Let's Bash Republicans! - General

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18804581]I think welfare should only cover those with disabilities or mental issues. The current system does not work. We are simply giving the money of the rich taxpayers to a bunch of poor people, who, in term, get drunk and blame the rich. Instead, we should practically abolish welfare, and force these people to enter programs teaching them how to work and sustain themselves.[/QUOTE] Forcing people into work and 'programs' doesn't sound very small government

[QUOTE=Topher;18807119]That was a figure of speech. They hold senior citizens in such low regard that they recieve no upkeep from the government and their families don't respect them because they can't work. You have to first understand that communism is all about pooled land and labor to "gain a productive advantage." the problem is that the land is owned first and foremost by the wealthy elite, and the lower classes recieve meager pay. Russia sure as hell showed us how that all turns out.[/QUOTE] Russia was never communist you tool. and no, it's not you ignorant fuck wit. [editline]02:06AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18807267]It is said that a man should not lay with another man as with a woman, Not that we should hate people that do. Religious texts are up to interpretation as is its values, and putting a twist on a sentence to make it do as you wish is rather foolish no? I still do not fully understand what it is you are getting at- It also seems you do not either.[/QUOTE] It also says to kill them...

[QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18807677]Like I said a second ago, Which you might picked up if you hadn't been digging for smearing material, That other Bible and religeous matters are personal. Rape is never ok mind you, and it is grotesque in ways that I cannot do justice to in explaining I ask you not treat me as meat to slander, and rather as a Individual.[/QUOTE] So you don't follow your religion's moral compass, you follow your own. Like everyone else. You want respect, join the police. [editline]01:07AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Trotsky;18807681]Russia was never communist you tool. and no, it's not you ignorant fuck wit. [editline]02:06AM[/editline] It also says to kill them...[/QUOTE] Well, see that's not in the ten commandments. So it's not canon. [editline]01:08AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Trotsky;18807681]Russia was never communist you tool. and no, it's not you ignorant fuck wit. [editline]02:06AM[/editline] It also says to kill them...[/QUOTE] Though they did make some awesome plans. [img]http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-06/palace-of-the-soviets.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Topher;18807119] That was a figure of speech. They hold senior citizens in such low regard that they recieve no upkeep from the government and their families don't respect them because they can't work. [/quote] you pulled this straight out of your ass. elderly, handicapped, students, and others that were not productive for society were given extensive subsides and welfare-esque checks. also lol, 'their families don't respect them because they can't work'. you are really dumb [QUOTE=Topher;18807119]You have to first understand that communism is all about pooled land and labor to "gain a productive advantage." [/quote] no it isn't, something else you pulled out of your ass. communism is about a system free of exploitation and where unbridled labor creates prosperity. you have no idea what you're talking about

I am a Republican. Don't like that? Well I don't care. Also.... Stop going black n' white with what you see on the news.

[QUOTE=Conscript;18807740]you pulled this straight out of your ass. elderly, handicapped, students, and others that were not productive for society were given extensive subsides and welfare-esque checks. also lol, 'their families don't respect them because they can't work'. you are really dumb no it isn't, something else you pulled out of your ass. communism is about a system free of exploitation and where unbridled labor creates prosperity. you have no idea what you're talking about[/QUOTE] Hey, how does that work when robots are added into the equation? I mean if all the hard labor is being done by unfeeling and untiring automatons, what happens then?

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[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;18807774]I am a Republican. Don't like that? Well I don't care. Also.... Stop going black n' white with what you see on the news.[/QUOTE] I've never seen anything but shit come out of your posts, so why should I not think you're stupid?>

[QUOTE=theguydude;18807651][media]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4029557427_939237519a_o.jpg[/media] Picture relevant: Media tagged for SIZE.[/QUOTE] There is so many factual problems in that picture [editline]02:13AM[/editline] [QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;18807774]I am a Republican. Don't like that? Well I don't care. Also.... Stop going black n' white with what you see on the news.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry for your loss of intelligence. uh what?

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18807785]I've never seen anything but shit come out of your posts, so why should I not think you're stupid?>[/QUOTE] Cause it's usually the simple man that knows what he's saying.

[QUOTE=theguydude;18807651][media]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4029557427_939237519a_o.jpg[/media] Picture relevant: Media tagged for SIZE.[/QUOTE] Pretty good chart overall. Unfortunately it ignores the fact that Conservatives in America want to limit the freedoms of others to marry, and want to force Christianity on everyone using the government.

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18807775]Hey, how does that work when robots are added into the equation? I mean if all the hard labor is being done by unfeeling and untiring automatons, what happens then?[/QUOTE] no system is labor is perpetual and always requires human input. but that does not mean robots taking over many jobs is impossible what is largely impossible though, is the introduction of mass robotic production in capitalism, as this investment wouldn't increase profits in the long run and it's cheaper to simply move to the third world and find cheap labor there. a socialist system has no interest in cheap labor or anything else in the interest of profits, and that therefore any progress in robotic production would be achieved much faster. on another note, robotic production is on the minds of many socialists today. it's creating an influx of a new strain of thought, technocratic socialism. it combines the modern thought of technocracy and the labor theories of marxism.

[QUOTE=theguydude;18807651][media]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2612/4029557427_939237519a_o.jpg[/media] Picture relevant: Media tagged for SIZE.[/QUOTE] Very good chart. Gotta love hawks and doves.

[editline]02:06AM[/editline] *It also says to kill them...* I am not sure what version of the Bible you have read, But mine says no such statement.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;18807828]Cause it's usually the simple man that knows what he's saying.[/QUOTE] No it's not. When has that ever been true?

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;18807870]Very good chart. Gotta love hawks and doves.[/QUOTE] Good apart from the bit where the right apparently don't interfere with social lives and the left do

It makes me really sad that people as ignorant as Topher have the right to vote.

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;18807902]It makes me really sad that people as ignorant as Topher have the right to vote.[/QUOTE] People deserve the vote no matter how stupid they are

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18807891]No it's not. When has that ever been true?[/QUOTE] When has it ever been true that the intelligent man has been exactly the good guy or has succeeded?

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;18807902]It makes me really sad that people as ignorant as Topher have the right to vote.[/QUOTE] actually 14 year olds dont yet have the ability to vote

I follow the moral compass of my Religion, As I have always done, whether or not that links with your assumption that I am as I have always been. The most common Bible I see is the King-James Version, of which I do not read. and one would be a Fool to read a book and think it literal word for word, The bible is a book of parables.

[QUOTE=Trotsky;18807681]Russia was never communist you tool. and no, it's not you ignorant fuck wit. [editline]02:06AM[/editline] It also says to kill them...[/QUOTE] Oh, and I bet you think Vladmir Ulyanov (later renamed himself Lenin) was a Russian tsar? Hell NO! He was originally a revolutionary who overthrew the tsars and gained political influence. Using key Marxist ideas, he put Russia under a communist system. His Red Army's symbol, the sickle and hammer, mean communal labor, or communism. Counterrevolutionaries tried several assassinations, but he brutally crushed them.

[QUOTE=James*;18807922]People deserve the vote no matter how stupid they are[/QUOTE] Without trying to sound racist here.... If we did pull IQ tests back into voting I'll assure you that their would be a lot less votes on both sides.

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;18807940]When has it ever been true that the intelligent man has been exactly the good guy or has succeeded?[/QUOTE] Uh, the entire history of medical science?

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;18807998]Without trying to sound racist here.... If we did pull IQ tests back into voting I'll assure you that their would be a lot less votes on both sides.[/QUOTE] Erm, okay? So what, dumb people deserve to have their views represented, and IQ tests mean little

[QUOTE=Warren Holzem;18774713]Don't forget that incestual rape is A-OK according to God! Check out the story of Lot and the whole Sodom & Gomorrah thing. Shortly after Lot leaves the cities and his wife turns into a pillar of salt, God has Lot's daughters get him drunk and rape him so that they can carry their father's seed! FUCK YEAH![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;18771467]because most of the things that actually happen in the bible are absolutely abhorrent to any modern morality.[/QUOTE] Yeah, by this logic, the people who write about the holocaust must condone it, right? Your attacks on the Bible make no sense. God sent Lot's daughters after him?.. No, they decided for themselves to do it. "Well if it's in the Bible, we must do that, right?" Where the hell did you get that misconception from? And about stoning, if you ever paid any attention to the New Testament (which you probably didn't), in John 8:7 Jesus said this in a situation where the Pharisees wished to stone an adulterer; "All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!" According to the same book that this is in, we have all sinned, so if you're running off the Bible anyway you SHOULDN'T stone anyone anyway.

[QUOTE=Lifeslicer;18807984]I follow the moral compass of my Religion, As I have always done, whether or not that links with your assumption that I am as I have always been. The most common Bible I see is the King-James Version, of which I do not read. and one would be a Fool to read a book and think it literal word for word, The bible is a book of parables.[/QUOTE] So you're saying you read a book, pick out the bits that you like, and then folllow them as you moral compass. And like I said, Exodus 21. That is not a fucking parable. That is a very clear order.

[QUOTE=Goberfish;18808039]And about stoning, if you ever paid any attention to the New Testament (which you probably didn't), in John 8:7 Jesus said this in a situation where the Pharisees wished to stone an adulterer; "All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!" According to the same book that this is in, we have all sinned, so if you're running off the Bible anyway you SHOULDN'T stone anyone anyway.[/QUOTE] UGH and then clearly if you're going to ignore parts of the old testament you need to ignore THE WHOLE FUCKING THING or else you're a raging fucking hypocrite. I can't stand all the Christian assholes who use Leviticus to hate and vote against gays, and then sit down to a nice big dinner of shrimp scampi at fucking Olive Garden. YOU DON'T GET TO FUCKING PICK AND CHOOSE. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_hyT7_Bx9o[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr. Mcguffin;18808019]Uh, the entire history of medical science?[/QUOTE] Without referring to that. Think political.

[QUOTE=Goberfish;18808039]Yeah, by this logic, the people who write about the holocaust must condone it, right? Your attacks on the Bible make no sense. God sent Lot's daughters after him?.. No, they decided for themselves to do it. "Well if it's in the Bible, we must do that, right?" Where the hell did you get that misconception from? And about stoning, if you ever paid any attention to the New Testament (which you probably didn't), in John 8:7 Jesus said this in a situation where the Pharisees wished to stone an adulterer; "All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!" According to the same book that this is in, we have all sinned, so if you're running off the Bible anyway you SHOULDN'T stone anyone anyway.[/QUOTE] Holy shit you put them in their place. Welcome to the family, brother.