[QUOTE=Kronik;23328289]Uh, that's a side effect of psychedelics. It's not so much you using the drug for your higher purpose as it is the drug running away with you. You stop using these drugs long enough, that'll fade. I've seen it so many times before.[/QUOTE]
Your opinion doesn't mean shit to me. You've already established (in another thread, somewhere...) that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
[QUOTE=Kronik;23328289]Looks like the drugs have been present long enough to do some damage.[/QUOTE]
Yeah... no
[QUOTE=Kronik;23328289]I mean, I can see you talking about your altered state of mind and perception, you thinking you have a deeper understanding of human relations[/QUOTE]Oh, I certainly do. It's not entirely because of the pyschedelics, but I definitely look at the world differently than most people.
[QUOTE=Kronik;23328289]but you're treating this newbie to the drug culture in the most insufferable, annoying way.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it's because he's a fucktard, as are you, and I have a very low tolerance for dumb people. The both of you shall be chastised and verbally abused at every turn. The more I learn about humanity, the less I like it, and the less tolerance I have for it. I'm not a warm, cuddly person. I'm not here to hold your fucking hand and guide you into the world of drugs.
[QUOTE=Kronik;23328289]I suppose that's what happens when you leave people to their own devices. You can help someone reach another world, but if they spend too much time away, they forget why they left. Hmm.[/QUOTE]
Haha, you're retarded
[QUOTE=Kronik;23328289]Uh, that's a side effect of psychedelics. It's not so much you using the drug for your higher purpose as it is the drug running away with you. You stop using these drugs long enough, that'll fade. I've seen it so many times before.
Looks like the drugs have been present long enough to do some damage. I mean, I can see you talking about your altered state of mind and perception, you thinking you have a deeper understanding of human relations, but you're treating this newbie to the drug culture in the most insufferable, annoying way. I suppose that's what happens when you leave people to their own devices. You can help someone reach another world, but if they spend too much time away, they forget why they left. Hmm.[/QUOTE]
I haven't used a psychadelic in 2 months and it has changed my life CONSIDERABLY. Before using it I was dreadfully suicidal and actually attempted suicide once. This was an awful state to be in. As a last resort I decided to try a psychadelic drug and it showed me how awful it would be for me to end a life in a world so beautiful words cannot qualify it. Not only did it make me feel better about myself as an individual but it created a spark that lead to an explosion of emotions and allowed me to open up and talk about things much more freely.
In conclusion, I'm afraid I'd have to disagree with the idea you suggested about psychadelic revelations/epiphanies being temporary.
If you have experiences tripping, you can experience same sensations when smoking weed.
Maybe it's not like tripping, but, does every substance produce same type of trip? No, even if it is chemically similar you can notice that trip is different.
Just to add, if there is any drug that totally overwhelmed me every-time I touched it, is weed.
But those are just opinions.
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[QUOTE=Relys;23332253]tl;dr Emo looser gets his panties in a wad and turns to drugs. With his new found "insight", he becomes less suicidal but remains a complete jerkwad that nobody likes.[/QUOTE]
I don't even know what to say. He's emphasising on the effect psychedelics have on the brain; your mind and ego. It can be completely life changing, and he shown an example of such a thing. Who said he's a looser or a jerkwad that nobody likes? Dan is one of the most intelligent people you're going to find around these parts, his understanding in so many drugs and their effects on the body is outstanding. I, and a lot of others value his knowledge and advice, you should too.
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[QUOTE=Relys;23332460]Well, he's emphasizing it in the most stuck up and egotistical way possible.
You could say that same thing about religion. Just because it helps you deal with your self does not mean that everyone has to have it to have confidence and insight.
And we're talking about an internet forum related to the subject of drug consumption. If my friend was the utmost expert on some internet beanie baby fan forum, he would garner no extra respect for him as a human being.[/QUOTE]
Well I guess you don't belong here. Fuck off back to GD or wherever you got that ignorant attitude from
[QUOTE=Relys;23332253]tl;dr Emo looser gets his panties in a wad and turns to drugs. With his new found "insight", he becomes less suicidal but remains a complete jerkwad that nobody likes.
Seriously, I've always been pro drug (not just from an economic standpoint, but because I believe people should be able to make their own decisions about their body). But you sir, are not leaving a lasting good impression as a small sample of the drug using community.[/QUOTE]
Wow fuck you. You prick.
Religion is something that gets indoctrinated into human beings. Psychadelics are entirely borne from our own psyche which makes them so special. The idea that our mind can create something so brilliant has always fascinated me.
Clearly you've never experienced a psychadelic drug as you cannot possibly comprehend how special they are. I've pondered structures of words for up to an hour just thinking how amazing it all is. It may not always be productive but sometimes it really is life changing and people like you ruin it for everyone else.
Additionally, psychadelics are the safest group of Serotonergic drugs that exist. Mushrooms, LSD, 2C-E etc are all very much safe and I don't believe they're neurotoxic. You can't argue with that.
[editline]07:03PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Imaledgev2;23332559]Well I guess you don't belong here. Fuck off back to GD or wherever you got that ignorant attitude from[/QUOTE]
This guy has got it right. ^^
Thanks man.
[QUOTE=Relys;23332253]tl;dr Emo looser gets his panties in a wad and turns to drugs. With his new found "insight", he becomes less suicidal but remains a complete jerkwad that nobody likes.
Seriously, I've always been pro drug (not just from an economic standpoint, but because I believe people should be able to make their own decisions about their body). But you sir, are not leaving a lasting good impression as a small sample of the drug using community.[/QUOTE]
Completely uncalled for response.
I hope you choke on something and die.
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[QUOTE=Relys;23336550]It's enraging 'cuz it's true.
Also, just because something has a life changing testimony doesn't make it any nobler of a product. People do things to cope with poor life decisions and/or unbalanced hormonal levels all the time. Just because your mind swerves off its default presets does not really make the world any brighter. If you can't appreciate the beauty of existence without an illusion I truly feel sorry for you.[/QUOTE]
It's not illusion it's augmentation, enhancement, transcendence.
By the way, why are you still here? You've been a complete dick to me for no fucking reason. You just seem to be preaching about how "[i]I[/i] don't use drugs because I'm [i]better[/i] than everybody else".
[QUOTE=Relys;23332253]tl;dr Emo looser gets his panties in a wad and turns to drugs. With his new found "insight", he becomes less suicidal but remains a complete jerkwad that nobody likes.[/QUOTE]
Dan is one of the nicest, and respected/knowledgeable, posters in DD. You can go fuck yourself.
[QUOTE=Relys;23332253]But you sir, are not leaving a lasting good impression as a small sample of the drug using community.[/QUOTE]
Seriously? It's people like [b]you[/b] that draw negative attention to the drug community. If more drug users were like Dan, then perhaps we wouldn't look so bad.
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[QUOTE=Relys;23332460]Well, he's emphasizing it in the most stuck up and egotistical way possible.[/QUOTE]
Eh... no, he wasn't... I think you just can't deal with being called out. He was just making a point. Don't be such a little bitch.
[QUOTE=Relys;23332460]You could say that same thing about religion. Just because it helps you deal with your self does not mean that everyone has to have it to have confidence and insight[/QUOTE]
Not even close to what we're getting at, but, again, I don't expect you to understand. You're just an ignorant little shit.
[QUOTE=Relys;23332460]And we're talking about an internet forum related to the subject of drug consumption. If my friend was the utmost expert on some internet beanie baby fan forum, he would garner no extra respect for him as a human being.[/QUOTE]
That's a bad analogy. Drug knowledge is fairly important if you use drugs, dumbass :downs:
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[QUOTE=Relys;23336550]It's enraging 'cuz it's true.[/QUOTE]
It's enraging because you're a disrespectful little faggot. You came to us crying and bitching about how you can't handle your weed and then you get mad at us for calling you a pussy.
[QUOTE=Relys;23336550]Also, just because something has a life changing testimony doesn't make it any nobler of a product. People do things to cope with poor life decisions and/or unbalanced hormonal levels all the time. Just because your mind swerves off its default presets does not really make the world any brighter. If you can't appreciate the beauty of existence without an illusion I truly feel sorry for you.[/QUOTE]
Using psychedelic drugs to view the world through a unique perceptive is hardly using drugs to cope. If I wanted to just cope with life, I'd just get doped up on some opiates and feeeeeeel gooooood maaaaaaan.
Not that you'd understand any of this. Ever.
So, in conclusion, you can kindly get the fuck out. You're not welcome here.
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Relys you're an idiot.
Go away.
Relys, you're a tool.
[QUOTE=Relys;23343407]
"I can kindly get the fuck out"? Ahaha,[/QUOTE]
I don't think you understand how quotes work. You don't see people quoting philosophers and substituting Socrates' reference to himself with "I". do you now?
Good luck getting advice with the lovely attitude you've displayed. I would be ruder but you're not worth it.
By the way, thanks Anubis, you've made me feel all warm and fuzzy 'like, thanks.
Pome should come fuck this bitch up but he's dissapeared, not on Skype or his phone, anybody know where he is? Looking at you Greg...!
[QUOTE=Relys;23343407]The frequency you bring up your opinion of me is only degrading any mature or enlightened viewpoint you're trying to hold.[/QUOTE]
I never claimed to be enlightened, and I certainly never claimed it makes me a better person. In fact, I generally don't think of myself as a "good" person.
I do what I want, and I say what I want, and I'll be damned if I give a flying fuck what some scrawny little faggot like you thinks.
[QUOTE=Relys;23343407]Well, keep deluding yourself, see if anyone gives a fuck.[/QUOTE]
How am I deluding myself? Oh, and a lot of people seem to give a fuck. In fact, most of the people who come to me for drug advice seem to give a fuck. I've got quite the reputation, both online and IRL. What have you got?
By the way, I've been browsing some of your [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=921228]other threads[/url], and it is very apparent that you are a fan of the cock. Seriously, in and around your mouth, all times of the day. Big black dildos, too.
Relys:
[img]http://i42.tinypic.com/2ijtgd5.jpg[/img]
Some good excerpts:
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]Dear facepunch, I am tired of having women expect that all men pursue women.[/QUOTE]
Not off to a good start, are we? Oh dear...
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]I was homeschooled throughout highschool[/QUOTE]
i.e.- "I have no social skills"
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]Not only is it discouraging to me that I feel expected to pursue women[/QUOTE]
Hey man, people are open-minded in college. You don't have to hide who you really are. We all know that, deep down, you just want a nice big juicy cock
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]I am a very unique individual and most women don't have the same eccentricities as I do[/QUOTE]i.e.- "I'm awkward in social situations"
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]I'm a romantic, vegitarian, atheist, with a strong love for gourmet food and cats.[/QUOTE]i.e.- "I am a vagina"
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]I'm already taking ballroom dancing this semester[/QUOTE]Ok man, the joke was funny the first few times, but seriously... You like dick, and there's no avoiding it...
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]but non of the girls are interested in me as a person[/QUOTE]Probably because you're not very interesting.
And because you're gay.
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]When I was 15 I got my first offer to make out with my childhood crush. Unfortunately she had just broken up with her boyfriend, so I respectful declined her invitation (which she took offense too). Is it true that nice guys never get pussy?[/QUOTE]
You're not getting pussy because you [b]are[/b] a fucking pussy.
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]I'm almost 18 and I've never even kissed a girl.[/QUOTE]:lol:
[QUOTE=Relys;21244180]I'm tired of waiting for miss perfect. :'( Where ever you are out there, I'm waiting for you to sweep me off my feet.[/QUOTE]
i.e.- "I'm a desperate little emo faggot"
[editline]06:21AM[/editline]
I believe this just about sums you up:
[QUOTE=Relys]tl;dr Emo looser gets his panties in a wad and turns to drugs[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Relys;23343407]Hey, if I do end up deciding to do acid with my friend I'll create a thread especially for you.[/QUOTE]
:cawg:
[QUOTE=Relys;23336550] If you can't appreciate the beauty of existence without an illusion I truly feel sorry for you.[/QUOTE]
If you can't appreciate the fact that psychadelic drugs can give you an entirely new insight on the beauty of existence then I feel sorry for you.
Hahaha, relys you got fucked.
Holy shit this is just too funny.
This is for you Anubis:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qksndNDMDOw[/media]
That's such a fucking awesome film.
OP is a fucking idiot.
Look who's talking Mr my stomach hurts on excessive Ibuprofen.
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Beauty is entirely subjective and is not a boolean idea. If two girls are beautiful it is possible for one to be more beautiful than another. In essence, psychadelic drugs make beautiful things more beautiful and allow us to rediscover things we have always taken for granted such as the fact the birds sing in the morning and the grass looking so lovely and profound.
[QUOTE=Anubis678;23323523]Those of us who can, however, are able to use psychedelics as a means of altering perception, changing the way you look at the world and observe human interaction. Far more than that, it's a way of observing yourself from an almost-entirely objective view. You start observing patterns in your own behavior, start noticing all of the subconscious, instinctual things you do. You really start to notice what you do for show, for the sake of the people around you, and what is really a part of you.
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I thought this was a normal everyday thing?
As a matter of fact where is Stalk?
I love to hear what he has to say about this.
[QUOTE=Rastaboy;23356550]I thought this was a normal everyday thing?[/QUOTE]
Yes, more or less. What I was try to explain was the way people see that. People either recognize that potential and use psychedelics to further their understanding of the mind, or they just use it for a fun drug experience. Relys would be the latter, and would not understand the former.
[QUOTE=Dan The Man;23217015]A high dose of weed for me is more mindfuck than most psychadelics. I find psychadelics have more clarity of thought and I enjoy the same intensity more.
Weed is best for sensual things like eating food or playing music. I fucking love writing music when high.[/QUOTE]
Word.
My tolerance is way up, but if I manage to get high enough, back to those nostalgic first few smokes kinda high, the world opens up to me. Way more emotionally expressive, with everything glowing, the sense of concrete meaning. I feel ready to do anything at that moment.
Weed is the Jedi master.
And I am the padawan.
I'm a Sith Lord...
:c00lbert:
[QUOTE=Anubis678;23257967]I agree with you, smoking a lot can definitely be trippy, but it never becomes a trip. There is a solid, discernible difference between really high and tripping. There is a significant sense of disconnection that is only experienced when tripping. No amount of marijuana can produce that effect. Trust me, I've tried.[/QUOTE]
The range of feelings that constitute a "trip" (i.e. from DXM to 2C-E) lead me to believe that there isn't a real concrete way to define the word.
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[QUOTE=Fizzadar;23312719]I wouldn't call it tripping, more distortion of the mind because you're so baked.[/QUOTE]
That's about the closest definition I can find to 'tripping' though. A distortion of sensory perception.
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[QUOTE=Kyle v2;23358045]I'm a Sith Lord...
:c00lbert:[/QUOTE]
What is your bidding, My Master? :worship:
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