• Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=Maucer;42119048]SWIM tried acid, got his mind shattered and eventually blown apart. He walked on the razors edge of both insanity and paradise. SWIM had so much to tell but not enough words. Woah.[/QUOTE] on what dosage?
[QUOTE=Maucer;42119048]SWIM tried acid, got his mind shattered and eventually blown apart. He walked on the razors edge of both insanity and paradise. SWIM had so much to tell but not enough words. Woah.[/QUOTE]you can drop the someone who is me stuff, we already know it's you telling the story
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42120365]you can drop the someone who is me stuff, we already know it's you telling the story[/QUOTE] and it does nothing to keep you safe legally. Some of the alternatives to SWIM are quite amusing though. Some examples from Drugs-Forum: [quote]This fat dude from, across the road can't type due to being so fat, so he shouted this at me, it is his fantasy about being on the drug. He also mentioned he'd done acid once before and this was his first of two experiences with this drug[/quote] [quote]I found an ancient tablet at the bottom of the ocean. Further inspection of the stone showed that the following message was written on it[/quote] olol.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;42121075]and it does nothing to keep you safe legally.[/QUOTE] Hey you guys, SWIM just smoked a bunch of crack and SWIM has dead bodies hidden underneath the floorboards.
creepy
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42119620]on what dosage?[/QUOTE] ~200mics+some green once in a while
opinions on taking microdots of lsd on a daily basis? [editline]8th September 2013[/editline] low dose of lsd, 2-5 mics
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42123701]opinions on taking microdots of lsd on a daily basis? [editline]8th September 2013[/editline] low dose of lsd, 2-5 mics[/QUOTE] Why?
as nootropic
that's not going to work also tolerance so
not true [editline]8th September 2013[/editline] [url]http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13791410[/url]
You're really dumb and naive. 2-5mcg of LSD is going to do fuck all to you, tolerance will slowly increase over time, and you're just wasting LSD. I don't know how you plan to dose that small anyway. It's a really terrible idea. That thread was talking about 1/5-1/4 of a strong tab. That's anywhere from 20-50mcg of LSD.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42124077][B]You're really dumb and naive. [/B]2-5mcg of LSD is going to do fuck all to you, tolerance will slowly increase over time, and you're just wasting LSD. I don't know how you plan to dose that small anyway. It's a really terrible idea. That thread was talking about 1/5-1/4 of a strong tab. That's anywhere from 20-50mcg of LSD.[/QUOTE] Was that really necessary? :/ How about just pointing out that 2-5µg is too low a dose even for subtle nootropic effects and skip the whole calling him dumb part for not having the same knowledge as you. But yeah tolerance increase will make it a very expensive habit in the long run (unless you know a chemist and/or get it at 60's prices). For a daily psychedelic nootropic I recommend you try (sub?)threshold doses of 2c's instead. They're much cheaper and don't have the rapid tolerance increase of acid.
I probably wouldn't have replied that way had he not retorted with "not true" and linked an old shroomery article where people talked about doing 20-50mcg doses of LSD. Most people in that thread also said that it was a waste and not a good idea, he just neglected to do some simple reasoning in his own brain and conclude the same thing.
Come on guys lets all just chill and be friends :D
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42123821]as nootropic[/QUOTE] I don't know much about LSD's efficacy as a nootropic but there are some non-psychedelics that you can take more easily which have proven nootropic effects such as Piracetam.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42124556]I probably wouldn't have replied that way had he not retorted with "not true" and linked an old shroomery article where people talked about doing 20-50mcg doses of LSD. Most people in that thread also said that it was a waste and not a good idea, he just neglected to do some simple reasoning in his own brain and conclude the same thing.[/QUOTE] The people who said it was a waste in that thread all seemed to have a "trip hard or go home"-mentality while scorpinat's goal is to specifically use it for nootropic purposes without any intention of becoming fucked up (I assume), in which case very low doses of LSD (or any psychedelic) will be satisfactory. As long as he doesn't plan on actually tripping from it but rather looks to exploit the subtle alteration of thought patterns/perception/creativity/etc gained from even a very minor psychedelic state of mind in ordinary day-to-day activities it's worth at least trying out.
[QUOTE=Mindtwistah;42124820]The people who said it was a waste in that thread all seemed to have a "trip hard or go home"-mentality while scorpinat's goal is to specifically use it for nootropic purposes without any intention of becoming fucked up (I assume), in which case very low doses of LSD (or any psychedelic) will be satisfactory. As long as he doesn't plan on actually tripping from it but rather looks to exploit the subtle alteration of thought patterns/perception/creativity/etc gained from even a very minor psychedelic state of mind in ordinary day-to-day activities it's worth at least trying out.[/QUOTE] It does seem a little bit like playing with some hot fire though.
[QUOTE=zach1193;42125204]It does seem a little bit like playing with some hot fire though.[/QUOTE] Agreed. While the chance of mental deterioration is much lessened when using sub-threshold doses there is certainly still risk involved, especially if you take it every day. Just wanted to make that clear before he decides on anything :v:
[QUOTE=barbershop;42112409]Shit shit shit guys I bought some kind of strange lemon haze variant and sealed it in 3 zip lock bags and a metal box. I came home today and my bedroom fucking reeks of lemons. I double checked the bags and everything but the smell wont stop crawling around the house and I convinced my parents it was new lemon incense. What the fuck do I do I'm going to have to bury it outside or something help me.[/QUOTE] Lol what the fuck weed are you buying dude haha.
[QUOTE=AppleJackson;42125945]Lol what the fuck weed are you buying dude haha.[/QUOTE] Ever hear of Chernobyl? It's the reason no one lives there anymore. Eventually it's going to eat its way through that mason jay he's hiding it in and its pungent fumes will permeate every cubic inch of his home. no joke
I've had some weed once that made my entire room smell that was triple bagged and in Tupperware container. It was dank as hell.
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42126527]I've had some weed once that made my entire room smell that was triple bagged and in Tupperware container. It was dank as hell.[/QUOTE] Yea my dealer's front hallway smells dank haha
[QUOTE=TehWhale;42124556]I probably wouldn't have replied that way had he not retorted with "not true" and linked an old shroomery article where people talked about doing 20-50mcg doses of LSD. Most people in that thread also said that it was a waste and not a good idea, he just neglected to do some simple reasoning in his own brain and conclude the same thing.[/QUOTE] Yeah, it was not the right link. I couldn't find the right one again. But was earlier reading on some people testing it out as nootropic. Small doses on daily basis, and people were describing it as an overall enhancer and as antidepressant. My ''not true'' might had been a bit to fast, because i have not tried low dosing myself on daily basis. Some of them were taking it daily for 3 months, and had almost no real tolerance. I know out of experience tolerance is a real thing if you have had a real dose. But i don't know how it would affect a person if you microdose it. (!and you also don't know it!) But i think it is an interesting discussion as i'm sure there are loads of uses to lsd(and other psychedelics) (RC drugs) we currently are not aware off. LSD basically is a cure for cluster migraine, and i am sure there is more to be found. It is important that we keep up critical thinking, not just putting it of as one thing. And one way to do it right By the way: we both don't know the facts about this subject, so calling me dumb or naive is highly unnecessary [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Mindtwistah;42124820]The people who said it was a waste in that thread all seemed to have a "trip hard or go home"-mentality while scorpinat's goal is to specifically use it for nootropic purposes without any intention of becoming fucked up (I assume), in which case very low doses of LSD (or any psychedelic) will be satisfactory. As long as he doesn't plan on actually tripping from it but rather looks to exploit the subtle alteration of thought patterns/perception/creativity/etc gained from even a very minor psychedelic state of mind in ordinary day-to-day activities it's worth at least trying out.[/QUOTE] Exactly ! Not going to do it before reading into it a bit more. but it is a really interesting subject if you ask me. A lot of people get a major anti depressant prescribed , that most of the time make you depressed. I am sure psychedelics could play a role. [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] there is always a risk taking drugs , any drug..Nootropic drugs but also weed (i've seen people using weed as Nootropic) [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] [url]http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/51969-low-dose-lsd-as-a-nootropic/[/url] here are some wise words from that topic: [QUOTE=]The two words I would use describe my experiences are profound and therapeutic. I had a sever bout of situational depression completely alleviated with in 10 hours. I shared an experience that, as a direct result, grew into one of my closest and dearest friendships. I always came out better then when I went in. Conversely, I have a friend that suffered traumatic emotional damage. In retrospect, and despite my fortunate results, it was foolish and I would sincerely caution against experimenting with any illegal substances. While I don't doubt there is a very real potential for healing, growth, and self improvement... at this time the only quality and safety measures are keeping you around to buy more. If LSD and psilocybin have a therapeutic future, it needs to be in a controlled clinical environment. In my opinion the effects do (perhaps loosely) fit the description of a cognitive enhancer, inconsistently producing increased creativity, hyperfocus, heightened awareness, stimulation, feelings of well being, and a laundry list of other interesting phenomena. [/QUOTE] [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] there are also people talking about using dmt as a Nootropic, if it works for them... sure, why the hell not [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] simply putting something off because you don't agree with it, or because you don't know the risks or benefits is simple thinking. I hope this has opened your mind a bit about this subject
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42130162] simply putting something off because you don't agree with it, or because you don't know the risks or benefits is simple thinking. I hope this has opened your mind a bit about this subject[/QUOTE] It's more like, let someone else be the lab rat instead of your own brain. Gotta look out for #1! Not insulting anyone here, but I'd find it more simple thinking to test something with your own brain with potentially negative effects, possibly permanent.
i understand how you think about it, but there is always a risk... everyone that takes some sort of drug is taking a risk, you don't have to take the risk if you don't want to. hell, even drinking coffee can set a catastrophic chemical unbalance in a small group of people [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] i can understand that there are people that think these thoughts are bat shit insane... but try to read about it, there is definitely a lot of potential [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] i am not yet prepared to take the test on myself, but i am sure that i will at least try it in the future
You're definitely going to experience tolerance build-up at small doses but it'll be relative to the dose. LSD is a very safe drug physically but I still wouldn't want to be taking it every day.
i don't think the tolerance would be a problem at low doses, as you will never be completely tolerant to the small effects that you are aiming for. Cross-tolerance on the other hand, could be a problem
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42130624]i understand how you think about it, but there is always a risk... everyone that takes some sort of drug is taking a risk, you don't have to take the risk if you don't want to. hell, even drinking coffee can set a catastrophic chemical unbalance in a small group of people [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] i can understand that there are people that think these thoughts are bat shit insane... but try to read about it, there is definitely a lot of potential [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] i am not yet prepared to take the test on myself, but i am sure that i will at least try it in the future[/QUOTE] I don't think it's insane, just personally I wouldn't experiment with using a psych daily. And if you're going to use the ideology taking drugs is a risk as in all drugs, anything you do can be considered taking a risk if you think hard enough. However, some activities present more probable risk than others as in you mentioned weed earlier, and sure it can effect a small group in an adverse way or something, but I'd like to think more people have had issues with LSD than weed as far as majority goes.
from my own experiences marijuana can really destroy a mind if you overdo it. not too keen to about explaining it, as it is rather a personal family thing. but trust me if i say marijuana can just as hard destroy your life as any other drugs. But if you REALLY would want a few of my personal experiences with it, you could send me a PM. [editline]9th September 2013[/editline] marijuana is a psychedelic
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