The Official Questions Thread Version: "Charlies in the trees, what do I need to get rid of them?" - General

[QUOTE=TerrorShield;45351254]How is the CYMA MP5K PDW compared to the Galaxy? The metal body worth getting it? Seems like they're both pretty much the same. [editline]10th July 2014[/editline] Reading reviews, it seems to be as good if not better than the Galaxy. Metal V3 gearbox and everything.[/QUOTE] Its worse than the Galaxy. Not that its bad, but the Galaxy is simply a magical gun. Also, they both have metal V3 gearboxes, not sure why you'd be surprised about that.

[QUOTE=notrabies;45351402]Its worse than the Galaxy. Not that its bad, but the Galaxy is simply a magical gun. Also, they both have metal V3 gearboxes, not sure why you'd be surprised about that.[/QUOTE]Meant that they're both good in having V3 gearboxes, poor wording on my behalf. I think I'll just get the Galaxy anyways, the plastic body seems durable enough and I can use the price difference in upgrades or whatever.

[QUOTE=TerrorShield;45351475]Meant that they're both good in having V3 gearboxes, poor wording on my behalf. I think I'll just get the Galaxy anyways, the plastic body seems durable enough and I can use the price difference in upgrades or whatever.[/QUOTE] Upgrade list (save it so I don't have to retype it for the thousandth time): G&P stock bucking (or bucking of your choice) Shredder's Concave Spacer (or other [B]concave[/B] spacer) 0.30g bb's (0.28g at the absolute minimum) 11.1v lipo (if you actually want it to fit inside the gun you'll need to find a circular one, otherwise tape) Replacement rear sling point (the stock one [B]will[/B] break) One point bungie sling King Arms midcap magazines Be careful of the rear of the receiver, it will crack if you're not careful with it, but while all of mine have cracked none have fully broken.

Thanks! [QUOTE=notrabies;45351592] 11.1v lipo (if you actually want it to fit inside the gun you'll need to find a circular one, otherwise tape)[/QUOTE]Do they even make circular lipos? I've only ever seen rectangular ones. I'd like to have my battery inside. Does the rear receiver crack affect the foldability of the stock or anything? Or is it just purely cosmetic?

[QUOTE=TerrorShield;45351667]Thanks! Do they even make circular lipos? I've only ever seen rectangular ones. I'd like to have my battery inside. Does the rear receiver crack affect the foldability of the stock or anything? Or is it just purely cosmetic?[/QUOTE] Circular lipos exist, although they're generally airsoft lipos and cost more as a result. [url]http://www.evike.com/products/38225/[/url] [url]http://www.evike.com/products/30760/[/url] The rear plate that you pull out to insert the battery is held on by pins in the rear of the receiver, so serious damage could block you from fitting the pins in, which would cause the rear plate to need tape to stay on. The rear plate holds the stock on the PDW as well. However, I would recommend the K over the PDW, I've owned both and see no benefit to the PDW. Since you're running a compact gun you should be pretty dang lightweight and agile, and the heavy stock is more of a nuisance than you might expect, and aiming without a stock is very easy when there's no recoil to worry about. More importantly since the stock is heavy, you run the risk of damaging the rear receiver with its weight, both in regular usage and with accidents. Someone borrowed my PDW and tripped, with the gun landing on its stock from only a few feet above the ground, but the whole back of the receiver cracked off unfixably. Also, the MP5K has a better front end than the PDW.

Wasn't there a 6.03 TBB you recommended for the MP5K? If so, what length was it?

Prommy ASH 6.05 IIRC

[QUOTE=notrabies;45351889]Circular lipos exist, although they're generally airsoft lipos and cost more as a result. [url]http://www.evike.com/products/38225/[/url] [url]http://www.evike.com/products/30760/[/url] The rear plate that you pull out to insert the battery is held on by pins in the rear of the receiver, so serious damage could block you from fitting the pins in, which would cause the rear plate to need tape to stay on. The rear plate holds the stock on the PDW as well. However, I would recommend the K over the PDW, I've owned both and see no benefit to the PDW. Since you're running a compact gun you should be pretty dang lightweight and agile, and the heavy stock is more of a nuisance than you might expect, and aiming without a stock is very easy when there's no recoil to worry about. More importantly since the stock is heavy, you run the risk of damaging the rear receiver with its weight, both in regular usage and with accidents. Someone borrowed my PDW and tripped, with the gun landing on its stock from only a few feet above the ground, but the whole back of the receiver cracked off unfixably. Also, the MP5K has a better front end than the PDW.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately the local shop I'm getting it from only has the PDW. Also, I really want to put an UMP stock on it, I just love the aesthetic and I know they make them for MP5s somewhere. Would the rear receiver pin thing pose a problem? Can you even attach other stocks? [editline]10th July 2014[/editline] I basically want to make this: (rough throw-together, excuse the alignment errors) [img]http://i.imgur.com/b9jxNMz.png[/img] Possible?

[QUOTE=theryan11;45351157]is a ciras supposed to crumple at the back?[/QUOTE] Actually as I recall, CIRAS's do have a bit of an issue with weird backs, even with plates in. I've heard even the RS ones are kinda weird like that. My ACM CIRAS certainly had that issue. Plates will probably make it a little better though.

Anyone know if this ZCI hop up chamber is any good? [url]http://www.clandestineairsoft.com/hopup-units-c-1_41_53/zci-metal-hopup-unit-p-435.html[/url]

[QUOTE=TerrorShield;45352019]Unfortunately the local shop I'm getting it from only has the PDW. Also, I really want to put an UMP stock on it, I just love the aesthetic and I know they make them for MP5s somewhere. Would the rear receiver pin thing pose a problem? Can you even attach other stocks? [editline]10th July 2014[/editline] I basically want to make this: (rough throw-together, excuse the alignment errors) [img]http://i.imgur.com/b9jxNMz.png[/img] Possible?[/QUOTE] You'd have to do some modding to the body to be able to fit those kinds of stocks on there, but its doable

[QUOTE=TerrorShield;45350076]I recall watching a video of a guy running some P90 hooked up to a car battery. Lasted surprisingly long too.[/QUOTE] Car batteries are 12V nominal. Being big lead-acid cells gives them very high maximum discharge rates, but the actual amount of power a car battery will send to an airsoft gun is really no more than that of an 11.1 lipo. Not much of a torture test, to be honest, but I guess with a crappy LPEG an 11.1 is likely to induce rapid failure.

[QUOTE=TehG3A3;45351944]Wasn't there a 6.03 TBB you recommended for the MP5K? If so, what length was it?[/QUOTE] Whoops, forgot that bit, its 110mm and Herf was correct on the type. [QUOTE=Herfjotur;45351952]Prommy ASH 6.05 [/QUOTE] I got mine from Redwolf and it was pretty cheap and has held up well. [QUOTE=TerrorShield;45352019]Unfortunately the local shop I'm getting it from only has the PDW. Also, I really want to put an UMP stock on it, I just love the aesthetic and I know they make them for MP5s somewhere. Would the rear receiver pin thing pose a problem? Can you even attach other stocks? [editline]10th July 2014[/editline] I basically want to make this: (rough throw-together, excuse the alignment errors) [img]http://i.imgur.com/b9jxNMz.png[/img] Possible?[/QUOTE] If that's what you want, don't buy an MP5K/PDW. All you'd be doing is taking a gun that's designed to be very light and compact and making it longer and heavier than a regular MP5, and that's ridiculous. Just get one of the existing MP5's with the UMP stock and then either ghettorig a K foregrip or just use a regular railed grip. Alternatively, MP5's with flashlight handguards are always extremely cool.

i think it's because he wants the MP5K magic

The thing is there are no good MP5s with the UMP stock already on it. After hearing how great the Galaxy MP5k PDW is, I'd like to try it for myself but I also want it to look the way I think is cool. It doesn't really matter much to me if the end result is longer and heavier than what it's "supposed to be". Having a gun that is both aesthetically pleasing as well as well performing is kinda nice to have right?

[QUOTE=the_killer24;45354529]i think it's because he wants the MP5K magic[/QUOTE] I feel like the PDW probably wouldn't like the suppressor, unless you get some weird one specifically designed to fit on the tri-lug flashhider, and even then I'm not sure if it would affect performance or not. Also, since he was weighing the Galaxy against the CYMA, and couldn't get behind a JG G36 because of the lack of rails, I figured he was more in it for the looks.

the pdw comes threaded at the front of the trilug so the lugs won't affect his mounting capability though it won't be flush so terror if you wanna do that might wanna get an aftermarket thread

[QUOTE=notrabies;45354606]I feel like the PDW probably wouldn't like the suppressor, unless you get some weird one specifically designed to fit on the tri-lug flashhider, and even then I'm not sure if it would affect performance or not. Also, since he was weighing the Galaxy against the CYMA, and couldn't get behind a JG G36 because of the lack of rails, I figured he was more in it for the looks.[/QUOTE]Cmon notrabies I think you're cool why do I get the feeling you think I'm an idiot or something. Yeah you know a lot more about airsoft than I do, but this isn't the first time you've brought up the point that I got a RIS system for my G36. It's not like I can't own a gun without rails on it? I specifically want the MP5K because it doesn't have the disgusting MP5 RIS that just about every "tactical" MP5 has. I don't know why you're getting this "I can't get behind a JG G36 because of the lack of rails" attitude about me. My favorite gun was my SOC16 which has even less rails, so can you please drop it already? I'm sorry I don't like arguing. [editline]10th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=the_killer24;45354623]the pdw comes threaded at the front of the trilug so the lugs won't affect his mounting capability though it won't be flush so terror if you wanna do that might wanna get an aftermarket thread[/QUOTE]Thanks, didn't know that about the PDW. Is this what I'm looking for? [url]http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Barrel_Thread_Adapters_King_Arms_Silencer_Adapter_for_Marui_MP5K_PDW_14mm_Inner_CW_thread_to_14mm_Outer_CCW_thread.htm[/url] [editline]10th July 2014[/editline] I also found MP5 UMP stocks but apparently none of them work on MP5K/PDW and none have good pictures/detail of how its mounted. [url]http://www.zairsoft.com/servlet/the-1295/Echo-1-Airsoft-MP5/Detail[/url] [url]http://www.evike.com/products/31757/[/url] Also this super sketchy site where like everything is 1 usd: [url]http://airsoftgogo.com/en/product/product/565[/url]

[QUOTE=TerrorShield;45354591]The thing is there are no good MP5s with the UMP stock already on it.[/QUOTE] [url]http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-g-taiwan/g-g-tgm-a5-airsoft-aeg.html#.U79t2bGN4TA[/url] CYMA has cloned this if you're looking for a cheaper alternative: [url]http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/cyma-mp5-w-ump-stock-metal-electric-blow-back-aeg-cm-049-1.html#.U79tjbGN4TA[/url] [QUOTE]After hearing how great the Galaxy MP5k PDW is, I'd like to try it for myself but I also want it to look the way I think is cool. It doesn't really matter much to me if the end result is longer and heavier than what it's "supposed to be". Having a gun that is both aesthetically pleasing as well as well performing is kinda nice to have right?[/QUOTE] Its kind of hard to explain, but part of the magic of the MP5K is that its doing all that it does while being so small and cheap. Its entirely usable as a backup or secondary weapon, but is fully capable of being a good primary weapon. However, when you make it long and heavy enough that its acting as a primary weapon, its competing with other platforms in that role that are expected to already have similar performance. The MP5K doesn't get worse, but its competition becomes a lot better. Also worth mentioning is that even with upgrades, the MP5K's aren't that accurate. They're more like machine guns in that they shoot a tremendous distance, but form a funnel of fire instead of a laser. I put a RDS on mine as a test but found that it was simply better with it off. Hell, I never even reattached the rear sight on mine after I removed it to use as an underbarrel, the guns simply work best with a sort of spray and pray mentality. This mentality is also the main reason you want it so light. Shooting at range from a normal point doesn't work too well, especially compared to a more accurate rifle, so you have to adopt Somali/guerrila/hit-and-run tactics. If you can't move with speed and surprise you become a lot less useful, and while that's one of my main views for all of airsoft, it applies double for these weapons. [QUOTE=the_killer24;45354623]the pdw comes threaded at the front of the trilug so the lugs won't affect his mounting capability though it won't be flush so terror if you wanna do that might wanna get an aftermarket thread[/QUOTE] I've had trouble using those threads because of the paint on them being too thick, if this is what you want to do be prepared to strip the paint. Alternatively, I know there's a part that fits onto the K and/or PDW that replaces the stock flashhider with a standard screw on point. [QUOTE=TerrorShield;45354652]Cmon notrabies I think you're cool why do I get the feeling you think I'm an idiot or something. Yeah you know a lot more about airsoft than I do, but this isn't the first time you've brought up the point that I got a RIS system for my G36. It's not like I can't own a gun without rails on it? I specifically want the MP5K because it doesn't have the disgusting MP5 RIS that just about every "tactical" MP5 has. I don't know why you're getting this "I can't get behind a JG G36 because of the lack of rails" attitude about me. My favorite gun was my SOC16 which has even less rails, so can you please drop it already? I'm sorry I don't like arguing.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be giving out all this advice if I thought I was wasting my time with an idiot. From what I've seen, you like tactical firearms and loadouts, and it seems odd that you want to take a weapon that's basically the opposite end of the spectrum and spend a bunch of work into making it something its not. Let me also point out that you're basically building the "Notrabies Special" on the inside, and then doing the exact opposite of everything I would recommend on the outside. Its obviously not your intent or anything, but there's no way I'm going to be happy about this. And considering my way of running these is based on performance and tactics as opposed to looks, I can't help but value my opinion as higher than yours, although you are in no way obligated to draw the same conclusion. ALSO, unrelated but everyone look what I found [url]http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-g-taiwan/g-g-gss-aeg.html#.U79t0LGN4TA[/url] Still looks just as shitty as the prototypes but at least it exists I guess. [editline]11th July 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=TerrorShield;45354652] Thanks, didn't know that about the PDW. Is this what I'm looking for? [url]http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Barrel_Thread_Adapters_King_Arms_Silencer_Adapter_for_Marui_MP5K_PDW_14mm_Inner_CW_thread_to_14mm_Outer_CCW_thread.htm[/url][/QUOTE] Yeah that's the part you need if you want your silencer as flush as possible. [QUOTE]I also found MP5 UMP stocks but apparently none of them work on MP5K/PDW and none have good pictures/detail of how its mounted. [url]http://www.zairsoft.com/servlet/the-1295/Echo-1-Airsoft-MP5/Detail[/url] [url]http://www.evike.com/products/31757/[/url] Also this super sketchy site where like everything is 1 usd: [url]http://airsoftgogo.com/en/product/product/565[/url][/QUOTE] Those UMP stocks fit onto an MP5 the same way as any other normal MP5 stock, you just remove the pin(s) and fit the stock on. For the MP5K/PDW's, you will need to do an entirely custom job of fitting it into the rear plate, or fitting it over. For the PDW's you can just remove the stock from the rear plate and end up with the same back as the MP5K, but you'd still need to remove the plastic on the receiver that blocks the fullsize stocks from fitting on.

[QUOTE=notrabies;45354942] ALSO, unrelated but everyone look what I found [url]http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-g-taiwan/g-g-gss-aeg.html#.U79t0LGN4TA[/url] Still looks just as shitty as the prototypes but at least it exists I guess. [/QUOTE] Oh god the box it's the worst female KGB spy stereotype I have ever seen.

[QUOTE=notrabies;45354942][url]http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-g-taiwan/g-g-tgm-a5-airsoft-aeg.html#.U79t2bGN4TA[/url] CYMA has cloned this if you're looking for a cheaper alternative: [url]http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/cyma-mp5-w-ump-stock-metal-electric-blow-back-aeg-cm-049-1.html#.U79tjbGN4TA[/url][/QUOTE]Yeah I saw those, that was the point I made about the MP5 RIS. I think they're really ugly and throw off the balance and aesthetic of the gun unlike the MP5K foregrip. [quote]I wouldn't be giving out all this advice if I thought I was wasting my time with an idiot. From what I've seen, you like tactical firearms and loadouts, and it seems odd that you want to take a weapon that's basically the opposite end of the spectrum and spend a bunch of work into making it something its not. Let me also point out that you're basically building the "Notrabies Special" on the inside, and then doing the exact opposite of everything I would recommend on the outside. Its obviously not your intent or anything, but there's no way I'm going to be happy about this. And considering my way of running these is based on performance and tactics as opposed to looks, I can't help but value my opinion as higher than yours, although you are in no way obligated to draw the same conclusion. [/quote] I totally understand what you mean and I respect that. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions. I get what you're saying about me wanting to make the opposite of an MP5K PDW on the outside, and I realize that what I want to do is kinda weird from that perspective. Thanks for the advice I'm glad we could come to a resolution.

[QUOTE=TerrorShield;45355035]Yeah I saw those, that was the point I made about the MP5 RIS. I think they're really ugly and throw off the balance and aesthetic of the gun unlike the MP5K foregrip.[/QUOTE] Keep in mind that as far as I can tell they'd fit standard MP5 grips, and while its a bit of a custom job you can make an MP5K or SP89 grip fit on as well. Assuming you don't want a foregrip, the flashlight foregrip is still the coolest thing you can put on an MP5. [QUOTE]I totally understand what you mean and I respect that. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions. I get what you're saying about me wanting to make the opposite of an MP5K PDW on the outside, and I realize that what I want to do is kinda weird from that perspective. Thanks for the advice I'm glad we could come to a resolution.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure I'd call it a resolution, I still consider this project to be a horrible abomination that should be burned, trash-compacted, burned again, and then shit upon, but I am also fully aware that I have no control over its existence so I might as well help make it suck as little as possible.

[QUOTE=notrabies;45355112]Keep in mind that as far as I can tell they'd fit standard MP5 grips, and while its a bit of a custom job you can make an MP5K or SP89 grip fit on as well. Assuming you don't want a foregrip, the flashlight foregrip is still the coolest thing you can put on an MP5. I'm not sure I'd call it a resolution, I still consider this project to be a horrible abomination that should be burned, trash-compacted, burned again, and then shit upon, but I am also fully aware that I have no control over its existence so I might as well help make it suck as little as possible.[/QUOTE] Our resolution is agreeing to disagree, even somewhat drastically lol. But yeah what you're doing helps me anyways and that's cool in my book. I actually think I'm just going to focus on the internals before the externals now that we've been talking about it, just to get the feel of a "proper" PDW before I go and horrifically disfigure it. Who knows maybe I'll feel the same afterwards.

Is there any stateside dealers of LCT or Realsword?

fox airsoft

I asked earlier about a good starting pistol and get the nice recommendation of the TM 4.3 Hi-Capa. I just wanted to ask this to double check, wouldn't the 5.1 version be a better choice? The small bit of reading I did into them (aka google TM 4.3 vs 5.1) and a lot of people are saying get the 5.1 because of a number of reasons you lot most likely already know. So I just wanted to ask your opinions on the matter. Also it's slightly cheaper than the 4.3 but only by a small amount. Thanks in advance.

Rabies and terror just had a disagreement that didn't get butthurt and personal. You civilized motherfuckers kudos to both of you.

brb checking hell to make sure there's no ice

Is the HTS-14 Groza by Hephaestus any good? It's such a sexy rifle and a GBB too.

If memory serves it's based on GHK's system, which is apparently pretty good as far as gas-in-mag GBBRs go.