have some. i've got 10 50mg capsules, but i don't really know much about the recreational value itself. it says "zydol 50mg tramadol hydrochloride", but could anybody recommend a good dosage?
[QUOTE=TCB;41786910]so i saw you guys talking about tramadol then realized i have some. i've got 10 50mg capsules, but i don't really know much about the recreational value itself. it says "zydol 50mg tramadol hydrochloride", but could anybody recommend a good dosage?[/QUOTE] 2 or 3 to start with, you can try redosing if its not enough after maybe an hour or so
[QUOTE=TCB;41786910]so i saw you guys talking about tramadol then realized i have some. i've got 10 50mg capsules, but i don't really know much about the recreational value itself. it says "zydol 50mg tramadol hydrochloride", but could anybody recommend a good dosage?[/QUOTE] You don't know the recreational value but you're already planning doses? [url]http://www.erowid.org/pharms/tramadol/[/url]
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;41786944]You don't know the recreational value but you're already planning doses? [url]http://www.erowid.org/pharms/tramadol/[/url][/QUOTE] Haha, well I mean, how does one truly understand a drug's recreational potential until they try it.
[QUOTE=TCB;41786910]so i saw you guys talking about tramadol then realized i have some. i've got 10 50mg capsules, but i don't really know much about the recreational value itself. it says "zydol 50mg tramadol hydrochloride", but could anybody recommend a good dosage?[/QUOTE] 200 mg for a starter, next time maybe 250 or 300 but never ever go above 400
[QUOTE=zach1193;41786956]Haha, well I mean, how does one truly understand a drug's recreational potential until they try it.[/QUOTE] True but you shouldn't dose a drug before researching it, that's just irresponsible.
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;41786970]True but you shouldn't dose a drug before researching it, that's just irresponsible.[/QUOTE] Of course, although, just reading the previous posts, he should at least know it's a synthetic opiate. It's pretty shitty though, more for tripping on high doses, than using it like an opiate, although it does make you not give a fuck like one, and kinda happy. I've only taken low doses, so I'm just going off of what I've watched others do.
[QUOTE=SuperNatural;41786970]True but you shouldn't dose a drug before researching it, that's just irresponsible.[/QUOTE] that's exactly what i'm doing, i'm researching it [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=MrJazzy;41786968]200 mg for a starter, next time maybe 250 or 300 but never ever go above 400[/QUOTE] considering it's my first thing remotely close to an opioid, i'm thinking of just doing 150mg
Go with 150, that's the max recommendet dose that was prescribed to me as pain killers, and only over a time.
Ok so I'm planning on getting a bunch of kratom. Is it any good/worth the money? And also with what poppy seeds do I make poppy seed tea? I mean I wikipedia'd that shit and all but where do I go about buying any of it? Do they just sell it in the Home Depot gardening section or what
[QUOTE=iwork3daysaweek;41787523]Ok so I'm planning on getting a bunch of kratom. Is it any good/worth the money? And also with what poppy seeds do I make poppy seed tea? I mean I wikipedia'd that shit and all but where do I go about buying any of it? Do they just sell it in the Home Depot gardening section or what[/QUOTE] Kratom is good, but be sure you get it from a reliable source. I bought some from this shady guy on Silkroad, and it spilled all over my car when I opened the package. It also smells suspiciously similar to green tea, but there is definitely active material in it, even if it is adulterated. You have to find a poppy seed source that doesn't wash their seeds to intentionally remove the opiates. I heard that McCormick does wash theirs, so avoid them. Be extremely careful, as there is no way to tell how much morphine, codeine, etc. are in your tea, and it varies widely -- when trying a new batch, drink a small amount of your tea and wait an hour to see how you feel.
[QUOTE=AaronTAB;41788129]Kratom is good, but be sure you get it from a reliable source. I bought some from this shady guy on Silkroad, and it spilled all over my car when I opened the package. It also smells suspiciously similar to green tea, but there is definitely active material in it, even if it is adulterated. You have to find a poppy seed source that doesn't wash their seeds to intentionally remove the opiates. I heard that McCormick does wash theirs, so avoid them. Be extremely careful, as there is no way to tell how much morphine, codeine, etc. are in your tea, and it varies widely -- when trying a new batch, drink a small amount of your tea and wait an hour to see how you feel.[/QUOTE] is there a way to just extract the morphine manually so you actually know how much you have? [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] also would that morphine extract be smokable/vaporizable on foil like heroin?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41789638]is there a way to just extract the morphine manually so you actually know how much you have? [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] also would that morphine extract be smokable/vaporizable on foil like heroin?[/QUOTE] Not without lab equipment me thinks. I mean not everyone can just go synthesize some heroin. and you need morphine to make heroin so...
I'm driving around with almost a quarter, probably locking it in my trunk under the lift for the spare tire, does that seem reasonable? If not, where's the best place to hide it? It's in a stash jar, just wanna be fully protected. [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] Oh, and beer.
[QUOTE=jbthekid;41789765]I'm driving around with almost a quarter, probably locking it in my trunk under the lift for the spare tire, does that seem reasonable? If not, where's the best place to hide it? It's in a stash jar, just wanna be fully protected. [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] Oh, and beer.[/QUOTE] Lol it's only a quarter, that's two 8ths only, just keep it in the jar in the trunk like you said, keep the beer in the trunk too, but you don't need to hide that really. Ideally, just don't get pulled over!
[QUOTE=zach1193;41789693]Not without lab equipment me thinks. I mean not everyone can just go synthesize some heroin. and you need morphine to make heroin so...[/QUOTE] apparently: "1g dissolves in... 5000ml water, 1100ml boiling water, 210ml alcohol, 98ml boiling alcohol, 1220ml chloroform, 6250ml ether, 114ml amyl alcohol, 10ml boiling methanol, 525ml ethyl acetate, freely soluble in soln. of fixed alkali & alkaline earth hydroxides, in phenols, cresols; moderately soluble n mixtures of chloroform with alcohols; slightly soluble in ammonia, benzene" Merck Index, pg 898. " so if you use methanol to wash the seeds you should have a codeine/morphine mixture left over that you can evaporate the methanol off of and you should be able to freebase it if so desired(i don't like oral consumption of opiates, there is less control since it takes a longer time to feel effects). poppy seed tea rather scares me since you have very little knowledge of how much morphine is in the mixture. a swig of tea could leave you with no high, or it could have you blue in the face. with that sort of unpredictability it is almost just safer to buy stamps from your neighborhood drug dealer and throw that in your tea. [QUOTE=jbthekid;41789765]I'm driving around with almost a quarter, probably locking it in my trunk under the lift for the spare tire, does that seem reasonable? If not, where's the best place to hide it? It's in a stash jar, just wanna be fully protected. [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] Oh, and beer.[/QUOTE] nowhere? it doesn't matter where you hide it at all. if the police are going to search your car, they will find it no matter where you hide it unless you go tweaker status and build hidden compartments(then they will find it when they strip the car at impound). it's more important to hide the scent if the container is out of plain sight.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;41790138]apparently: "1g dissolves in... 5000ml water, 1100ml boiling water, 210ml alcohol, 98ml boiling alcohol, 1220ml chloroform, 6250ml ether, 114ml amyl alcohol, 10ml boiling methanol, 525ml ethyl acetate, freely soluble in soln. of fixed alkali & alkaline earth hydroxides, in phenols, cresols; moderately soluble n mixtures of chloroform with alcohols; slightly soluble in ammonia, benzene" Merck Index, pg 898. " so if you use methanol to wash the seeds you should have a codeine/morphine mixture left over that you can evaporate the methanol off of and you should be able to freebase it if so desired(i don't like oral consumption of opiates, there is less control since it takes a longer time to feel effects). poppy seed tea rather scares me since you have very little knowledge of how much morphine is in the mixture. a swig of tea could leave you with no high, or it could have you blue in the face. with that sort of unpredictability it is almost just safer to buy stamps from your neighborhood drug dealer and throw that in your tea. nowhere? it doesn't matter where you hide it at all. if the police are going to search your car, they will find it no matter where you hide it unless you go tweaker status and build hidden compartments(then they will find it when they strip the car at impound). it's more important to hide the scent if the container is out of plain sight.[/QUOTE] hmmm Well I said I "thought" it'd be difficult, so wait... like do people sell that? :v: I want to buy some pure opiates.
[QUOTE=zach1193;41790227]hmmm Well I said I "thought" it'd be difficult, so wait... like do people sell that? :v: I want to buy some pure opiates.[/QUOTE] also according to this you can extract what is essentially opium to smoke [url]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8227964/fpart/all/vc/1[/url] if you wanna buy "pure opiates" you are going to have most luck buying heroin. unfortunately, if you are buying heroin, it will be cut. if you buy morphine pills or opioid pills(oxycodone, hydrocodone), the pills have binders and often tylenol with them. you have to do a bit of chemistry stuff to separate your drug from the garbage. fortunately, this is generally pretty easy and often only takes a few hours to a day(mostly waiting for solvents to evaporate). you probably aren't going to find anything with any decent level of purity without actually cleaning it yourself. if you guys are going to use any drug recreationally, whether prescription or street, a little research should be put into how to purify your drug. it takes time and effort, but a pure drug is so much more fun than impure.
[QUOTE=zach1193;41790002]Lol it's only a quarter, that's two 8ths only, just keep it in the jar in the trunk like you said, keep the beer in the trunk too, but you don't need to hide that really. Ideally, just don't get pulled over![/QUOTE] I know it's not too much, I just want to be safe is all. I'm not a bad driver, so I don't see a reason why I would actually get pulled over. [editline]10th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=yawmwen;41790138]apparently: "1g dissolves in... 5000ml water, 1100ml boiling water, 210ml alcohol, 98ml boiling alcohol, 1220ml chloroform, 6250ml ether, 114ml amyl alcohol, 10ml boiling methanol, 525ml ethyl acetate, freely soluble in soln. of fixed alkali & alkaline earth hydroxides, in phenols, cresols; moderately soluble n mixtures of chloroform with alcohols; slightly soluble in ammonia, benzene" Merck Index, pg 898. " so if you use methanol to wash the seeds you should have a codeine/morphine mixture left over that you can evaporate the methanol off of and you should be able to freebase it if so desired(i don't like oral consumption of opiates, there is less control since it takes a longer time to feel effects). poppy seed tea rather scares me since you have very little knowledge of how much morphine is in the mixture. a swig of tea could leave you with no high, or it could have you blue in the face. with that sort of unpredictability it is almost just safer to buy stamps from your neighborhood drug dealer and throw that in your tea. nowhere? it doesn't matter where you hide it at all. if the police are going to search your car, they will find it no matter where you hide it unless you go tweaker status and build hidden compartments(then they will find it when they strip the car at impound). it's more important to hide the scent if the container is out of plain sight.[/QUOTE] I guess so, but they shouldn't have a reason to search it in the first place. I'll just drive safely.
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