Drugs Discussion Questions Thread V "how many weed needles is too many?"
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[QUOTE=scorpinat;42130985]i don't think the tolerance would be a problem at low doses, as you will never be completely tolerant to the small effects that you are aiming for.
Cross-tolerance on the other hand, could be a problem[/QUOTE]
Try and imagine the brain as a large control system constantly striving for its own concept of equilibrium based on your genes and its neural network. If you agonise a receptor, the brain attempts to counteract this by down-regulating that receptor. It doesn't matter how little you agonise a receptor, it will still respond by down-regulating. So, even if you're taking 5mcg of LSD every day, your brain will respond to this surprisingly quickly and you will most certainly build a tolerance. It's not going to be that noticeable to you at that dose, but if there are nootropic effects to be had, they will likely diminish over the first few weeks.
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42131316]from my own experiences marijuana can really destroy a mind if you overdo it.
not too keen to about explaining it, as it is rather a personal family thing.
but trust me if i say marijuana can just as hard destroy your life as any other drugs.
But if you REALLY would want a few of my personal experiences with it, you could send me a PM.
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
marijuana is a psychedelic[/QUOTE]
But see now you've just proven that you have a bias by using someone close to you's negative experience.
I just don't see it that way though, with weed, I pretty much always have blame for the user if he or she is having issues with the drug, and unless you have an adverse reaction your first time, I don't see how weed is going to destroy your life (no need to explain) unless you waaaaay overuse and make some bad life choices along the way, or are too young, but that seems to be with most drugs. However with weed, you can use it everyday within moderation medicinally without detrimental effects and, not to say acid would, but out of the two, acid does a lot more to your mind than weed. I am speaking partially out of my ass, but surely acid does do more, yea?
But enough of comparing the two, weed isn't really a psych, whether you feel that way or not, and probably because you've done acid a bit, weed now feels more psychedelic, but you can't compare the two side by side. and I've already given my stance on taking very small amounts of cid each day.
i don't know about you, but weed changed a lot of my personality. a very smooth transition, but its there.
denying it has that power is just as dangerous.
and yes, perhaps i have a bias because i have seen it go wrong to many times, with friends and family.
'' oh its just soft drugs ''
not long ago my friend completely lost it, and put a knife on my other friends throat for no reason.
it was some sort of cannabis induced paranoia.
i'm not saying weed is a killer drug, but some people take it way to lightly.
[QUOTE=zach1193;42131591]But see now you've just proven that you have a bias by using someone close to you's negative experience.
I just don't see it that way though, with weed, I pretty much always have blame for the user if he or she is having issues with the drug, and unless you have an adverse reaction your first time, I don't see how weed is going to destroy your life (no need to explain) unless you waaaaay overuse and make some bad life choices along the way, or are too young, but that seems to be with most drugs. However with weed, you can use it everyday within moderation medicinally without detrimental effects and, not to say acid would, but out of the two, acid does a lot more to your mind than weed. I am speaking partially out of my ass, but surely acid does do more, yea?
But enough of comparing the two, weed isn't really a psych, whether you feel that way or not, and probably because you've done acid a bit, weed now feels more psychedelic, but you can't compare the two side by side. and I've already given my stance on taking very small amounts of cid each day.[/QUOTE]
LSD is definitely more damaging to your mental health than weed. Anyone who thinks otherwise is living in a fantasy world. I see scorpinat's point though. After a year of regular use I found I have become a more physically anxious person and don't smoke it all that much anymore. It's still very safe, but if used in excess it does have consequences, especially if you're young.
How can it make you anxious in the long run though? Not denying it I'm just wondering what the science behind it is, is it just your experience or are you putting ends together to support it?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42131832]How can it make you anxious in the long run though? Not denying it I'm just wondering what the science behind it is, is it just your experience or are you putting ends together to support it?[/QUOTE]
I don't think there's a consensus on the science behind it but it's a recognised phenomenon among chronic smokers on bluelight and drugs-forum. I never post stuff here based purely on my own experiences as people tend to be different. This isn't to say that you will get anxiety in the long-term, but it is definitely a possibility. I've always been a fairly anxious person so it has just magnified it rather than create the issue.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;42131903]I don't think there's a consensus on the science behind it but it's a recognised phenomenon among chronic smokers on bluelight and drugs-forum. I never post stuff here based purely on my own experiences as people tend to be different. This isn't to say that you will get anxiety in the long-term, but it is definitely a possibility. I've always been a fairly anxious person so it has just magnified it rather than create the issue.[/QUOTE]
it is not an uncommon phenomenon. i have felt a subtle change, and i see it in friends and family.
also have a few friends who claim they cant sleep well without toking before sleep.
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cannabis is awesome, but we have to stop claiming it is just soft drugs without any dangers
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
only thing i wonder about, would that change be undone if you sober up for a few months?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;42131832]How can it make you anxious in the long run though? Not denying it I'm just wondering what the science behind it is, is it just your experience or are you putting ends together to support it?[/QUOTE]
I can't really smoke sativa anymore. It makes me jittery and nervous.
Also I don't see a lot of people claiming it's just a soft drug without any dangers, I also have to say; you have to take in consideration that it may not be the weed that's changing you but your own reaction to it; yeah the anxiety after a while and everything is very real, but to be frank I know a lot of people with motivation, people who sleep better without it, people who never could really sleep at all who need it.
If anyone is claiming marijuana is super safe, I'm not seeing it; and [I]dude[/I] come ON. It's obvious to assume anything you do changes your habits and behavior, it's something that gets ingrained in your daily routine if [I]YOU[/I] make it so.
People change over time and correlation is not always causation; you might just be changing and the only reason you notice it is because you smoke?
Mainly it takes a responsible person to smoke, just like it takes a responsible person to drink. If you don't think you're responsible enough to smoke all the time then just don't and keep it to every once and a while.
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42131718]i don't know about you, but weed changed a lot of my personality. a very smooth transition, but its there.
denying it has that power is just as dangerous.
and yes, perhaps i have a bias because i have seen it go wrong to many times, with friends and family.
'' oh its just soft drugs ''
not long ago my friend completely lost it, and put a knife on my other friends throat for no reason.
it was some sort of cannabis induced paranoia.
i'm not saying weed is a killer drug, but some people take it way to lightly.[/QUOTE]
sounds like your friend's just crazy.
[QUOTE=soupman345-2;42132735]sounds like your friend's just crazy.[/QUOTE]
yeah, if you put a knife at your friends throat you are crazy. But what triggered his crazy?
Nobody does that shit for fun. i spoke to him after he got released from interrogation (as of course called the cops) , and he was just really scared all of the sudden, felt as if his life was threatened.
but he was sure it was not something we said. he'd been heavily smoking weed all day (he has been smoking for years) but something snapped in his mind.
something triggered it, if it can happen to him it could happen to everyone
if I put my filthy grinder in a pot filled with milk and let it warm a bit, can I get a high out of it?
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42132830]yeah, if you put a knife at your friends throat you are crazy. But what triggered his crazy?
Nobody does that shit for fun. i spoke to him after he got released from interrogation (as of course called the cops) , and he was just really scared all of the sudden, felt as if his life was threatened.
but he was sure it was not something we said. he'd been heavily smoking weed all day (he has been smoking for years) but something snapped in his mind.
something triggered it, if it can happen to him it could happen to everyone[/QUOTE]
Marijuana [I]could[/I] have triggered it; but then again you still have no real point, because in situations like that where someone could crack [I]anything[/I] could have triggered it because those sort of mental issues are things buried deep, they're already there.
[B]IT CANNOT HAPPEN TO EVERYONE AS NOT EVERYONE HAS A BURIED PREDILECTION TO PSYCHOTIC BEHAVIOR[/B]
Like, you [I]are[/I] correct in some areas but in others you're talking right out of your arse mate.
it spooked us, you don't expect it from someone you have known for years. and i genuinely believe he couldn't help it
no reason to get hostile
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42132956]it spooked us, you don't expect it from someone you have known for years. and i genuinely believe he couldn't help it
no reason to get hostile[/QUOTE]
I think you're a bit too high yourself. Bold and caps is for emphasis, not for emotional context. Pfft, yes I am pissy and hostile over something so dumb, thanks for insulting me (hint: I'm [I]not[/I] pissy or hostile, nor am I insulted; I'm sorry my style of writing doesn't tailor itself to your gentle attitude).
what are you doing
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42132985]what are you doing[/QUOTE]
Babysitting a dog, why do you ask?
stay classy Lebowski
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42131935]it is not an uncommon phenomenon. i have felt a subtle change, and i see it in friends and family.
also have a few friends who claim they cant sleep well without toking before sleep.
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
cannabis is awesome, but we have to stop claiming it is just soft drugs without any dangers
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
only thing i wonder about, would that change be undone if you sober up for a few months?[/QUOTE]
It certainly hasn't changed for me and I rarely smoke these days. If I toke up with a reasonably strong joint now it will make me feel pretty anxious without a doubt. It seems to be a permanent thing.
Also, I'd still consider weed a soft drug. There are very few drugs you can ingest from morning to evening without serious danger.
um quick question on come downs
on friday night i mixed mdma and speed ( as well as drinking and smoking bud ), stayed up and saturday night did mushrooms and speed, i slept that night and felt a bit shitty on sunday. Now im back at college and dont really feel hungover just well depressed and it's distracting me. i've heard that come downs can sometimes take a while to kick in but is this normal?
[QUOTE=lemoncurry;42134440]um quick question on come downs
on friday night i mixed mdma and speed ( as well as drinking and smoking bud ), stayed up and saturday night did mushrooms and speed, i slept that night and felt a bit shitty on sunday. Now im back at college and dont really feel hungover just well depressed and it's distracting me. i've heard that come downs can sometimes take a while to kick in but is this normal?[/QUOTE]
yes
[QUOTE=lemoncurry;42134440]um quick question on come downs
on friday night i mixed mdma and speed ( as well as drinking and smoking bud ), stayed up and saturday night did mushrooms and speed, i slept that night and felt a bit shitty on sunday. Now im back at college and dont really feel hungover just well depressed and it's distracting me. i've heard that come downs can sometimes take a while to kick in but is this normal?[/QUOTE]
Yea, and you did a bunch of shit, from just hydros (and speed the last night I did them) I still have a bit of a comedown I'm dealing with. Just a bit more down than usual and shitty feels, working seemed to keep my mind busy though, so thank god I can keep busy.
[editline]9th September 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=scorpinat;42133041]stay classy Lebowski[/QUOTE]
Lebowski for president 2016 :v:
I'm not sure when this started happening, when ever I smoke weed I start getting really itchy. The only thing it has happened with as well is shrooms. However it goes away completely if I'm on a stimulant.
Any idea what could be causing this?
My roommate is going to get me some Salvia tomorrow. I probably wont try it until around the weekend, but what should I expect when taking it? I don't want to freak out, and I hear that happens a lot, so does anyone know of any good methods that'll keep me calm through the trip?
[QUOTE=GhostProject;42138954]My roommate is going to get me some Salvia tomorrow. I probably wont try it until around the weekend, but what should I expect when taking it? I don't want to freak out, and I hear that happens a lot, so does anyone know of any good methods that'll keep me calm through the trip?[/QUOTE]
lol
expect hell
[QUOTE=GhostProject;42139030]thats pretty helpful thanks :^)[/QUOTE]
Well I can't help you much without knowing the strength of what you're going to use.
Also there's not much helping anything when you lose your mind on salvia, because you do lose your mind every time; just not exactly bad every time. You don't have much way in motor functions or logical reasoning skills to help you out.
You also need someone to take the bong/pipe from you after you hit it so you don't break it.
[QUOTE=Lebowski;42139046]Well I can't help you much without knowing the strength of what you're going to use.
Also there's not much helping anything when you lose your mind on salvia, because you do lose your mind every time; just not exactly bad every time. You don't have much way in motor functions or logical reasoning skills to help you out.
You also need someone to take the bong/pipe from you after you hit it so you don't break it.[/QUOTE]
Yeah my roomie was going to babysit me while I did it. He also talked about getting a very light strand for me.
[QUOTE=GhostProject;42139066]Yeah my roomie was going to babysit me while I did it. He also talked about getting a very light strand for me.[/QUOTE]
If it's light it could actually be pleasant, if a bit weird; but otherwise I'd just say on strong stuff prepare for the worst. Put on some soft music you like, be in a safe place with a sitter. That's just about what you can do.
[QUOTE=GhostProject;42139066]Yeah my roomie was going to babysit me while I did it. He also talked about getting a very light strand for me.[/QUOTE]There's no such thing as a light "strand"
The term would be strain if there was such a thing as strains of Salvia. Just get some 10-20x extract and rip that in a bong with a torch lighter and hold the hit as long as possible.
[QUOTE=lemoncurry;42134440]um quick question on come downs
on friday night i mixed mdma and speed ( as well as drinking and smoking bud ), stayed up and saturday night did mushrooms and speed, i slept that night and felt a bit shitty on sunday. Now im back at college and dont really feel hungover just well depressed and it's distracting me. i've heard that come downs can sometimes take a while to kick in but is this normal?[/QUOTE]
yea, snorted loads of speed in summer, i didnt felt shit , but i just didnt have motivation to do anything, i just like watched breaking bad for 15 hours straight
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