The Official Questions Thread Version: "Charlies in the trees, what do I need to get rid of them?"
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[QUOTE=Herfjotur;45568032]And also, never buy condor and the like. There is generally always a real product that will do the same job at a lower price, and look better too.[/QUOTE]
This. Please educate yourself in real gear first, that way it makes it much easier to differentiate between what's good repro/china gear, and where to find real gear for cheap.
Also; a random fact about gear in general- higher denier fabric (330d, 500d/550d, 1000d) is [I]NOT[/I] better. It's heavier weight and it will make your gear unnecessarily heavy and thick. Crye gear is mostly 330d. It's all about stitching.
I think some of the US gear heads in this forum will be more than happy to help you if you want to educate yourself just for the sake of educating or if you want to make some purchases. My rig (Paraclete RACK) ran probably about $200 and it's the gear Delta/CAG/ACE used for many years.
As far as what you picked, ditch the Condor and the helmet. Never (in my opinion) get a FAST unless it's a ballistic model without the holes.
Gun stuff: Madbull buckings are shit. Most of FPAir agrees G&G Green Buckings are the best. The EOTech can be found cheaper, and that charger is overpriced for what it is.
[QUOTE=Kath;45568938]This. Please educate yourself in real gear first, that way it makes it much easier to differentiate between what's good repro/china gear, and where to find real gear for cheap.
Also; a random fact about gear in general- higher denier fabric (330d, 500d/550d, 1000d) is [I]NOT[/I] better. It's heavier weight and it will make your gear unnecessarily heavy and thick. Crye gear is mostly 330d. It's all about stitching.
I think some of the US gear heads in this forum will be more than happy to help you if you want to educate yourself just for the sake of educating or if you want to make some purchases. My rig (Paraclete RACK) ran probably about $200 and it's the gear Delta/CAG/ACE used for many years.
As far as what you picked, ditch the Condor and the helmet. Never (in my opinion) get a FAST unless it's a ballistic model without the holes.
Gun stuff: Madbull buckings are shit. Most of FPAir agrees G&G Green Buckings are the best. The EOTech can be found cheaper, and that charger is overpriced for what it is.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to candian markup price im buying everything i can off of nearby canadian retailers because it will be a hell of alot more expensive to pay for customs and shipping from multiple stores EDIT: When i say everything i can i mean that everything cheaper is out of stock
dont get the helmet with the visor, the pad system is a piece of shit.
Also dont get m81 unless you want it.
I get most of my gear from aliexpress, shipping is free most of the time. has better stuff most of the time too. not just conderp
m81 is such a great camo.
[QUOTE=3bwii;45569014]Welcome to candian markup price im buying everything i can off of nearby canadian retailers because it will be a hell of alot more expensive to pay for customs and shipping from multiple stores EDIT: When i say everything i can i mean that everything cheaper is out of stock[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. I don't know what gear makes it into Canada, but try looking for surplus Canadian gear
[QUOTE=Kath;45569187]Fair enough. I don't know what gear makes it into Canada, but try looking for surplus Canadian gear[/QUOTE]
I cant get into surplus stores and all the online surplus stores ive looked at are basically all the same thing id kill for them to have matrix stuff :v:
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[QUOTE=theryan11;45569141]dont get the helmet with the visor, the pad system is a piece of shit.
Also dont get m81 unless you want it.
I get most of my gear from aliexpress, shipping is free most of the time. has better stuff most of the time too. not just conderp[/QUOTE]
Im only getting the camo for the sake of having camo plus i have to shop in the "kids and infant section" due to my tiny frame so i cant get any sooper srs bbwarz opr8or camo
[QUOTE=Heldure;45569146]m81 is such a great camo.[/QUOTE]
It is, but im having this problem with my friends where they immidiately get m81 but then they change their mind after playing a couple games and they either wanna get sooper op3r4t0r or do something else and then they never use m81 again. I love my m81 pants though
[QUOTE=theryan11;45569405]It is, but im having this problem with my friends where they immidiately get m81 but then they change their mind after playing a couple games and they either wanna get sooper op3r4t0r or do something else and then they never use m81 again. I love my m81 pants though[/QUOTE]
The problem for me is i can either buy m81 or acu and seeing as the field is a wooded area i have to use m81
[QUOTE=3bwii;45569303]I cant get into surplus stores and all the online surplus stores ive looked at are basically all the same thing[B] id kill for them to have matrix stuff[/B] :v:[/QUOTE]
What?
[QUOTE=Apache249;45569588]What?[/QUOTE]
Sorry i think i meant lancer tactical anyways basically i just wish that stores would stock cheap vests with built-in m4 mag pouches and stuff (actually i wish they would stock something period)
[QUOTE=3bwii;45569303]I cant get into surplus stores and all the online surplus stores ive looked at are basically all the same thing id kill for them to have matrix stuff :v:
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You realize Matrix is what Evike rebrands shitty stuff from China as, right? Any old surplus gear you can get is going to be 100 times better than that. It doesn't matter that you can get a Matrix branded MOLLE plate carrier, surplus belt rigs are going to be way higher quality.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;45569612]You realize Matrix is what Evike rebrands shitty stuff from China as, right? Any old surplus gear you can get is going to be 100 times better than that. It doesn't matter that you can get a Matrix branded MOLLE plate carrier, surplus belt rigs are going to be way higher quality.[/QUOTE]
I know its china shit but id rather buy that than have to pay for a freaking $80 bare chest plate plus 20 per mag pouch
[QUOTE=3bwii;45569623]I know its china shit but id rather buy that than have to pay for a freaking $80 bare chest plate plus 20 per mag pouch[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.torontoairsoft.com/Condor--Rapid-Assault-Chest-Rig-BK_p_2729.html[/url]
$40, no need to buy pouches.
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That's chinashit too but it's a better price than whatever you're looking at.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;45569665][url]http://www.torontoairsoft.com/Condor--Rapid-Assault-Chest-Rig-BK_p_2729.html[/url]
$40, no need to buy pouches.
[editline]2nd August 2014[/editline]
That's chinashit too but it's a better price than whatever you're looking at.[/QUOTE]
thought about this but it has nothing covering my chest and im verything so im worried about what might happen if i get shot in the middle of my chest this is more like something i would wear over a vest
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[QUOTE=3bwii;45569685]thought about this but it has nothing covering my chest and im verything so im worried about what might happen if i get shot in the middle of my chest this is more like something i would wear over a vest[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_96&products_id=11737[/url] this would literally be perfect but annoying to have to pay customs and shipping on
[url]http://www.torontoairsoft.com/Lancer-Tactical-CA-305B-Tactical-Assault-Plate-Carrier--BLACK_p_3066.html[/url] this is probably what im going to have to settle for
If you're scared about being shot in the chest of all places, maybe you should wait a while before getting into airsoft
Get a jpc repro
would i look like an idiot in flecktarn + a 1961g
[QUOTE=dong;45570047]would i look like an idiot in flecktarn + a 1961g[/QUOTE]
Probably not.
[QUOTE=3bwii;45569303]I cant get into surplus stores and all the online surplus stores ive looked at are basically all the same thing id kill for them to have matrix stuff :v:
[editline]2nd August 2014[/editline]
Im only getting the camo for the sake of having camo plus i have to shop in the "kids and infant section" due to my tiny frame so i cant get any sooper srs bbwarz opr8or camo[/QUOTE]
Look man this really is not as hard as you are making it. If you're going to keep refusing to hear what we have to say and doing what you want to do instead, then we're going to stop giving you advice.
So, for the umpteenth time: eBay. Yeah yeah, I know you're in Canada or whatever, but eBay still works there. You can find a million surplus things in the section that Herf linked you to and you'll still be paying half what you would buying that terrible Condor shit. Condor pouches and vests are shit manufacture and cost twice what Eagle surplus shit costs.
[QUOTE=3bwii;45569609]Sorry i think i meant lancer tactical anyways basically i just wish that stores would stock cheap vests with built-in m4 mag pouches and stuff (actually i wish they would stock something period)[/QUOTE]
Lancer Tactical is pretty much the same god-awful shit which, along with Matrix, you should never wish to have, let alone pay the prices you're looking at for.
[QUOTE=3bwii;45569685]thought about this but it has nothing covering my chest and im verything so im worried about what might happen if i get shot in the middle of my chest this is more like something i would wear over a vest
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[url]http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=28_96&products_id=11737[/url] this would literally be perfect but annoying to have to pay customs and shipping on
[url]http://www.torontoairsoft.com/Lancer-Tactical-CA-305B-Tactical-Assault-Plate-Carrier--BLACK_p_3066.html[/url] this is probably what im going to have to settle for[/QUOTE]
Apoc hit the nail on the head. If you're scared of getting shot and you have to shop in the infant section for clothing, maybe you're not ready.
[editline]2nd August 2014[/editline]
As for your actual list:
-Drop anything Condor brand and find a real-steel equivalent on eBay. (The $80 minimum for a real plate carrier is certainly worth the extra $20 for something that's not made of yarn and glue by starving Chinese slaves.)
-Drop all of the ACM accessories: also shit and found cheaper elsewhere.
Also, even that heinous list of Condor evil only totals up to 472, so I don't know where you're getting $600 from.
Sorry if I was a little vague on ny question regarding the CM16 Raider, what I meant ro ask was whether or not it'd be effective in an outdoor urban or woodland environment as the two sites I visit are that.
Anyone know what gloves these guys have here?
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yolHVpJr9Fw[/url]
[QUOTE=Zao Medong;45570160]Look man this really is not as hard as you are making it. If you're going to keep refusing to hear what we have to say and doing what you want to do instead, then we're going to stop giving you advice.
So, for the umpteenth time: eBay. Yeah yeah, I know you're in Canada or whatever, but eBay still works there. You can find a million surplus things in the section that Herf linked you to and you'll still be paying half what you would buying that terrible Condor shit. Condor pouches and vests are shit manufacture and cost twice what Eagle surplus shit costs.
Lancer Tactical is pretty much the same god-awful shit which, along with Matrix, you should never wish to have, let alone pay the prices you're looking at for.
Apoc hit the nail on the head. If you're scared of getting shot and you have to shop in the infant section for clothing, maybe you're not ready.
[editline]2nd August 2014[/editline]
As for your actual list:
-Drop anything Condor brand and find a real-steel equivalent on eBay. (The $80 minimum for a real plate carrier is certainly worth the extra $20 for something that's not made of yarn and glue by starving Chinese slaves.)
-Drop all of the ACM accessories: also shit and found cheaper elsewhere.
Also, even that heinous list of Condor evil only totals up to 472, so I don't know where you're getting $600 from.[/QUOTE]
Ok thank you for your help I apologies if I seem ungrateful for the help
I will go on to eBay and see if I can replace everything condor what brands do you reccomend I replace them with.
~ I've found Invader and Claw Gear are making some good products recently, I'm pretty sure there's better stuff out there (especially for Americans).
But it's kinda on a budget price range and some okay starter stuff too.
[QUOTE=3bwii;45571645]Ok thank you for your help I apologies if I seem ungrateful for the help
I will go on to eBay and see if I can replace everything condor what brands do you reccomend I replace them with.[/QUOTE]
Just look for US and Canadian surplus gear.
Eagle Manufacturing is good, Shellback makes good stuff, Phantom gear, hell you might even be able to find used HSGI or Blue Force gear at a good price on eBay.
If you can find an ALICE rig with the webgear, belt, buttpack, magazine pouches and canteen pouches, you've got a pretty damn good rig that looks classy and can hold a decent amount of magazines and they're generally only in the 40-60$ range.
[QUOTE=Arctic Aveng;45570850]Anyone know what gloves these guys have here?
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yolHVpJr9Fw[/url][/QUOTE]
here you go [url]http://www.torontoairsoft.com/ACM-O-Tactical-Gloves--TAN-Large_p_1074.html[/url] i use the same ones my self, pretty comfy.
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[QUOTE=Joetehpsycho;45571720]Just look for US and Canadian surplus gear.
Eagle Manufacturing is good, Shellback makes good stuff, Phantom gear, hell you might even be able to find used HSGI or Blue Force gear at a good price on eBay.
If you can find an ALICE rig with the webgear, belt, buttpack, magazine pouches and canteen pouches, you've got a pretty damn good rig that looks classy and can hold a decent amount of magazines and they're generally only in the 40-60$ range.[/QUOTE]
Running into an issue here... i cant find anything that will actually ship to canada
[QUOTE=Joetehpsycho;45571720]Just look for US and Canadian surplus gear.
Eagle Manufacturing is good, Shellback makes good stuff, Phantom gear, hell you might even be able to find used HSGI or Blue Force gear at a good price on eBay.
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Whilst Joe is right, Phantom gear is okay-made Chinagear that has come down in quality. Blue Force is all gimmicky shit that's too expensive for what it is, for a beginner kit, I wouldn't even consider it.
Most of the time, eBay is your best friend for gear.
Since you may ask, he's a good list of stuff to look for:
Budget:
ALICE Webbing
M1967 / MLCE Webbing
M1956 Webbing (Most likely more expensive)
-Insert whatever Canadians use-
Economy, Real Gear:
MSA Paraclete
5.11
BLACKHAWK!
Toy Soldier
-Others I can't remember-
Non-budget coolguy stuff that you can find for good prices:
Pre-MSA Paraclete
Eagle Industries
London Bridge Trading (LBT)
First Spear
TYR
Tactical Tailor
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That's all for pouches and rigs, mostly.
Alright, asked around with a few friends and they reckon the CM16 Raider is p good - but I wanted to ask, do you think [URL="http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/store/__56161__Turnigy_SC_8_4V_4200mAh_High_Power_Series_NiMH_Stick_Pack.html"]this[/URL] battery will fit it? I've not ordered either yet but I want to know whether or not it's worth spending extra on a crane battery or not.
It 100% will not.
[QUOTE=3bwii;45571982]here you go [url]http://www.torontoairsoft.com/ACM-O-Tactical-Gloves--TAN-Large_p_1074.html[/url] i use the same ones my self, pretty comfy.
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Running into an issue here... i cant find anything that will actually ship to canada[/QUOTE]
Are you actually using the Canadian eBay or are you searching on the American eBay. Because there's plenty o' shit on eBay Canada that ships to Canada.
As for brands, Kath is very much right. Also, surplus Coyote Brown Eagle and Allied Industries stuff is super cheap.
[QUOTE=Arctic Aveng;45570850]Anyone know what gloves these guys have here?
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yolHVpJr9Fw[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=3bwii;45571982]here you go [url]http://www.torontoairsoft.com/ACM-O-Tactical-Gloves--TAN-Large_p_1074.html[/url] i use the same ones my self, pretty comfy.[/QUOTE]
Nope, those aren't what they're using; those are the Chinese knockoff. These are the real deal:
[url]http://www.tacticaltailor.com/oakleysiassaultgloves.aspx[/url]
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