[QUOTE=Maegord;18794630]We could, but the democrats are acting extremely partisan on the issues as well and destroy whatever the republicans try to do because of their majority.
[editline]11:17PM[/editline]
Posting in a thread named "Let's Bash Repubicans!" with a Glenn Beck Avatar.[/QUOTE]
well get rid of glenn beck and maybe you'll convince them you aren't bat shit crazy
[QUOTE=Topher;18794105]Hmmm...your ignorance is very evident. First, John McCain was assumed to be near death. This is not true, and was assumed on the fact that major bone structures in his arms had been damaged as a POW, and were never set right.[/QUOTE]
No. It was because he is FUCKING OLD AS SHIT, and would have been the oldest fucking President in the history of the country.
[QUOTE=Topher;18794105]Second, Sarah Palin is a very competent leader. She just broke under the pressure of the entire American population making fun of her (because of SNL and the likes). It seems that Obama giving way, too. *cough*30,000troops*cough* what?[/QUOTE]
She quit the most important job she ever had.
TRULY A SIGN OF A GREAT LEADER!!!!!
[QUOTE=thisispain;18794644]well get rid of glenn beck and maybe you'll convince them you aren't bat shit crazy[/QUOTE]
Oh my god, yeah. Those bitter old democrats are jsut opposing absolutely everything that the Republicans try to accomplish!
Also, red is blue and south is north so remember to get your new compasses.
[editline]05:24AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;18794681]She quit the most important job she ever had.
TRULY A SIGN OF A GREAT LEADER!!!!![/QUOTE]
And she thinks the world is fucking 6000 years old. And she's never, EVER had a single interview in which she didn't look like a complete no nothing incompetent jackass. And practically everything she's ever said is stupid.
[QUOTE=thisispain;18794326]
it's true
she also likes being spanked[/QUOTE]
keep your fetishes to yourself pervert!!!
[QUOTE=thisispain;18794644]well get rid of glenn beck and maybe you'll convince them you aren't bat shit crazy[/QUOTE]
lol glenn beck.
It should be illegal for him to exist.
Can we all just agree that both the republicans and the democrats are idiots?
ps no one will ever love you thisispain
NO ONE
[editline]05:26AM[/editline]
stop posting in this thread you ruined my automerge
[editline]05:26AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Maegord;18794729]Can we all just agree that both the republicans and the democrats are idiots?[/QUOTE]
republicans are filth though
[QUOTE=Maegord;18794729]Can we all just agree that both the republicans and the democrats are idiots?[/QUOTE]
So 99% of Americans are idiots?
Nice.
[QUOTE]
republicans are filth though[/QUOTE]
democrats are filth too.
[QUOTE=Maegord;18794754]democrats are filth too.[/QUOTE]
not anywhere near the same level, but yes
Goddamnit THIS is why the US is going to the dogs! Oh, and brain dawgs wasn't an original idea by crackbone, FYI.
[QUOTE=Chippay;18794772]not anywhere near the same level, but yes[/QUOTE]
... I give up on trying to make everyone happy...
:suicide:
[QUOTE=Maegord;18794783]... I give up on trying to make everyone happy...
:suicide:[/QUOTE]
that's good, because the republican party really has the worst opinions and you should feel bad if you support them
i'm not talking 'oh, this sucks' bad i'm talking 'maybe suicide is the best option' bad
[QUOTE=Chippay;18794800]that's good, because the republican party really has the worst opinions and you should feel bad if you support them
i'm not talking 'oh, this sucks' bad i'm talking 'maybe suicide is the best option' bad[/QUOTE]
It's because gay marriage killed my father, and raped my mother.
[QUOTE=Topher;18794773]Goddamnit THIS is why the US is going to the dogs! Oh, and brain dawgs wasn't an original idea by crackbone, FYI.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, he just made them awesome. And therefor I only care about them in relation to him, and any other form of brain dawgs is retarded.
[editline]05:35AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Maegord;18794783]... I give up on trying to make everyone happy...
:suicide:[/QUOTE]
[quote=Maegord's mind] Hmm, how will I make everyone happy?
OH YEAH, I KNOW! CALL EVERYONE AN IDIOT! Wow, I'm so smart.
HURP DURP HURP DURP DURF[/quote]
Maegord's mind was later killed by his intestine, which, fearing the ramifications of his mind's stupidity, decided that death was better than whatever life could bring.
[QUOTE=Wayword;18794835]It's because gay marriage killed my father, and raped my mother.[/QUOTE]
oh no.
[QUOTE=Chippay;18794895]oh no.[/QUOTE]
True story.
That's why people hate gay marriage.
Because gay marriage kills. Thousands.
DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS
DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALISTS
DEMOCRATS ARE SOCIALIS--
Maegord's intestine crits Maegord for 1337 damage.
Maegord dies.
This thread is terrible, half of you don't even know what it means to be a liberal, republican, socialist, ect. You just follow what your mommy and daddy say
[QUOTE=Shrooms;18795171]This thread is terrible, half of you don't even know what it means to be a liberal, republican, socialist, ect. You just follow what your mommy and daddy say[/QUOTE]
Not really.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;18787151]that's dumb and disjointed as hell. So cancer treatments aren't going to be covered, but hospital stays are?
Where do you draw the line? What counts as "basic care" and what doesn't?[/QUOTE]
Fuck just look up Avanex Switzerland, that health care system is fine, the basic as described by the company should be free for all
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[QUOTE=Trotsky;18787219]uh, the free market has been tried scattered amount of times, and every time it fucking fails.
You need government watch dog agencies
like the FDA, or FAA.
Or child labour laws[/QUOTE]
Once again, I meant a capitalist system in which there are laws to stop child labour, etc...
But I still believe that everyone should work for what they want besides health care, security, the basic services.
[QUOTE=Earthen;18798460]
Once again, I meant a capitalist system in which there are laws to stop child labour, etc...
But I still believe that everyone should work for what they want besides health care, security, the basic services.[/QUOTE]
It doesn't work this way. 90% of the population is considered poor or not wealthy. You mean to tell me all these people don't work?
18% of the population doesn't have healthcare. You mean to tell me that they are all lazy and do not work?
you're not exactly a champion of the free market if you have restrictions on it. Like the FDA or child labour laws. Are these not "nanny laws"? do these laws not take away your economic freedom?
Face it, a complete free market would be a colossal failure.
[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;18766743]I'm a Republican.[/QUOTE]
bwahahaha
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18798552]Face it, a complete free market would be a colossal failure.[/QUOTE]
90% of people who champion a "free market" don't actually understand what that means, and when pressed actually support heavy market regulation.
They hear the Republican/Conservative talking heads on the radio and TV tell them that free markets are good, and so they parrot those words without understanding what they mean.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18798552]It doesn't work this way. 90% of the population is considered poor or not wealthy. You mean to tell me all these people don't work?
18% of the population doesn't have healthcare. You mean to tell me that they are all lazy and do not work?
you're not exactly a champion of the free market if you have restrictions on it. Like the FDA or child labour laws. Are these not "nanny laws"? do these laws not take away your economic freedom?
Face it, a complete free market would be a colossal failure.[/QUOTE]
I'm talking about a system in which there are laws, yet the majority of the economy is private and functions without government support. Sorry for not being clear.
In a communist system 100% of the population would get jack shit and still do shitloads of work.
Do you think that I should get the same amount of money as you even though I do nothing and you do all the work?
90% of which population? In the US and Europe I highly doubt 90% of the population is 'poor' unless poor is under a million dollars a year salary.
Do you think that everybody should have the exact same salary even though a brain surgeon's work is a lot harder than that of a janitor. That is pathetic, communists are just lazy, jealous people who think they are the most important in the world.
[QUOTE=Earthen;18799132]I'm talking about a system in which there are laws, yet the majority of the economy is private and functions without government support. Sorry for not being clear. [/QUOTE]
This is what Democrats want.
They want modified capitalism, in which industry is regulated but mostly left alone except for dire circumstances (such as the threat of a collapse of the banking industry), and where the people are given basic services (basic health care, public transportation, etc) by the government.
[QUOTE=Earthen;18799132]In a communist system 100% of the population would get jack shit and still do shitloads of work.[/QUOTE]
Democrats do not support or believe in communism or socialism.
[QUOTE=Earthen;18799132]Do you think that I should get the same amount of money as you even though I do nothing and you do all the work?[/QUOTE]
That's not how it works.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."
You give what you can, and you take what you need. Seems pretty fair to me, unless you're saying that retarded people or invalids should be allowed to starve to death on the streets since they "do nothing" and can't support themselves.
[QUOTE=Earthen;18799132]Do you think that everybody should have the exact same salary even though a brain surgeon's work is a lot harder than that of a janitor. That is pathetic, communists are just lazy, jealous people who think they are the most important in the world.[/QUOTE]
You don't understand even the most basic principles of the political system you're talking about.
Independent party ftw.
[QUOTE=Earthen;18799132]I'm talking about a system in which there are laws, yet the majority of the economy is private and functions without government support. Sorry for not being clear. [/quote]
That's not a free market then.
[quote]In a communist system 100% of the population would get jack shit and still do shitloads of work.[/quote]
You don't know what you're talking about. At all
you should stop posting.
[quote]Do you think that I should get the same amount of money as you even though I do nothing and you do all the work?[/quote]
Lets just say, magically, that how you describe communism, a system that uses capital, is true. Then no, I do not.
[quote]90% of which population? In the US and Europe I highly doubt 90% of the population is 'poor' unless poor is under a million dollars a year salary. [/quote]
According to Federal Reserve's survey for consumer finances: 90% of the united States population owns 28% of the Wealth of the US. Mathematically and equally distributed, everyone would be dirt poor. But they are more then likely not. So there is SO few of that 90% that are upper middle class. So lets 70% then.
you can highly doubt all you want, still it's true.
[quote]Do you think that everybody should have the exact same salary even though a brain surgeon's work is a lot harder than that of a janitor. That is pathetic, communists are just lazy, jealous people who think they are the most important in the world.[/QUOTE]
I don't see how salary can be equated with communism.
I work, pay my taxes as well as go to university. I am not lazy. I am not jealous. I am also not a ignorant, lazy white kid who probably lives in a suburban gated community with other rich upper middle class white people; like you.
[QUOTE=Trotsky;18800297]That's not a free market then.
You don't know what you're talking about. At all
you should stop posting.
Lets just say, magically, that how you describe communism, a system that uses capital, is true. Then no, I do not.
According to Federal Reserve's survey for consumer finances: 90% of the united States population owns 28% of the Wealth of the US. Mathematically and equally distributed, everyone would be dirt poor. But they are more then likely not. So there is SO few of that 90% that are upper middle class. So lets 70% then.
you can highly doubt all you want, still it's true.
I don't see how salary can be equated with communism.
I work, pay my taxes as well as go to university. I am not lazy. I am not jealous. I am also not a ignorant, lazy white kid who probably lives in a suburban gated community with other rich upper middle class white people; like you.[/QUOTE]
Yes I live in Switzerland, so you are probably right about the upper middle class thing. Also what do you use as basis for my lazyness, I do the fucking IB, I have one day a week of actual free time, the rest is just work. How am I ignorant? So because I believe that a capitalist system is better than a communist system I am ignorant? You sound like the typical angsty teen who thinks they have the solution to all the world's problems. Communism has been proven to be a complete failure. I'm sure if you go ask a farmer about his life during the Soviet Union, he will tell you it was absolute shit.
So are you a communist then or not?
Please explain then most equal comrade as to how communism works? As I so clearly am an ignorant capitalist for having my own views. Views that the governments of most developed countries share...
And why do still insist on calling my idea of how an economy should work, a free market. I'm saying that I'm a democrat and I believe in capitalism...is that so hard to understand?
I wish we'd all just get along.
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