Let's Bash Republicans! - General

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;18799438]This is what Democrats want. They want modified capitalism, in which industry is regulated but mostly left alone except for dire circumstances (such as the threat of a collapse of the banking industry), and where the people are given basic services (basic health care, public transportation, etc) by the government. Democrats do not support or believe in communism or socialism. That's not how it works. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." You give what you can, and you take what you need. Seems pretty fair to me, unless you're saying that retarded people or invalids should be allowed to starve to death on the streets since they "do nothing" and can't support themselves. You don't understand even the most basic principles of the political system you're talking about.[/QUOTE] Well then I am a democrat. Now am I mistaken or is communism more about the working class taking over and driving a country into the ground because you actually need skilled people and private enterprise? I think that invalids and retards should be sent to special schools and given the opportunity to benefit the country somehow. I also believe the system in which homeless people are given money to get a job and house and then they repay it later on is quite good.

I get paid quite well doing the stuff I like to do. I am happy this way, don't want or require any more money than what I already make, and as an engineer, I feel like I am actually making the world better and more livable. What does that make me?

[QUOTE=Cathbadh;18802999]I get paid quite well doing the stuff I like to do. I am happy this way, don't want or require any more money than what I already make, and as an engineer, I feel like I am actually making the world better and more livable. What does that make me?[/QUOTE] Content

I am a Republican/Conservative, I accept homosexuality as norm, but am not homosexual myself I believe that one's Religion is the moral compass of which one follows~ I also believe in God, But I also believe that he does not take act in occurences on Earth~ I understand that people are all different and do not think the same, Thusly I accept that not everyone has my political views- But I will educate to the extent of which I can to those whom ask. I also believe that Science and Religion Can infact co-exist. It has occured to me that what people have seen for ages as a linear stable world and existance has the abilty to change itself at whim in ways only fathomed by todays best scientists and said theories. Like the idea of multiple universes and spatial dimensions. Truth is stranger than fiction is best put to use in said circumstances. [EDIT -->]{ Why rate a *dumb* when you can simply tell me why you dislike my Views?}

[QUOTE=Earthen;18802723]Well then I am a democrat. Now am I mistaken or is communism more about the working class taking over and driving a country into the ground because you actually need skilled people and private enterprise? I think that invalids and retards should be sent to special schools and given the opportunity to benefit the country somehow. I also believe the system in which homeless people are given money to get a job and house and then they repay it later on is quite good.[/QUOTE] A communist system is mostly centered around how much a human is worth. Old people and those with disabilities are tossed out onto the street, and healthy able-bodied people usually just told to work for the lucky few who are born into an extremely wealthy family. Communism can even be seen as a way of life, instead of government. People who follow this are supposed to approve of denial of welfare and healthcare because old people and the infirm are "useless." I do not follow this.

[QUOTE=Earthen;18802723]I also believe the system in which homeless people are given money to get a job and house and then they repay it later on is quite good.[/QUOTE] I think welfare should only cover those with disabilities or mental issues. The current system does not work. We are simply giving the money of the rich taxpayers to a bunch of poor people, who, in term, get drunk and blame the rich. Instead, we should practically abolish welfare, and force these people to enter programs teaching them how to work and sustain themselves.

i'm a republican and i hate gays bite me

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18804581]we should practically abolish welfare, and force these people to enter programs teaching them how to work and sustain themselves.[/QUOTE] Teaching someone how to work and be self-sufficient costs a hell of a lot more than it does to just give them some food stamps and keep them at sub-poverty levels. You'd have to raise taxes on the rich for your plan... [editline]10:49PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Topher;18804408]A communist system is mostly centered around how much a human is worth. Old people and those with disabilities are tossed out onto the street, and healthy able-bodied people usually just told to work for the lucky few who are born into an extremely wealthy family. Communism can even be seen as a way of life, instead of government. People who follow this are supposed to approve of denial of welfare and healthcare because old people and the infirm are "useless." I do not follow this.[/QUOTE] Everything you say is completely wrong. You are an idiot and a troll.

[QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18804391]I am a Republican/Conservative, I accept homosexuality as norm, but am not homosexual myself I believe that one's Religion is the moral compass of which one follows~ I also believe in God, But I also believe that he does not take act in occurences on Earth~ I understand that people are all different and do not think the same, Thusly I accept that not everyone has my political views- But I will educate to the extent of which I can to those whom ask. I also believe that Science and Religion Can infact co-exist. It has occured to me that what people have seen for ages as a linear stable world and existance has the abilty to change itself at whim in ways only fathomed by todays best scientists and said theories. Like the idea of multiple universes and spatial dimensions. Truth is stranger than fiction is best put to use in said circumstances. [EDIT -->]{ Why rate a *dumb* when you can simply tell me why you dislike my Views?}[/QUOTE] I think you're missing something there, chief. So, killed any blasphemers recently? Well then it hardly matters. Good on ya. As I said, is this a "one does all the work and the other takes all the credit" sort of relationship?

[QUOTE=Earthen;18802723]Well then I am a democrat. Now am I mistaken or is communism more about the working class taking over and driving a country into the ground because you actually need skilled people and private enterprise? I think that invalids and retards should be sent to special schools and given the opportunity to benefit the country somehow. I also believe the system in which homeless people are given money to get a job and house and then they repay it later on is quite good.[/QUOTE] you are mistaken. [QUOTE=Topher;18804408]A communist system is mostly centered around how much a human is worth. Old people and those with disabilities are tossed out onto the street, and healthy able-bodied people usually just told to work for the lucky few who are born into an extremely wealthy family. Communism can even be seen as a way of life, instead of government. People who follow this are supposed to approve of denial of welfare and healthcare because old people and the infirm are "useless." I do not follow this.[/QUOTE] you are mistaken. i really have no idea where you got this either [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18804581]I think welfare should only cover those with disabilities or mental issues. The current system does not work. We are simply giving the money of the rich taxpayers to a bunch of [b]poor people, who, in term, get drunk and blame the rich.[/b] Instead, we should practically abolish welfare, and force these people to enter programs teaching them how to work and sustain themselves.[/QUOTE] you are SADLY mistaken. typical libertarian cop-out is to blame the poor as the lazy people

Would you like to state how I was wrong? And how am I the one stirring up anger and instigating fights.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18805414]Strange statement [/QUOTE] I don't like blasphemy, but I wouldn't kill over it. Also, I'am unsure on what you mean about *you are missing something chief*

[QUOTE=Earthen;18802673]Yes I live in Switzerland, so you are probably right about the upper middle class thing. Also what do you use as basis for my lazyness, I do the fucking IB, I have one day a week of actual free time, the rest is just work. [/quote] Doesn't make you intelligent or productive. [quote]How am I ignorant? So because I believe that a capitalist system is better than a communist system I am ignorant?[/quote] You have no clue what communism entails. And you think Capitalism is super sweet, even though it has been historically proven to be a cluster fuck of fail [quote]You sound like the typical angsty teen who thinks they have the solution to all the world's problems.[/quote] You're in the Swiss IB, that means I'm older then you. [quote]Communism has been proven to be a complete failure. I'm sure if you go ask a farmer about his life during the Soviet Union, he will tell you it was absolute shit. [/quote] The Soviet Union was never communist. [quote]So are you a communist then or not? [/quote] I am. [quote]Please explain then most equal comrade as to how communism works? [/quote] Stateless, classless society. Think of a commune but on a massive scale. [quote]As I so clearly am an ignorant capitalist for having my own views. Views that the governments of most developed countries share...[/quote] Like Sweden, or Denmark, or France or- oh :( they're democratic socialist, nvm. [quote]And why do still insist on calling my idea of how an economy should work, a free market. I'm saying that I'm a democrat and I believe in capitalism...is that so hard to understand?[/QUOTE] I didn't say that, you did. Just pointing out how retarded it is. [editline]01:09AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Earthen;18802723]Well then I am a democrat. Now am I mistaken or is communism more about the working class taking over and driving a country into the ground because you actually need skilled people and private enterprise?[/quote] Yeah, you're mistaken. Thanks for admitting it. [quote]I think that invalids and retards should be sent to special schools and given the opportunity to benefit the country somehow. I also believe the system in which homeless people are given money to get a job and house and then they repay it later on is quite good.[/QUOTE] They aren't doing that... now? [editline]01:10AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Topher;18804408]A communist system is mostly centered around how much a human is worth. [B]Old people and those with disabilities are tossed out onto the street,[/B] and healthy able-bodied people usually just told to work for the lucky few who are born into an extremely wealthy family. Communism can even be seen as a way of life, instead of government. People who follow this are supposed to approve of denial of welfare and healthcare because old people and the infirm are "useless." I do not follow this.[/QUOTE] Not really. good try though, mccarthy. [editline]01:11AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18804581]I think welfare should only cover those with disabilities or mental issues. The current system does not work. We are simply giving the money of the rich taxpayers to a bunch of poor people, who, in term, get drunk and blame the rich. Instead, we should practically abolish welfare, and force these people to enter programs teaching them how to work and sustain themselves.[/QUOTE] oh hey it's boba fett with ANOTHER stupid post. Yes, all recipients of Welfare get drunk and blame the rich... as opposed to the Conservatives and Libertarians who get fat and blame the poor. [editline]01:11AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Topher;18805943]Would you like to state how I was wrong? And how am I the one stirring up anger and instigating fights.[/QUOTE] No, you're jus' trollin [editline]01:11AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18804391]I am a Republican/Conservative[/QUOTE] That's like admitting you're autistic.

Your refusal to tell me why I'm wrong exposes your true ignorance, and therefore, you are arguing for the sake of arguing, and thus trolling yourself. I humbly submit my statement that you were just VERBALLY DOMINATED!

[QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18806513]I don't like blasphemy, but I wouldn't kill over it. Also, I'am unsure on what you mean about *you are missing something chief*[/QUOTE] Well then you aren't using your religion as your moral compas now are you? The whole point of homosexuality is that it's not a choice. So you wouldn't have so say what you said.

I hate the extremists in both parties, so I consider myself an independent. It's good to stay away from generalizations.

[QUOTE=Topher;18806889]Your refusal to tell me why I'm wrong exposes your true ignorance, and therefore, you are arguing for the sake of arguing, and thus trolling yourself. I humbly submit my statement that you were just VERBALLY DOMINATED![/QUOTE] you say Communists throw old people out on the street. that's not stupid?

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18806923]Well then you aren't using your religion as your moral compas now are you? The whole point of homosexuality is that it's not a choice. So you wouldn't have so say what you said.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but weren't you chastising me earlier on poor grammar? I'm pretty sure compass has two "s"s. [editline]12:41AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Trotsky;18807111]you say Communists throw old people out on the street. that's not stupid?[/QUOTE] That was a figure of speech. They hold senior citizens in such low regard that they recieve no upkeep from the government and their families don't respect them because they can't work. You have to first understand that communism is all about pooled land and labor to "gain a productive advantage." the problem is that the land is owned first and foremost by the wealthy elite, and the lower classes recieve meager pay. Russia sure as hell showed us how that all turns out.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18806923]Well then you aren't using your religion as your moral compas now are you? The whole point of homosexuality is that it's not a choice. So you wouldn't have so say what you said.[/QUOTE] It is said that a man should not lay with another man as with a woman, Not that we should hate people that do. Religious texts are up to interpretation as is its values, and putting a twist on a sentence to make it do as you wish is rather foolish no? I still do not fully understand what it is you are getting at- It also seems you do not either.

[QUOTE=Topher;18807119]I'm sorry but weren't you chastising me earlier on poor grammar? I'm pretty sure compass has two "s"s. [editline]12:41AM[/editline] That was a figure of speech. They hold senior citizens in such low regard that they recieve no upkeep from the government and their families don't respect them because they can't work. You have to first understand that communism is all about pooled land and labor to "gain a productive advantage." the problem is that the land is owned first and foremost by the wealthy elite, and the lower classes recieve meager pay. Russia sure as hell showed us how that all turns out.[/QUOTE] That's not bad grammar that's bad spelling. Christ, you're such a failure.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18807279]That's not bad grammar that's bad spelling. Christ, you're such a failure.[/QUOTE] The point is that your English skills are no better than mine. And are you admitting to the existence of Christ, savior of God's people?

[QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18807267]It is said that a man should not lay with another man as with a woman, Not that we should hate people that do. Religious texts are up to interpretation as is its values, and putting a twist on a sentence to make it do as you wish is rather foolish no? I still do not fully understand what it is you are getting at- It also seems you do not either.[/QUOTE] I'll say this again, and I'll say it in small words. You don't need to qualify that you aren't homosexual when you say you're OK with homosexuality, because people who aren't stupid know that most people aren't homosexual, and that you can't choose to be homosexual. So when you say that, it just comes across as awkward. Okay, so how do you "interpret" Exodus 21? [editline]12:50AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Topher;18807373]The point is that your English skills are no better than mine. And are you admitting to the existence of Christ, savior of God's people?[/QUOTE] Or that my s key isn't as apt as yours. Nope, Cthulhu has already taken my spiritual virginity. I'll have no other God before him, sorry.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18807382]Arrogant statement [/QUOTE] The way it was said was not clarifying enough, thusly I clarified it, God-Forbid I state something that I feel helps define what I am talking about, also Yeah- Small words, i'm obviously a Moron and need it in *laymans terms* right? EDIT: Also, how the hell would everyone automatically know that I am not gay due to *statistics* Is everyone informed of my sexuality upon my birth? As for the Bible, That is the written word of Prophets, The only words I believe to be of God is the Commandments, Other feelings toward that subject are personal.

[QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18807445]The way it was said was not clarifying enough, thusly I clarified it, God-Forbid I state something that I feel helps define what I am talking about, also Yeah- Small words, i'm obviously a Moron and need it in *laymans terms* right? EDIT: Also, how the hell would everyone automatically know that I am not gay due to *statistics* Is everyone informed of my sexuality upon my birth?[/QUOTE] Nobody needs to know you're not gay any more than we need to know that you are gay. It's an irrelevance, and that's what I was trying to say. I was condescending because I don't like having to say things twice. But enough of that, let's get to the meat of the issue. What is your interpretation of Exodus 21? [editline]12:57AM[/editline] And I was saying that statistically you have only a 2% chance of being gay, so to assume that you are in the absence of information would be stupid anyway.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18807512]Nobody needs to know you're not gay any more than we need to know that you are gay. It's an irrelevance, and that's what I was trying to say. I was condescending because I don't like having to say things twice. But enough of that, let's get to the meat of the issue. What is your interpretation of Exodus 21? [editline]12:57AM[/editline] And I was saying that statistically you have only a 2% chance of being gay, so to assume that you are in the absence of information would be stupid anyway.[/QUOTE] Read up.

What the hell is going on in here.

[QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18807547]Read up.[/QUOTE] Oh, so you don't care about anything other than not killing people, not stealing from people, and not blaspheming? So rape is AOK?

No. I respect them. but still independents ftw

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[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18807607]Oh, so you don't care about anything other than not killing people, not stealing from people, and not blaspheming? So rape is AOK?[/QUOTE] Like I said a second ago, Which you might picked up if you hadn't been digging for smearing material, That other Bible and religeous matters are personal. Rape is never ok mind you, and it is grotesque in ways that I cannot do justice to in explaining I ask you not treat me as meat to slander, and rather as a Individual.